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Matthew July 11th 04 01:48 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...

Helen Deborah Vecht July 11th 04 11:56 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
Matthew typed


The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


So that people with Oyster PrePay, entering DLR at Bank, don't end up
with an overpriced 'unresolved journey'?

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Ian Tindale July 11th 04 02:42 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

Matthew typed


The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


So that people with Oyster PrePay, entering DLR at Bank, don't end up
with an overpriced 'unresolved journey'?


How can you get that far without already having passed through barriers?
--
Ian Tindale

James Farrar July 11th 04 03:06 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
Ian Tindale wrote:

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

Matthew typed


The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


So that people with Oyster PrePay, entering DLR at Bank, don't end up
with an overpriced 'unresolved journey'?


How can you get that far without already having passed through barriers?


Or even having walked past a yellow dot.

If the Oyster reader is there, that seems to me to imply that you can
get that far from the street without passing a target. If so, you must
be able to exit from there to the street without passing one, and IMO
that's too deep to be reasonable.

--
James Farrar |
London, SE13 |


Helen Deborah Vecht July 11th 04 03:09 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
Ian Tindale typed


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:


Matthew typed


The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


So that people with Oyster PrePay, entering DLR at Bank, don't end up
with an overpriced 'unresolved journey'?


How can you get that far without already having passed through barriers?


Maybe they enter at Bank, maybe they got on at Burnt Oak, where the
ticket office is seldom open and the barriers seldom closed...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

DJ July 11th 04 03:27 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
"Matthew" wrote in message
...
The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


Is it possible to get from street level to the DLR platforms without passing
a barrier by using the lift?

DJ.



Spyke July 11th 04 09:56 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
In message , DJ
writes
"Matthew" wrote in message
.. .
The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


Is it possible to get from street level to the DLR platforms without passing
a barrier by using the lift?

Don't the stairs and travelator from the W&C platforms emerge in the
ticket hall on the street side of the barriers? (I could be wrong, I
hardly ever use them).
Given that there are now no barriers in the foot-tunnel between the W&C
platforms and the LUL part of the station (and even when there were,
they were rarely in use) it would be possible to get to the DLR that
way.
--
Spyke
Address is valid, but messages are treated as junk. The opinions I express do
not necessarily reflect those of the educational institution from which I post.

Robin Mayes July 11th 04 11:00 PM

Oyster at Bank
 

"DJ" wrote in message
...
"Matthew" wrote in message
...
The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


Is it possible to get from street level to the DLR platforms without

passing
a barrier by using the lift?


The mobility impaired lift in King William Street does.



DJ July 11th 04 11:06 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
...

Is it possible to get from street level to the DLR platforms without

passing
a barrier by using the lift?


The mobility impaired lift in King William Street does.


What, does avoid the barriers? If so there's the answer.

DJ.



Matthew July 11th 04 11:42 PM

Oyster at Bank
 

Don't the stairs and travelator from the W&C platforms emerge in the
ticket hall on the street side of the barriers? (I could be wrong, I
hardly ever use them).
Given that there are now no barriers in the foot-tunnel between the W&C
platforms and the LUL part of the station (and even when there were,
they were rarely in use) it would be possible to get to the DLR that
way.


The W & C has a gate line at the foot of the travelator, and if you're
using prepay you should use a validator at Waterloo, so that isn't the
answer....

K July 12th 04 11:59 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:09:19 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:



How can you get that far without already having passed through barriers?


Maybe they enter at Bank, maybe they got on at Burnt Oak, where the
ticket office is seldom open and the barriers seldom closed...


But surely they should have "touched in" even if the gates are open.

How can they legitimately be at Bank without having touched in
somewhere?

DJ July 12th 04 12:33 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
"k" wrote in message
...

How can you get that far without already having passed through

barriers?

Maybe they enter at Bank, maybe they got on at Burnt Oak, where the
ticket office is seldom open and the barriers seldom closed...


But surely they should have "touched in" even if the gates are open.

How can they legitimately be at Bank without having touched in
somewhere?


As Robin says, by using the mobility-impaired lift down to the DLR
platforms.

DJ.



Mike Bristow July 12th 04 12:43 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
In article ,
k wrote:
How can they legitimately be at Bank without having touched in
somewhere?


Easily: Leytonstone High Road to Blackhorse Road (via the GOBLIN)
- Kings Cross (Victoria) - Bank (Northern).

There are no validators at Leytonstone High Road and I think the
interchange between GOBLIN and Victoria is behind the gateline. If
not, then there are other places where one can change from NR to
LuL behind the gate.

--
You dont have to be illiterate to use the Internet, but it help's.


K July 12th 04 01:18 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:43:08 +0000 (UTC), Mike Bristow
wrote:


There are no validators at Leytonstone High Road and I think the
interchange between GOBLIN and Victoria is behind the gateline. If
not, then there are other places where one can change from NR to
LuL behind the gate.


So why have a specific validator at Bank? And why did it take so long
to get them working?

Annabel Smyth July 12th 04 01:24 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 at 12:43:08, Mike Bristow wrote:

There are no validators at Leytonstone High Road and I think the
interchange between GOBLIN and Victoria is behind the gateline. If
not, then there are other places where one can change from NR to
LuL behind the gate.

Canning Town springs to mind - and one can change on to the DLR there,
too, behind the gate.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 6 June 2004

Robin May July 12th 04 01:43 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
Annabel Smyth wrote the following in:


On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 at 12:43:08, Mike Bristow
wrote:

There are no validators at Leytonstone High Road and I think the
interchange between GOBLIN and Victoria is behind the gateline.
If not, then there are other places where one can change from NR
to LuL behind the gate.

