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Steve Dulieu June 15th 04 10:03 PM

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"rickety" wrote in message
...
Steve Dulieu wrote:

snippitty-snip
Mind you, it was getting on for midnight and my brother
and I had just spent the weekend in Munich ensuring that the European
beer lake didn't get too deep, so I may not have been functioning a
peak efficiency...:-)


sounds like a good weekend!

From what I can remember, it was excellent!...;-)
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.



Helen Deborah Vecht June 15th 04 10:32 PM

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Roland Perry typed


Indeed, I'm acting just like any UK resident does when he runs out of
cash: I go and look for an ATM. Are you suggesting that all UK residents
should have a special reserve of cash, which they never spend, just in
case they encounter one of the risks you mention. They'd laugh you out
of town!


So now you can laugh at the £20 note I keep neatly folded & hidden
behind my Oyster Card...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Al June 15th 04 10:41 PM

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Roland Perry wrote:

In message , Al
writes
You are willing to spend not a penny of your cash ameliorating that risk
-- nor will apparently spend a moment of your time planning against the
day one of those risks hit.


Indeed, I'm acting just like any UK resident does when he runs out of
cash: I go and look for an ATM.


I'm afraid, Mr Perry, that you are projecting again. I venture that most
people that run out of cash look in their wallet before going to the ATM,
but perhaps you have evidence otherwise?

Are you suggesting that all UK residents
should have a special reserve of cash, which they never spend, just in
case they encounter one of the risks you mention. They'd laugh you out
of town!


Until recently, I had twenty quid in the office that I used on the frequent
occasions that the local ATMs weren't open to pay for a cab. I have another
twenty behind the biz cards in me wallet for the occasions I was out of the
office and needed a cab home. I have roughly ten quid in the car to pay for
parking. When I spent time in NY, I always flew out with a hundred quid in
the wallet for when I came back, and flew in with 'one hundred fifty' of
their funny money for when I flew out. Cost of the money was zero as I
already owned it. Cost of the time spent in each case is roughly 3 seconds.

Laugh me out of town? Perhaps you would. Just remember to wave hello on
those dark and stormy nights at Stansted as my taxi swooshes past while
you're still looking for a cashpoint!
--
Al

Al June 15th 04 10:56 PM

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Annabel Smyth wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 at 17:22:50, Al wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:

I have plenty of the currency the destination country, inside a bank!


If it pleases you to think that way, then I'm not one to rain on your
parade. However, as well as the 'plenty of currency inside a bank' you
imagine you have, you also have 'plenty of risk inside a bank': that it
will be closed; ceased trading; suspended during a money-laundering bust;
have ATM phonelines down etc etc etc.

Do you keep your money under the bed, then? I rather doubt that any of
the banks here - Barclays, Abbey, Halifax, Lloyds TSB, whatever - are
going to go bust any time soon.


Nor do I expect them to. Nor did any normal soul expect BCCI to go bust,
given that the BoE had licenced them.

You are willing to spend not a penny of your cash ameliorating that risk
-- nor will apparently spend a moment of your time planning against the
day one of those risks hit.

So where do you keep your money?


I have a contract with a bank whereby I lend them my money, and they promise
to return an equivalent amount 'on demand', including at cashpoints. That
ability is rather subject to a number of exceptions -- see the small print
for details. You may well find that 'ATM not being available' is one of
those exceptions.

IN a sock under your mattress? Don't
forget the OP means he has an account in THIS country, not in some less
developed country which doesn't have such strict banking laws as we do.


Then this is even worse for Mr Perry! There is absolutely no financial cost
whatsoever to taking the pounds he may need on the way back with him at the
time he flies out, much less have to convert foreign money to GBP when he
comes to fly back.

It is becoming increasingly clear that Roland cannot look after his own
affairs, and burdens others when life goes wrong for him. With luck, he'll
meet the challenge of his personality before he reaches 18.
--
Al

Roland Perry June 16th 04 07:10 AM

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In message , Al
writes
Then this is even worse for Mr Perry! There is absolutely no financial cost
whatsoever to taking the pounds he may need on the way back with him at the
time he flies out, much less have to convert foreign money to GBP when he
comes to fly back.


