Roland Perry wrote in message o.uk...
In message , at
09:24:19 on Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Boltar remarked:
The grant is now £700 and the Prius II drives very, very well. (I'm talking
as someone who is thinking of getting one and not someone who's already
stuck with it!).

Very enviromentally sound

In the same sense that a coke-float made with Diet Coke (but normal
ice-cream) is dietetically sound?

No not really. Theres no wool over the eyes with it as far as I can see. It
gets a genuine 50mpg in town traffic. Whats wrong with that? Plus it uses
a petrol engine rather than some PM10 belching diesel so it doesn't have to
poison the lungs of everyone just to get a low C02 figure either.

B2003

"JB" wrote in message
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"Robin Cox" wrote in message
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"Agustin" wrote in message
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Also, I believe that City of Westminster give concessions on parking
charges
to such vehicles.


Robin



Wow, I didn't know that. Another good reason to consider one.


http://www.westminster.gov.uk/roadsa...icvehicles.cfm

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The City of Westminster is committed to a cleaner environment and therefore
allows electric vehicles to park free of charge during controlled hours on Meter
and Pay & Display bays throughout the City.
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Robin

Wow, I didn't know that. Another good reason to consider one.



http://www.westminster.gov.uk/roadsa...icvehicles.cfm

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The City of Westminster is committed to a cleaner environment and
therefore
allows electric vehicles to park free of charge during controlled hours on
Meter
and Pay & Display bays throughout the City.
=====



Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see anything
straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I wonder? TfL
doesn't think so (although they discount both).

JB wrote:

Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see
anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I
wonder?

No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance.

You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel although
some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits.

"Stimpy" wrote in message
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JB wrote:

Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see
anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I
wonder?

No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance.

You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel
although
some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits.




There are undoubtedly cars that have better CO2 or fuel figures but they are
usually a) small cramp cars b) tiny slow engines with terrible performance
or more usually c) a+b

Besides which I reckon Diesel will be the next big crack down since 4* is
gone.

"Stimpy" wrote in message ...
JB wrote:

Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see
anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I
wonder?

No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance.

You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel although
some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits.

Even the most efficient diesel does zero mpg while idling in a stationary
traffic jam. The prius solves that issue in a nice way. Yes you could keep
starting and stopping the engine of a normal car everytime you have to move
but it won't be long before you kill the starter motor and the engine gets
clogged up with gunk from constantly restarting. With hybrid cars the engine
is only run in traffic when the battery is too low to adequately move the car.

B2003

Boltar wrote:
"Stimpy" wrote in message
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JB wrote:

Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see
anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I
wonder?

No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance.

You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel
although
some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits.

Even the most efficient diesel does zero mpg while idling in a
stationary
traffic jam. The prius solves that issue in a nice way. Yes you could
keep
starting and stopping the engine of a normal car everytime you have
to move
but it won't be long before you kill the starter motor and the engine
gets
clogged up with gunk from constantly restarting. With hybrid cars the
engine
is only run in traffic when the battery is too low to adequately move
the car.

For comparison, official figures are

Prius (all 1.5 models) - 65.7 mpg, 104 CO2, £17495
Polo (1.4 TDI) - 62.8 mpg, 120 CO2, £11035

There's a difference but not THAT great a difference, especially when you
factor in the purchase price

"Stimpy" wrote in message ...
For comparison, official figures are

Prius (all 1.5 models) - 65.7 mpg, 104 CO2, £17495
Polo (1.4 TDI) - 62.8 mpg, 120 CO2, £11035

There's a difference but not THAT great a difference, especially when you
factor in the purchase price

Yes but don't forget the prius is a much bigger car than a polo. If it
were the same size as a polo you'd probably find the prius figures were even
better.

B2003

Boltar wrote:
"Stimpy" wrote in message
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For comparison, official figures are

Prius (all 1.5 models) - 65.7 mpg, 104 CO2, £17495
Polo (1.4 TDI) - 62.8 mpg, 120 CO2, £11035

There's a difference but not THAT great a difference, especially
when you factor in the purchase price

Yes but don't forget the prius is a much bigger car than a polo. If it
were the same size as a polo you'd probably find the prius figures
were even
better.

Not THAT much bigger though. Here's the best Golf figures by comparison

Prius (all 1.5 models) - 65.7 mpg, 104 CO2, £17495
Polo (1.4 TDI) - 62.8 mpg, 120 CO2, £11035
Golf (1.9 TDI) - 53.3 mpg, 143 CO2, £15680

"Stimpy" wrote the following in:


Boltar wrote:

Yes but don't forget the prius is a much bigger car than a polo.
If it were the same size as a polo you'd probably find the prius
figures were even
better.

Not THAT much bigger though. Here's the best Golf figures by
comparison

Prius (all 1.5 models) - 65.7 mpg, 104 CO2, £17495
Polo (1.4 TDI) - 62.8 mpg, 120 CO2, £11035
Golf (1.9 TDI) - 53.3 mpg, 143 CO2, £15680

Are those the combined figures? If so, what are the urban figures like?

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