Paul Weaver wrote:
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
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Secondly, no, train operators are not allowed to use personal hi-fis, are
you sure that is what it was and not personal protective equipment (PPE) -
ear defenders, which they are?


Is a newspaper PPE?

Only when used to cover the face !-)





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In message , Kevin Rayner
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Are underground train drivers allowed to use personal hi fi's, the driver
(if that is the correct term) on the Victoria line this evening was. They
will want the first carriage left empty for a quick game of squash between
stations next, if Bob Crow gets his way.
Anybody prepared to quote the regulations on this.

Kevin


Aren't the sheds (the GBrf/Freightliner ones) equipped with FM radios
that the driver listens to through earphones, but any alarms (TPWS, etc)
interrupt the sound so he doesn't miss anything. Or is my memory playing
tricks?
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In message , Ian F.
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"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
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Personal hifi's what?

The answer is, no they are not allowed to use personal hifis (or mobile
phones for that matter).

mobile *'*phones, surely?

To avoid confusion with mobile hydrophones?
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Roger H. Bennett wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 24 Sep 2004:

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
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Is a newspaper PPE?

Only when used to cover the face !-)

Or if there's a wasp in the cab ;-)

Or if they tear off small bits to screw up and put in their ears :-)
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"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
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In message , Kevin Rayner
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Are underground train drivers allowed to use personal hi fi's

Personal hifi's what?

The answer is, no they are not allowed to use personal hifis (or mobile
phones for that matter).

Saw a driver of a northbound 156 using his mobile while on the move when I
was returning on the SB 37's on Wednesday.


Tom

It was the two wires dangling down from his ears that gave the game
away. He needs to be disciplined for stupidity alone. At least use a
hifi with black wires, not light grey, they stand out like a sore
thumb. The train number was 275.

Kevin

Certainly he was breaking the rules by using a stereo, and acting
stupidly by doing it in view of the public. But what harm was he
really doing? Its not like he was driving the train, the Victoria line
is run automatically. If he's caught, he'll almost certainly get the
sack. Why do you feel its such a big deal that you're prepared to
report him, announce his train number so he can be identified, and
cause him to probably lose his career, yes for breaking the rules, but
not in anyway thats going to cause any harm to you. Why are people so
desperate to report any misdemeanor even when basically its got
nothing to do with them. Just think of the consequences of identifying
him. To you he might just be an anonymous railway employee, but no
doubt he's got dependants to support. You are directly risking his
livelyhood, even if he was acting stupidly in the first place.

"terzal" wrote in message
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Certainly he was breaking the rules by using a stereo, and acting
stupidly by doing it in view of the public. But what harm was he
really doing? Its not like he was driving the train, the Victoria line
is run automatically. If he's caught, he'll almost certainly get the
sack. Why do you feel its such a big deal that you're prepared to
report him, announce his train number so he can be identified, and
cause him to probably lose his career, yes for breaking the rules, but
not in anyway thats going to cause any harm to you. Why are people so
desperate to report any misdemeanor even when basically its got
nothing to do with them. Just think of the consequences of identifying
him. To you he might just be an anonymous railway employee, but no
doubt he's got dependants to support. You are directly risking his
livelyhood, even if he was acting stupidly in the first place.

Perhaps because if the train operator concerned could not hear urgent
messages from the Line Controller to stop in an emergency situation?

What concerns me, is the poster did not inform staff at the station he got
off the train at of what he thought he saw, so it could have been checked
immediately if the train operator was actually using a personal stereo
rather than having ear defenders on and some wires / cable / cord dangling
down.

Dave Newt newtonline{at}gmail.com wrote in message t.net...
Steve Fitzgerald wrote:

In message , Kevin Rayner
writes

Are underground train drivers allowed to use personal hi fi's


Personal hifi's what?

The answer is, no they are not allowed to use personal hifis (or mobile
phones for that matter).

I've seen them wearing foam earplugs (which presumably is ok?),
especially on the Vic line.

From what I seem to remember, H&S regulations state (Something along
the lines of...) that the workplace must provide ear-plugs for workers
exposed to sounds of over 85DB in the workplace. In our studio we are
provided with them for this reason...

On 24 Sep 2004 13:47:48 -0700, (terzal) wrote:

It was the two wires dangling down from his ears that gave the game
away. He needs to be disciplined for stupidity alone. At least use a
hifi with black wires, not light grey, they stand out like a sore
thumb. The train number was 275.

Kevin

Certainly he was breaking the rules by using a stereo, and acting
stupidly by doing it in view of the public. But what harm was he
really doing? Its not like he was driving the train, the Victoria line
is run automatically. If he's caught, he'll almost certainly get the
sack.

Hopefully he will get caught then.


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Kevin wrote:
It was the two wires dangling down from his ears that gave the game
away.

Some ear plugs come attached to wires/strings. Presumably to stop them
being lost or inadvertently dropped on the floor while putting them in
or taking them out.

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