I'm out of the USA for months at a time. So there is some cost
associated with keeping lots of sterling with me. This was also the
first time I've used a taxi on arrival for several years - normally use
the train (but let's not get into the difficulty of buying a ticket
quickly at Gatwick station).
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry June 16th 04 07:10 AM

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In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes
So now you can laugh at the £20 note I keep neatly folded & hidden
behind my Oyster Card...


£20 is fine. My taxi was closer to £100.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry June 16th 04 07:24 AM

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In message , Richard J.
writes
What happened to the UK cash that you had when you left the UK last
time? Most people retain some for their return journey.


I had perhaps £15 in notes and £5 in loose change. Meanwhile, I'm also
lugging around similar amounts in Dollars and Euros [1]. Before I left
home (which is in the USA) I checked my foreign currency and discovered
small amounts for over 20 countries (half a dozen of which are now
obsolete because of the Euro).

It's understandable for people to think that the UK's the only country
that exists (although they then accuse Americans of the same fault) but
I travel all over the world and UK money is but one of the currencies
that I have to decide whether or not to keep a stash of pending the next
trip.

The reason I post my small grumbles is because it's not often that we
hear about the UK through a tourist's eyes (we just get questions ahead
of the trips, and one answer often given is to get cash from ATMs). A
friend travelled to the UK many years ago, and had taken the precaution
of getting pounds from his bank in the USA. Unfortunately these were
green paper pounds, and it was a year after they'd been phased out here!

[1] Just in case I need to go to Brussels, and find the ATMs there are
non-functional too...

--
Roland Perry

Al June 16th 04 09:16 AM

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Roland Perry wrote:

In message , Al
writes
Then this is even worse for Mr Perry! There is absolutely no financial
cost whatsoever to taking the pounds he may need on the way back with him
at the time he flies out, much less have to convert foreign money to GBP
when he comes to fly back.


I'm out of the USA for months at a time.


As was I. You'll find that currency from some months back is still usable.

So there is some cost
associated with keeping lots of sterling with me.


50 quid is lots? Perhaps you had better consider earning a living instead of
galavanting. Whatever: there is no additional cost to keeping 50 quid with
you beyond the cost imposed with keeping your passport and return ticket
with you. Except the three seconds it takes to put the dosh with the
passport, of course.

This was also the
first time I've used a taxi on arrival for several years - normally use
the train (but let's not get into the difficulty of buying a ticket
quickly at Gatwick station).


People in ULL will remember this story: I found myself in Harlem one night,
needing to get back. I had $107 with me: a $100, a $5 and two $1s. Taking a
cab back to Grand Central, with a big black bloke wider than he was tall, I
discovered a note on the back of his screen to the effect that cabbies do
not have to accept notes over $20. Now I could have done a runner, but I
generously gave him the $100 instead -- "Here, mate, put your kids through
college!"

You can do that, when you have an expense account :-D
--
Al

Adrian June 16th 04 09:44 AM

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Roland Perry ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

So now you can laugh at the £20 note I keep neatly folded & hidden
behind my Oyster Card...


£20 is fine. My taxi was closer to £100.


Don't all black cabs now take credit cards?

Ian Jelf June 16th 04 09:45 AM

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In message , Al
writes
Nor do I expect them to. Nor did any normal soul expect BCCI to go bust,
given that the BoE had licenced them.


I think you'll find that the bank of England had *not* licensed them as
a Bank and had refused to do so on at least one occasion. They were a
"Licensed Deposit Taker" (I think that's the right phrase). That in
itself would have sent alarm bells wringing with me, not sure about the
rest of you.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK
Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Al June 16th 04 10:25 AM

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Ian Jelf wrote:

In message , Al
writes
Nor do I expect them to. Nor did any normal soul expect BCCI to go bust,
given that the BoE had licenced them.