Canning Town springs to mind - and one can change on to the DLR
there, too, behind the gate.


I think that Canning Town has validators on the platform.

--
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"GIVE IN! IT'S TIME TO GO!" - The NHS offers a high standard of care.

Would you take the office of relief?:
http://robinmay.fotopic.net/p4600200.html

Annabel Smyth July 12th 04 02:08 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 at 13:43:46, Robin May
wrote:

Annabel Smyth wrote the following in:


On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 at 12:43:08, Mike Bristow
wrote:

There are no validators at Leytonstone High Road and I think the
interchange between GOBLIN and Victoria is behind the gateline.
If not, then there are other places where one can change from NR
to LuL behind the gate.

Canning Town springs to mind - and one can change on to the DLR
there, too, behind the gate.


I think that Canning Town has validators on the platform.

I don't *recall* seeing any - but perhaps I didn't look thoroughly?
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 6 June 2004

DJ July 12th 04 02:10 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
"k" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:43:08 +0000 (UTC), Mike Bristow
wrote:


There are no validators at Leytonstone High Road and I think the
interchange between GOBLIN and Victoria is behind the gateline. If
not, then there are other places where one can change from NR to
LuL behind the gate.


So why have a specific validator at Bank? And why did it take so long
to get them working?


The validators are there for people who use the mobility impaired lift! The
lift goes straight from street level to the platforms, without the
passengers going through any gatelines, therefore those using the lift and
starting/ending their journey at Bank have to touch in at platform level!

DJ.



Mike Bristow July 12th 04 04:21 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
In article ,
Annabel Smyth wrote:
I don't *recall* seeing any - but perhaps I didn't look thoroughly?


I was going to use Stratford in my example (as you can interchange
between NR and central without going through the gateline, and it's
a more realistic route), but I think there are validators near the
DLR platform.

They can be tricky to spot, I admit.

--
You dont have to be illiterate to use the Internet, but it help's.


Paul Corfield July 12th 04 04:51 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:43:08 +0000 (UTC), Mike Bristow
wrote:

In article ,
k wrote:
How can they legitimately be at Bank without having touched in
somewhere?


Easily: Leytonstone High Road to Blackhorse Road (via the GOBLIN)
- Kings Cross (Victoria) - Bank (Northern).

There are no validators at Leytonstone High Road and I think the
interchange between GOBLIN and Victoria is behind the gateline. If
not, then there are other places where one can change from NR to
LuL behind the gate.


And there are two validators as you enter the ticket hall from the
footbridge at Blackhorse Road. Anyway Pre-Pay isn't valid on the GOBLIN
line.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Mike Bristow July 13th 04 06:39 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
In article ,
Paul Corfield wrote:
And there are two validators as you enter the ticket hall from the
footbridge at Blackhorse Road.


Rats!

Anyway Pre-Pay isn't valid on the GOBLIN
line.


So our imaginary customer has a zone 2-4 travelcard on their oyster.

--
You dont have to be illiterate to use the Internet, but it help's.


James Farrar July 13th 04 09:16 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
Paul Corfield wrote:

Anyway Pre-Pay isn't valid on the GOBLIN line.


The Gospel Oak to Barking LINe line? :)

--
James Farrar |
London, SE13 |


Annabel Smyth July 13th 04 10:58 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 at 06:39:17, Mike Bristow wrote:

In article ,
Paul Corfield wrote:
And there are two validators as you enter the ticket hall from the
footbridge at Blackhorse Road.


Rats!

Anyway Pre-Pay isn't valid on the GOBLIN
line.


So our imaginary customer has a zone 2-4 travelcard on their oyster.

Then they only need to touch in/out to open the gates, not for any other
reason. When I had a Travelcard on mine, I must have done some very
weird journeys.....
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 6 June 2004

K July 13th 04 11:28 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:10:01 GMT, "DJ"
wrote:



The validators are there for people who use the mobility impaired lift! The
lift goes straight from street level to the platforms, without the
passengers going through any gatelines, therefore those using the lift and
starting/ending their journey at Bank have to touch in at platform level!


Then how about their return journeys? They are "entry-only"
validators.

And why weren't they placed by the lifts if that is what they are
for?

K July 13th 04 11:30 AM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:16:29 +0100, James Farrar
wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

Anyway Pre-Pay isn't valid on the GOBLIN line.


The Gospel Oak to Barking LINe line? :)


Yes, and make sure you use the correct PIN number if you use an ATM
machine :-)


Howard Fisher July 15th 04 05:20 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:
Matthew typed


The Oyster card validatoris on the DLR platforms at Bank are set to
"enter" only, and the posters (not just the stickers) say that only
pre-pay holders need to use them, and only when starting their DLR
journey. I still can't really see why they are necessary...


So that people with Oyster PrePay, entering DLR at Bank, don't end up
with an overpriced 'unresolved journey'?

Or as I wanted to do, but couldn't, on Tuesday at 09:31, convert from
pre-pay Oyster to off-peak Travelcard when changing at Bank from
Northern line to DLR. They wouldn't let me touch out.

(And yes, I could have gone to the exit, gone out on Oyster and come
back in on Travelcard, but life's too short!)
--
Howard

ITMA July 17th 04 07:33 PM

Oyster at Bank
 
Funny goings on with Oyster at bank remind me of a long-term glitch with one
day travelcards and return tickets with the barriers at Bank - I used to
pass through regularly and with those tickets at Bank for some reason the
barrier would open but then rapidly shut on you again, leaving you to
wrestle your way through. Only ever found this at Bank. Emails to LT / tfl
ignored. Anyone know if its still a problem?




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