Richard J. wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 30 Sep 2004:

In case you're not already aware of this ...

BBC2 TV, Thursday 30 September 2004, 7.30 pm (30 minutes)

Map Man: Beck

Grrr - turned it on about 5 minutes into it, watched for about 3
minutes, and next thing I knew it was 11.00 pm, and apparently I missed
a "fascinating" Horizon, too..... Grrr.... I *was* tired last night!
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:52:11 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

David Marshall wrote:
In article ,
Spyke wrote:

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Did I see an *old* map (with Aldwych on) that also had dashed
Crossrail and Chelsea-Hackney lines marked on?

Yes! There's one in Ken Garland's book* based on the 1994 diagram, but
including all the then known projected extensions and new lines,
including Crossrail as then planned (Amersham/Ealing to Stratford),
Chelsea-Hackney (Wimbledon to Hainault), ELL to Highbury & Islington and
East Dulwich, Met from Croxley to Watford Junction. It was produced for
internal LU use.


Curiously, that diagram is missing the station formerly known as
Aldersgate...

*Mr Beck's Underground Map by Ken Garland (Capital Transport, £12.95,
ISBN 1854141686)

Rupert (trainspotting is one thing, but train station spotting?
Nurse...)

"Richard J." wrote in message . ..
David Marshall wrote:

Did I see an *old* map (with Aldwych on) that also had dashed
Crossrail and Chelsea-Hackney lines marked on?

Yes! There's one in Ken Garland's book* based on the 1994 diagram, but
including all the then known projected extensions and new lines,
including Crossrail as then planned (Amersham/Ealing to Stratford),
Chelsea-Hackney (Wimbledon to Hainault), ELL to Highbury & Islington and
East Dulwich, Met from Croxley to Watford Junction. It was produced for
internal LU use.


I've only just picked up on this thread, but watched Map Man and found
it a fascinating programme. Interesting to note that, on Harry Beck's
last draft map for LT, including the still-to-be-finished Victoria
Line (the map was rejected in favour of Paul Garbutt's design), he
shows the Great Northern & City branch to Moorgate as having Finsbury
Park as its northern terminus - in reality it was cut back to Drayton
Park in 1964 to ease problems during construction of the Victoria Line
(the latter using at least one of the GN&C platform tunnels, I
believe)!

David E. Belcher

David E. Belcher wrote:

I've only just picked up on this thread, but watched Map Man and
found it a fascinating programme. Interesting to note that, on
Harry Beck's last draft map for LT, including the still-to-be-
finished Victoria Line (the map was rejected in favour of Paul
Garbutt's design),

Garbutt's map had already been published in May 1964. Beck based his
last design on Garbutt's map (which he would have regarded, as do LUL
nowadays, as based on his own original design).

he shows the Great Northern & City branch to Moorgate as having
Finsbury Park as its northern terminus

as did Garbutt's May 1964 map

- in reality it was cut back to Drayton Park in 1964 to ease problems
during construction of the Victoria Line (the latter using at
least one of the GN&C platform tunnels, I believe)!


The closure of Finsbury Park to Drayton Park was in October 1964, due as
you say to use of the GN&C platform tunnels in the reconstruction of
Finsbury Park.
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Richard J.
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