I think you'll find that the bank of England had *not* licensed them as
a Bank and had refused to do so on at least one occasion. They were a
"Licensed Deposit Taker" (I think that's the right phrase). That in
itself would have sent alarm bells wringing with me, not sure about the
rest of you.


You are, of course, right about the nature of BCCIs licence, but one wonders
whether the man in the street is worried about the difference when the B is
BCCI was for 'Bank', even though they weren't licenced as such.

Not that it matters: the BCCIs books were repeatedly certified as 'true and
fair' by Price Waterhouse having obtained assurance from the BoE that such
certification was appropriate (this according to testimony to the US
Congress.)

Why should such certification be any more meaningful to Lloyds' customers
than BCCI's? Why is the FDIC needed in the US if regulatory certification
is 100% good?

And, I put it to you that BCCI being an LDT would not have set alarm bells
ringing with you, because you did not then know that status. Nor do you
know now which banks are similarly licensed today, though I dare say it
won't take you long to find out.

This is all very long a convoluted but it comes down to my original
assertion: while it is unlikely that XYZ bank will go bust, it is not
impossible and therefore is a risk.
--
Al

Ian Jelf June 16th 04 11:12 AM

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In message , Al
writes
And, I put it to you that BCCI being an LDT would not have set alarm bells
ringing with you, because you did not then know that status.

Actually I did but that's neither here nor there.

Nor do you
know now which banks are similarly licensed today, though I dare say it
won't take you long to find out.

This is all very long a convoluted but it comes down to my original
assertion: while it is unlikely that XYZ bank will go bust, it is not
impossible and therefore is a risk.

But less of a risk presumably than storing money elsewhere. And
managing without some sort of bank account these days is pretty much
impossible I would imagine.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK
Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

K June 16th 04 11:12 AM

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:03:56 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , k
writes
Arriving back in the UK from the USA requires me to
find a cash dispenser.


Requires? I know both countries have some strange laws but I've never
heard of that one


If I took a taxi ride and didn't pay, isn't that still against the law?


Eh? You said....

Arriving back in the UK from the USA requires me to
find a cash dispenser.


I was questioning that. and still am.


Al June 16th 04 12:03 PM

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Ian Jelf wrote:

In message , Al
writes
And, I put it to you that BCCI being an LDT would not have set alarm bells
ringing with you, because you did not then know that status.


Actually I did but that's neither here nor there.


Fairy nuff. Were your alarm bells loud enough to motivate you into warning
people away from BCCI? There's a bit of a libel hazard there, I should
imagine!

Nor do you
know now which banks are similarly licensed today, though I dare say it
won't take you long to find out.

This is all very long a convoluted but it comes down to my original
assertion: while it is unlikely that XYZ bank will go bust, it is not
impossible and therefore is a risk.


But less of a risk presumably than storing money elsewhere.


Agreed, if one has confidence in the system supposed to aid in the
assessment of those risks, ie, signed-off accounts, regulator's licenses
and the like.

Of course, if the quantification of that risk can be 'end run' by simple
fraud, things get much more complicated. When the auditors and regulators
are complicit, then the stage is set for the kind of rancour that followed
BCCI's fall.

Presumably the BoE didn't act because our spooks were using BCCI to follow
the Bad Guys. Moral question: is it okay to prop-up a failed bank thus
guaranteeing deposit makers will be hurt harder later in order to follow
those bad guys?

And
managing without some sort of bank account these days is pretty much
impossible I would imagine.


Not in the black economy. Every now and again I come across reports of faces
who have never claimed welfare, don't have bank accounts and just don't
appear in official records. Everything is paid for out of pocket.

