"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
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into our lane. We *had* to go slightly into the bus lane, as there was
no other option left open - I wonder whether the reason will show if the
cameras we saw were working, or whether we'll get £100 fine because we
were in the bus lane....

The bus forced its way onto your side of the road? It's the busses fault
then, I trust you took it's number an made a formal complaint.

However thats no excuse for you to enter a bus lane unless and emergency -
you should have stopped as if the bus lane was a pavement.

Annabel Smyth wrote:
We *had* to go slightly into the bus lane, as there was
no other option left open

....except waiting for the bus to pass, which is what you should have done.

d.

"Chris Davies" wrote in message
news
drivers, and get out of their way as soon as it's safe to do so. Don't
shout at them, it won't help you and it isn't fair to them. They're trying
to make a living.

Good for them, if they insist of breaking the law while doing that then they
should get a job where they cant endanger others.

Now as for the t**ts in BMWs and the kids driving souped up Fraud Festers,
sometimes you need to shout at them, cause it's important to make them pay
attention. But that's another thing entirely.
Take it easy,

What's the difference between a bus driver and a car driver, except a bus
driver should know better?

"redtube" wrote in message
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As for OYBIKE.


OYBike have at least two operators, and when I was riding back to work,
I
head someone exclaim "there's another one" - so I'm not the only
customer
they've had,

I work at White City Station and I've seen these monstrosity looking bikes
totally appearing to be unused.
I assume its YOU that have rented one of the four that were clipped up
there
outside the Station? Three seems to remain or is the fourth now back in
position?

I wouldnt be seen dead riding one them unless it was for charity. Why cant
they provide decent looking bikes?
The whole thing is a joke. And how much are they per hour or whatever the
telephone call is? Is it Premium Rate? Tell us please.

Yeah, they look pretty goofy, but you have to try them out at least once

Yeah, it was me that took the bike. Put it back on the other stand (there's
two at white city).

The phone call is an 0845 number, takes about a minute at check in and check
out. Add the 30p/80p to rent and it mounts up.

I dont think they'll get enough customers to pay for the person on the
phone, let alone the maintenece and overheads.

--
Everything above is the personal opinion of the author, and nothing to do
with where he works and all that lovely disclaimery stuff.
Posted in his lunch hour too.

Paul Weaver wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 2 Sep 2004:

"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
into our lane. We *had* to go slightly into the bus lane, as there was
no other option left open - I wonder whether the reason will show if the
cameras we saw were working, or whether we'll get £100 fine because we
were in the bus lane....

The bus forced its way onto your side of the road? It's the busses fault
then, I trust you took it's number an made a formal complaint.

No time, it was all too fast....

However thats no excuse for you to enter a bus lane unless and emergency -
you should have stopped as if the bus lane was a pavement.

We did, more or less - but it was one of those situations where, if we
had stopped, someone would have had to reverse - and in that traffic, at
that time of day? I don't think so!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/

"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
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"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
into our lane. We *had* to go slightly into the bus lane, as there was
no other option left open - I wonder whether the reason will show if the
cameras we saw were working, or whether we'll get £100 fine because we
were in the bus lane....

The bus forced its way onto your side of the road? It's the busses fault
then, I trust you took it's number an made a formal complaint.

Get a life! Re-read the original posting below and justify your above
interpretation.

Unfortunately, on the other side of the
road, there is no bus lane, and a parked car diverted an oncoming bus
into our lane.

I think you should have a spell as a bus driver and experience the stresses
and strains of trying to maintain a public service to a timetable in an
environment that conspires to prevent it from happening. If was the person
receiving your trivial letter(s) of complaint I can guarantee my litter bin
would give it the attention it deserved.

Chris Davies wrote:
snip
A bike and rider that weighs 230 lbs (heavy for a bike and rider) can turn
or stop a lot more easily than a lorry that weighs 15000 lbs (a very
small, light lorry). If you were driving one and a cyclist ran into the
back of it you probably wouldn't notice if you couldn't see them in your
mirror. You have to watch out for lorries, buses and other working
drivers, and get out of their way as soon as it's safe to do so. Don't
shout at them, it won't help you and it isn't fair to them. They're trying
to make a living.
snip
Chris

I would agree that as a cyclist you have to watch out for buses etc. it
is however true that some bus drivers etc do not look out for cyclists.
This last Saturday I was stopped at light when a bus pulled up behind
me. When the lights change the bus driver pulled out and over took with
reasonable room, unfortunatly he then started to both pull in and brake
to stop at a bus stop ( he was pulling up short to the stop as there was
a bus already stopped at the stop )just as his rear wheel was level with
me. I had to brake hard too avoid being the filling in a kerb/bus
sandwich. As I passed the drivers window I pointed out what he had done
( surprisingly without expletives) then carried on my way.A little way
further on ( before the next bus stop ) I became aware that the bus was
not overtaking me, I looked round and saw the bus behind me and the
driver appeared to be indicating for me to pull over at the next stop.
He then passed me with the passenger door open and started shouting that
I "was an idiot and should not be on the road". He had to stop at the
next bus stop but shouted out of his window as I passed (could not make
that out). He over took me again, again with his door open shouting
something along the lines of " if your not on/a bus you should not be on
the road" and that " I should be on a cycle lane and not on the road" (
the fact that he had never noticed that there are total of 20yrds of
cycle lane on the 3 miles of this road is worrying)At this point all I
shouted back to him was I was reporting him and read out his bus ID
number . I then stopped and took down his license plate number as he
continued on his way. I later reported his behavior to the police (
after I had cooled down)

Allan

vernon levy wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 2 Sep 2004:

I think you should have a spell as a bus driver and experience the stresses
and strains of trying to maintain a public service to a timetable in an
environment that conspires to prevent it from happening. If was the person
receiving your trivial letter(s) of complaint I can guarantee my litter bin
would give it the attention it deserved.


Exactly! I might complain, or perhaps *explain*, were we to be fined
for inadvertently putting a wheel into the bus lane; otherwise, why?
The bus had no choice, after all. It's not like those drivers who see
you running up and deliberately pull away, laughing - or those
conductors who start the bus before you have got off, and then refuse to
apologise....

Fortunately, there are enough of the other kind to prove that these are
the exceptions, rather than the rules.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/

davek wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 2 Sep 2004:

Annabel Smyth wrote:
We *had* to go slightly into the bus lane, as there was
no other option left open

...except waiting for the bus to pass, which is what you should have done.

We couldn't; there was no space - we would all be sat there yet, waiting
for someone to be able to reverse!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/

Annabel Smyth wrote:
davek wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 2 Sep 2004:
...except waiting for the bus to pass, which is what you should have done.
We couldn't; there was no space - we would all be sat there yet, waiting
for someone to be able to reverse!

In theory, waiting restrictions should be so arranged that the parked
car would not be there during the hours of operation of the bus lane.

However, this requires thoughtful design, careful implementation, and
no politically-motivated adjustments afterwards.

Colin McKenzie
--
The great advantage of not trusting statistics is that
it leaves you free to believe the damned lies instead!