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The Mayor of London has formally announced that the stations at both
Wapping and Rotherhithe that have been classed as being 'under review'
will now remain open when phase one of the project is delivered in June
2010.

It has also been confirmed that responsibility for delivering this
project will be transferred from the Strategic Rail Authority to
Transport for London in the autumn.

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if they ever extend it to Highgate highlevel via finsbury park and the
parklandwalk then one island platform and standing in the rain without a
roof ,will do me...... but then again at highgate highlevel they is already
a platform and 1930 waiting room biult for the extention and hardly used

That'll never happen. Aside from the fact that they'd have to build a whole
new flyover at finsbury park can you imagine the Nimby factor in Crouch End
when all the yoghurt knitting right-ons in the area find out that their
tranquil woodland path nearby is going to be converted back into a railway.
Also the logical conclusion would be to terminate the line in the middle
platforms at east finchley but then the HSE would start to wet themselves
about having tube and mainline trains in the same vacinity so that probably
wouldn't be allowed (much safer to allow people to travel by road to Highgate
obviously).

B2003

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"Boltar" wrote in message
om...
then the HSE would start to wet themselves
about having tube and mainline trains in the same vacinity so that
probably
wouldn't be allowed

Why not? The Croydon Tramlink operates adjacent to the main line at Elmers
End (and perhaps elsewhere?). I know Tramlink's not the tube, but the
principle is the same

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Boltar wrote:
Also the logical conclusion would be to terminate the line in the middle
platforms at east finchley but then the HSE would start to wet themselves
about having tube and mainline trains in the same vacinity so that probably
wouldn't be allowed (much safer to allow people to travel by road to Highgate
obviously).

Out of curiosity, what would be the problem for the HSE here? Is it that
the different trains are sharing adjacent platforms? What about the
likes of Wimbledon where this already happens? What would be the
specific safety concerns?

Thanks, Dan

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On 19 Aug 2004, Boltar wrote:

if they ever extend it to Highgate highlevel via finsbury park and the
parklandwalk then one island platform and standing in the rain without a
roof ,will do me...... but then again at highgate highlevel they is already
a platform and 1930 waiting room biult for the extention and hardly used

That'll never happen. Aside from the fact that they'd have to build a
whole new flyover at finsbury park can you imagine the Nimby factor in
Crouch End when all the yoghurt knitting right-ons in the area find out
that their tranquil woodland path nearby is going to be converted back
into a railway.

Sadly, true.

Although:

http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/Lawn.htm

Solved!

Also the logical conclusion would be to terminate the line in the middle
platforms at east finchley but then the HSE would start to wet
themselves about having tube and mainline trains in the same vacinity so
that probably wouldn't be allowed

Lucky nobody's told them about Richmond, Harrow & Wealdstone or
Harrow-on-the-Hill, then.

tom

--
He's taking towel fandom to a whole other bad level. -- applez, of coalescent

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Dan Gravell wrote in message ...
Boltar wrote:
Also the logical conclusion would be to terminate the line in the middle
platforms at east finchley but then the HSE would start to wet themselves
about having tube and mainline trains in the same vacinity so that probably
wouldn't be allowed (much safer to allow people to travel by road to Highgate
obviously).

Out of curiosity, what would be the problem for the HSE here? Is it that
the different trains are sharing adjacent platforms? What about the
likes of Wimbledon where this already happens? What would be the
specific safety concerns?

Southbound trains occasionally terminate in the centre platforms at east
finchley. These are the same platforms that the ELL would run into if it was
extended there. PLus these tracks also lead to the northern lines highgate
depot.

B2003

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Tom Anderson wrote in message ...

Sadly, true.

Although:

http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/Lawn.htm

Hmm , I'm not sure how well dry grass in the summer would get on with
sparks off the 3rd and 4th rails!

Lucky nobody's told them about Richmond, Harrow & Wealdstone or
Harrow-on-the-Hill, then.

Those services are historical and we're set up long before the current
generation of bed wetters got into power. They'd never be allowed to be
set up today.

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote in message
...

Sadly, true.

Although:

http://www.garden.force9.co.uk/Lawn.htm

Hmm , I'm not sure how well dry grass in the summer would get on
with sparks off the 3rd and 4th rails!

Lucky nobody's told them about Richmond, Harrow & Wealdstone or
Harrow-on-the-Hill, then.

Those services are historical and we're set up long before the
current generation of bed wetters got into power. They'd never
be allowed to be set up today.

Unprotected 3rd rail would not be allowed today on an entirely new
railway, but that has nothing to do with mixing tube and mainline, both
of which use the same technology at Richmond, except that LU is 4-rail
rather than 3-rail.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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Boltar wrote:
Dan Gravell wrote in message
...
Boltar wrote:
Also the logical conclusion would be to terminate the line in the
middle
platforms at east finchley but then the HSE would start to wet
themselves
about having tube and mainline trains in the same vacinity so that
probably
wouldn't be allowed (much safer to allow people to travel by road
to Highgate
obviously).

Out of curiosity, what would be the problem for the HSE here? Is it
that
the different trains are sharing adjacent platforms? What about the
likes of Wimbledon where this already happens? What would be the
specific safety concerns?

Southbound trains occasionally terminate in the centre platforms at
east
finchley. These are the same platforms that the ELL would run into if
it was
extended there. PLus these tracks also lead to the northern lines
highgate
depot.


So what? Tube stock and mainline trains share the same metals between Queens
Park and Harrow don't they?

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"Richard J." wrote in message ...

Unprotected 3rd rail would not be allowed today on an entirely new
railway, but that has nothing to do with mixing tube and mainline, both
of which use the same technology at Richmond, except that LU is 4-rail
rather than 3-rail.

I never said that it did. Its to do with what happens to the different
types of trains if they collide with each other. Tube trains usually come
off worse because the buffer beam of the mainline train hits the tube train
on its body rather than its buffers. Not sure what the rules are for full
size tube trains such as A,C and D stock sharing mainline track however.
Anyone know?

B2003