I understand that a/c payee cheques can be cashed at 90% of the face value
at third parties. (For those who don't know, cheques marked 'a/c payee'
cannot ordinarily be cashed at a counter, but must be presented to one's
own bank.) How this works, I don't know: do they open an account in the
name on the cheque? Present it at overseas banks that treat them as bearer
instruments? Tippex out the name? Do they have a perfectly legal
arrangement where they are outsourced the right to accept those cheques as
long as they comply with ID requirements?
--
Al

Ian Jelf June 16th 04 12:59 PM

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In message , Al
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:

In message , Al
writes
And, I put it to you that BCCI being an LDT would not have set alarm bells
ringing with you, because you did not then know that status.


Actually I did but that's neither here nor there.


Fairy nuff. Were your alarm bells loud enough to motivate you into warning
people away from BCCI?

No, as I didn't know anyone who deposited with them.

To be honest, though, the only reason I'd heard of them was because they
were cited in a lecture I attended as an example of a Licensed Deposit
Taker, rather than a bank. It just struck me as odd but only in
passing.

There's a bit of a libel hazard there, I should
imagine!

Really? Er, why? :-)

And
managing without some sort of bank account these days is pretty much
impossible I would imagine.


Not in the black economy. Every now and again I come across reports of faces
who have never claimed welfare, don't have bank accounts and just don't
appear in official records. Everything is paid for out of pocket.

I just wonder how people manage in such a way. What do they do when
they have to cash a cheque or pay for something by post? I suppose
they never do such things.......

I understand that a/c payee cheques can be cashed at 90% of the face value
at third parties.

I've seen shops offering such a service but don't know much about how
they work.

A bit of thread drift here.......
--
Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK
Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Roland Perry June 16th 04 01:49 PM

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In message , Al
writes

So there is some cost
associated with keeping lots of sterling with me.


50 quid is lots? Perhaps you had better consider earning a living instead of
galavanting. Whatever: there is no additional cost to keeping 50 quid with
you beyond the cost imposed with keeping your passport and return ticket
with you. Except the three seconds it takes to put the dosh with the
passport, of course.


Well, as I live in the USA it's not a "return" ticket. And perhaps you
missed the part where I said I was operating in many potential
currencies. On this occasion I'd have need closer to £100 than £50 for
the taxi.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry June 16th 04 01:50 PM

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In message , Adrian
writes
Don't all black cabs now take credit cards?


I've no idea. And my trip was way out of range for a black cab.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry June 16th 04 01:52 PM

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In message , k
writes
Arriving back in the UK from the USA requires me to
find a cash dispenser.


I was questioning that. and still am.


I was required to find a cash dispenser by my circumstances (as well you
know - going for dead horse flogger of the week, are we?)
--
Roland Perry

Al June 16th 04 02:36 PM

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Ian Jelf wrote:

In message , Al
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:

In message , Al
writes
And, I put it to you that BCCI being an LDT would not have set alarm
bells ringing with you, because you did not then know that status.

Actually I did but that's neither here nor there.


Fairy nuff. Were your alarm bells loud enough to motivate you into warning
people away from BCCI?


No, as I didn't know anyone who deposited with them.


tease Oh, so if it goes titsup.com without anyone you know being involved
that's okay is it?! /tease

To be honest, though, the only reason I'd heard of them was because they
were cited in a lecture I attended as an example of a Licensed Deposit
Taker, rather than a bank. It just struck me as odd but only in
passing.

There's a bit of a libel hazard there, I should
imagine!


Really? Er, why? :-)


One might accidentally note them to be an improper bank rather than a proper
LDT. 'Bank' in the common vernacular can arguably be construed to cover the
functions of an LDT, particularly when it's part of the name. Calling them
'improper' could therefore be argued as libellous.

And
managing without some sort of bank account these days is pretty much
impossible I would imagine.


Not in the black economy. Every now and again I come across reports of
faces who have never claimed welfare, don't have bank accounts and just
don't appear in official records. Everything is paid for out of pocket.


I just wonder how people manage in such a way. What do they do when
they have to cash a cheque or pay for something by post? I suppose
they never do such things.......


