Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

The Newsagent where I normally buy my monthly bus pass has told me that
in future I must buy it on Oyster. I don't see any mention of this on
the TfL website. Does anyone know any more?

John Haines

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

I'm pretty sure that's the overall intention. Do you have a problem with
Oyster?


"John Haines" wrote in message
...
The Newsagent where I normally buy my monthly bus pass has told me that
in future I must buy it on Oyster. I don't see any mention of this on
the TfL website. Does anyone know any more?

John Haines

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"John Haines" wrote in message
...

The Newsagent where I normally buy my monthly bus pass has told me that
in future I must buy it on Oyster. I don't see any mention of this on
the TfL website. Does anyone know any more?

John Haines

Chris wrote:

I'm pretty sure that's the overall intention. Do you have a problem with
Oyster?

LOL... I can imagine Ken saying that to the TOCs before asking them if
they want to take it outside.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"Chris" wrote in message
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I'm pretty sure that's the overall intention. Do you have a problem with
Oyster?

like it (appearing to be) completely useless for the
twice a year traveller perhaps

tim

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"tim" wrote the following in:



"Chris" wrote in message
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I'm pretty sure that's the overall intention. Do you have a
problem with Oyster?

like it (appearing to be) completely useless for the
twice a year traveller perhaps

Oh well, obviously TfL didn't design oyster around people who only
travel twice a year. I can't say I blame them!

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"Robin May" wrote in message
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"tim" wrote the following in:



"Chris" wrote in message
...
I'm pretty sure that's the overall intention. Do you have a
problem with Oyster?

like it (appearing to be) completely useless for the
twice a year traveller perhaps

Oh well, obviously TfL didn't design oyster around people who only
travel twice a year. I can't say I blame them!

But you can't completely disenfranchise them. Especially in a
town with a large number of tourists, you have to design a system
that works for them as well.

tim

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"tim" wrote the following in:


But you can't completely disenfranchise them. Especially in a
town with a large number of tourists, you have to design a system
that works for them as well.

We have that. One day travelcards, one day bus passes, single tickets,
carnet. It's not as if they have no method of using TfL services!

--
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Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"Robin May" wrote in message
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"tim" wrote the following in:


But you can't completely disenfranchise them. Especially in a
town with a large number of tourists, you have to design a system
that works for them as well.

We have that. One day travelcards, one day bus passes, single tickets,
carnet. It's not as if they have no method of using TfL services!

But if you look at the title of the thread and go back to the
orignal question you see that it asks if ODBPs are only to
be issued via Oyster in future and it is this ticket type that I
am commenting upon.

Tim

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"tim" wrote the following in:



"Robin May" wrote in message
.4...
"tim" wrote the following
in:

But you can't completely disenfranchise them. Especially in a
town with a large number of tourists, you have to design a
system that works for them as well.

We have that. One day travelcards, one day bus passes, single
tickets, carnet. It's not as if they have no method of using TfL
services!

But if you look at the title of the thread and go back to the
orignal question you see that it asks if ODBPs are only to
be issued via Oyster in future and it is this ticket type that I
am commenting upon.

No, it asks if monthly bus passes are only to be issued via oyster. I
don't see how this in any way inconveniences the traveller. One day bus
passes are still available on paper. In fact, I understand that they
are *only* available on paper.

--
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"GIVE IN! IT'S TIME TO GO!" - The NHS offers a high standard of care.

Would you take the office of relief?:
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Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"tim" wrote...


But if you look at the title of the thread and go back to the
orignal question you see that it asks if ODBPs are only to
be issued via Oyster in future

Actually, no. It asks if *monthly* bus passes are to be issued by Oyster in
future. No mention of ODBPs at all.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Haines"
Newsgroups: uk.transport.london
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:46 PM
Subject: Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?


The Newsagent where I normally buy my monthly bus pass has told me that
in future I must buy it on Oyster. I don't see any mention of this on
the TfL website. Does anyone know any more?

John Haines

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:36:20 +0200, "tim"
wrote:


"Robin May" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"tim" wrote the following in:


But you can't completely disenfranchise them. Especially in a
town with a large number of tourists, you have to design a system
that works for them as well.

We have that. One day travelcards, one day bus passes, single tickets,
carnet. It's not as if they have no method of using TfL services!

But if you look at the title of the thread and go back to the
orignal question you see that it asks if ODBPs are only to
be issued via Oyster in future and it is this ticket type that I
am commenting upon.

Oyster is designed to take any type of ticket. However there was never
any intention to remove the paper & magnetic stripe tickets. It is even
less likely now given that the roadside machines for cashless services /
zone sell paper unencoded one day bus passes. What is more likely is
that there will be moves to switch people into Oyster cards for long
period tickets where the ability to hotlist the card if it is lost is a
definite advantage or else via product features like discounted fares
and capping.

On a related note I have an Octopus card for Hong Kong. I only ever
travel there as a tourist and there was a three year break between my
last two trips. All I did was revalidate the card at the airport, the
cash balance was still correct and I loaded some value and off I went.
There is no reason why a tourist visiting London could not do the same -
many of them happily buy weekly travelcards and fork out for the
travelcard photo (where it is needed).
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Are paper Bus Passes being abolished?
 

"Solar Penguin" wrote in
message ...

"tim" wrote...


But if you look at the title of the thread and go back to the
orignal question you see that it asks if ODBPs are only to
be issued via Oyster in future

Actually, no. It asks if *monthly* bus passes are to be issued by Oyster
in
future. No mention of ODBPs at all.

Sorry my mistake.

I though monthy tickets were printed on card?
and immediatley thought paper = one day pass
and didn't read the rest.

tim