I cash cheques all the time, but only as a convenience to my custards who
don't have wads on them at the time; in every case, I've been asked
beforehand if I'd prefer cash. As for paying things by post, I honestly
can't remember having to do so more than once in the last five years, and
then only because it was less inconvenient than the alternative.

I understand that a/c payee cheques can be cashed at 90% of the face value
at third parties.

I've seen shops offering such a service but don't know much about how
they work.

A bit of thread drift here.......


Agreed. ulli and utl removed.
--
Al

Annabel Smyth June 16th 04 02:45 PM

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 at 23:41:12, Al wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:

In message , Al
writes
You are willing to spend not a penny of your cash ameliorating that risk
-- nor will apparently spend a moment of your time planning against the
day one of those risks hit.


Indeed, I'm acting just like any UK resident does when he runs out of
cash: I go and look for an ATM.


I'm afraid, Mr Perry, that you are projecting again. I venture that most
people that run out of cash look in their wallet before going to the ATM,
but perhaps you have evidence otherwise?

Well, duh! Obviously - as where else do you keep your cash???? And
when you have looked in your wallet and found that you have no cash,
what do you do? You go to the nearest ATM, of course!

Of all the foolish statements you have made on this thread, I think that
one is the most foolish.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 6 June 2004

Helen Deborah Vecht June 16th 04 02:54 PM

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Roland Perry typed


In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes
So now you can laugh at the £20 note I keep neatly folded & hidden
behind my Oyster Card...


£20 is fine. My taxi was closer to £100.


In which case I would have done as you did and asked the cabbie to stop
at a cashpoint. I would also have enquied as to whether some sort of
plastic was acceptable payment.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Al June 16th 04 03:02 PM

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Annabel Smyth wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 at 23:41:12, Al wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:

In message , Al
writes
You are willing to spend not a penny of your cash ameliorating that risk
-- nor will apparently spend a moment of your time planning against the
day one of those risks hit.

Indeed, I'm acting just like any UK resident does when he runs out of
cash: I go and look for an ATM.


I'm afraid, Mr Perry, that you are projecting again. I venture that most
people that run out of cash look in their wallet before going to the ATM,
but perhaps you have evidence otherwise?

Well, duh! Obviously - as where else do you keep your cash???? And
when you have looked in your wallet and found that you have no cash,
what do you do? You go to the nearest ATM, of course!


No, Annabel, *you* go to the nearest ATM; I use the twenty quid behind my
biz cards set aside precisely for that purpose. That way I continue to
enjoy my friends' company at the pub, while you are searching the high
street for a bank leaving others wondering why you always disappear just
before your round.

If dodging your round and looking for banks is how you wish to spend your
life, fine. Just don't imagine that's how the rest of us wish to spend
ours.

Of all the foolish statements you have made on this thread, I think that
one is the most foolish.


This from a woman who believes in taking international flights without
carrying a penny in cash!
--
Al

Roland Perry June 16th 04 06:37 PM

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In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes
In which case I would have done as you did and asked the cabbie to stop
at a cashpoint.


I did, but it was irritating, and the first one we found (at a motorway
services on the M25) charged me two quid for using it. By that stage the
jetlag and general frustration meant I didn't have the energy to go find
an eighth. (The first five were at Gatwick, the sixth was the free one
at the same services - also non-operational).
--
Roland Perry

Zobo Kolonie June 17th 04 07:29 AM

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"Al" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:

In message , Al
writes
Then this is even worse for Mr Perry! There is absolutely no financial
cost whatsoever to taking the pounds he may need on the way back with

him
at the time he flies out, much less have to convert foreign money to GBP
when he comes to fly back.


I'm out of the USA for months at a time.


As was I. You'll find that currency from some months back is still usable.

Not always... I turn my back for two years and what did the buggers do? Went
and changed the fifty pee piece didn't they just!
And me with about two hundred quids worth of 'em too :-)
--
ZK - juggling my eyeballs from one eye-socket to the other



Robin May June 19th 04 12:34 AM

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Al wrote the following in:


Roland Perry wrote:

In message , Al
writes
You are willing to spend not a penny of your cash ameliorating
that risk -- nor will apparently spend a moment of your time
planning against the day one of those risks hit.


Indeed, I'm acting just like any UK resident does when he runs
out of cash: I go and look for an ATM.


I'm afraid, Mr Perry, that you are projecting again. I venture
that most people that run out of cash look in their wallet before
going to the ATM, but perhaps you have evidence otherwise?


Err. Surely if someone had run out of cash then by definition they
wouldn't have any in their wallet.

--
message by Robin May-Silk and his close friend, Robert Kilroy-Kotton
"GIVE IN! IT'S TIME TO GO!" - The NHS offers a high standard of care.

http://robinmay.fotopic.net
Spelling lesson: buses only has ONE s.

Robin May June 19th 04 10:54 AM

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Roland Perry wrote the following in:
y.com

The reason I post my small grumbles is because it's not often that
we hear about the UK through a tourist's eyes (we just get
questions ahead of the trips, and one answer often given is to get
cash from ATMs). A friend travelled to the UK many years ago, and
had taken the precaution of getting pounds from his bank in the
USA. Unfortunately these were green paper pounds, and it was a
year after they'd been phased out here!


My girlfriend's cousin visited from America last year and I was pretty
surprised to find on the day he arrived and I tried to use his money to
buy a tube ticket for him that he'd been issued an old style £20 note.
Are banks and bureau de changes allowed to do this? And do they do it
in the UK as well as in America?

--
message by Robin May-Silk and his close friend, Robert Kilroy-Kotton
"GIVE IN! IT'S TIME TO GO!" - The NHS offers a high standard of care.

http://robinmay.fotopic.net
Spelling lesson: buses only has ONE s.

Paul Terry June 19th 04 11:14 AM

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In message , Robin May
writes

My girlfriend's cousin visited from America last year and I was pretty
surprised to find on the day he arrived and I tried to use his money to
buy a tube ticket for him that he'd been issued an old style £20 note.
Are banks and bureau de changes allowed to do this? And do they do it
in the UK as well as in America?


If you mean the notes with the picture of Michael Faraday (rather than
Elgar) they ceased to be legal tender on 28 Feb 2001 and so certainly
should not have been issued to anyone in 2003.

--
Paul Terry

Robin May June 19th 04 11:56 AM

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Paul Terry wrote the following in:


In message , Robin
May writes

My girlfriend's cousin visited from America last year and I was
pretty surprised to find on the day he arrived and I tried to use
his money to buy a tube ticket for him that he'd been issued an
old style £20 note. Are banks and bureau de changes allowed to do
this? And do they do it in the UK as well as in America?


If you mean the notes with the picture of Michael Faraday (rather
than Elgar) they ceased to be legal tender on 28 Feb 2001 and so
certainly should not have been issued to anyone in 2003.


I can't really remember much about what the note looked like, just that
it was the kind that is no longer legal tender and came before the
current type. So it probably was the one you were describing. As it
happens, it was very late 2003, so he was issued with this note nearly
three years after it had gone out of date.

People may be interested to note (pun intended) that it was accepted by
a tube ticket machine.

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Roland Perry June 19th 04 01:42 PM

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In message , Robin May
writes
Surely if someone had run out of cash then by definition they
wouldn't have any in their wallet.


What Al is suggesting is that people should have a "buffered wallet", so
that when they use up the "last" of their cash, then there's a note
hidden somewhere for emergencies. I can operate such a scheme (don't use
the last £20 note unless it's an emergency) without having to hide it
away. But it still means I have only £20 on me at times, and therefore
require an ATM when making a large cash purchase.
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Roland Perry June 20th 04 10:32 PM

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In message , k
writes

Hmm, I tried all five that I'm aware of at the north Terminal.


I think there are a few more than 5!


Perhaps you can suggest where they are. I've always thought there ought
to be at least one near the Pay machines for the car park, but I've only
ever found the two groups I described earlier.

there's outlets where you can get cashback, there's travel from the
airport you can pay for with credit or debit cards,


But not taxis you've booked in advance.


but there are other places?


Places for what?

You do seem to have a *lot* of trouble traveling around in this
country reading through your posts in UTL. Do you go out of your way
to find problems?


I'm a public transport supporter, but I also think it should deliver a
quality product, otherwise people will revert to private cars. When I
see obvious failings, I make a note.

(Latest problems: a lack of lifts at either Ealing Broadway or Acton
Town - getting to Heathrow by tube with heavy bags is a real hassle).
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry June 20th 04 11:02 PM

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In message , Robin May
writes

My girlfriend's cousin visited from America last year and I was pretty
surprised to find on the day he arrived and I tried to use his money to
buy a tube ticket for him that he'd been issued an old style £20 note.
Are banks and bureau de changes allowed to do this? And do they do it
in the UK as well as in America?


A UK-based bank or BdeC shouldn't issue outdated notes, but clearly
there are those overseas which don't seem to either know or care.
--
Roland Perry

Ian Jelf June 22nd 04 01:07 PM

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In message , Robin May
writes
My girlfriend's cousin visited from America last year and I was pretty
surprised to find on the day he arrived and I tried to use his money to
buy a tube ticket for him that he'd been issued an old style £20 note.
Are banks and bureau de changes allowed to do this? And do they do it
in the UK as well as in America?


I deal with a *lot* of overseas visitors to the UK and look after
(rather fewer) UK visitors to foreign parts.

The issuing of out of date notes by UK banks to people going overseas is
very rare (but has happened). The issuing of out of date UK notes by
US banks to Americans visit the UK is *very* common indeed.
--
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Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
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Ian Jelf June 22nd 04 01:08 PM

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In message , Paul Terry
writes
If you mean the notes with the picture of Michael Faraday (rather than
Elgar) they ceased to be legal tender on 28 Feb 2001 and so certainly
should not have been issued to anyone in 2003.


Never mind the Faraday ones.......

Further to my other post in this thread, it's not many months ago since
I had a US client here who'd just been given a *wad* of FLORENCE
NIGHTINGALE £20 notes by her bank at home!
--
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Dylan O'Donnell June 25th 04 11:08 AM

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Ian Jelf writes:
In message , Paul Terry
writes
If you mean the notes with the picture of Michael Faraday (rather than
Elgar) they ceased to be legal tender on 28 Feb 2001 and so certainly
should not have been issued to anyone in 2003.


Never mind the Faraday ones.......

Further to my other post in this thread, it's not many months ago since
I had a US client here who'd just been given a *wad* of FLORENCE
NIGHTINGALE £20 notes by her bank at home!


Shurely Bill Shakespeare? Florence was on the tenner.

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Ian Jelf June 28th 04 12:39 PM

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In message , Dylan O'Donnell
writes
Ian Jelf writes:
In message , Paul Terry
writes
If you mean the notes with the picture of Michael Faraday (rather than
Elgar) they ceased to be legal tender on 28 Feb 2001 and so certainly
should not have been issued to anyone in 2003.


Never mind the Faraday ones.......

Further to my other post in this thread, it's not many months ago since
I had a US client here who'd just been given a *wad* of FLORENCE
NIGHTINGALE £20 notes by her bank at home!


Shurely Bill Shakespeare? Florence was on the tenner.


D'oh! My error. But they were Florence Nightingale ones, ie £10s.
I found it incredible (and the client was not a little displeased).
--
Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK
Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for
London & the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Colin McKenzie July 3rd 04 02:48 PM

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Roland Perry wrote:

(Latest problems: a lack of lifts at either Ealing Broadway or Acton
Town - getting to Heathrow by tube with heavy bags is a real hassle).


Acton Town should get one as part of the present works.

Ealing Broadway is known to need rebuilding. It might happen as part
of Crossrail.

Colin McKenzie
--
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it leaves you free to believe the damned lies instead!



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