Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, John Rowland wrote:

Anyone wondering how Tramlink will bridge the vertical gap between
Crystal Palace station and Crystal Palace Parade, might be
interested in the German solution... I think TfL should suggest this
to the safety
bods just to get their reaction !

http://home.arcor.de/guenter.kretzsc...ack_carr_.html

That's genius.

Gets me thinking about other ways you could move trams, though. Could
you fit one on a (specially-built) flatbed in a tube tunnel? How
about a subsurface tunnel?


Been done, Kingsway Tram Subway

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...ay/index.shtml

http://www.yellins.co.uk/transporthi...s4/subway.html

--- "Nathan Whitington" said about www.func-junc.co.uk



I think his web design is nice and simple


It says "Untitled Document" in the title bar! That's poor web design IMHO.
The TITLE tag isn't exactly the hardest piece of HTML to learn...

"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
Hi all,

Anyone wondering how Tramlink will bridge the vertical gap between Crystal
Palace station and Crystal Palace Parade, might be interested in the German
solution... I think TfL should suggest this to the safety bods just to get
their reaction !

http://home.arcor.de/guenter.kretzsc...ack_carr_.html

There used to be several inclines in Cincinnati, some of which carried trams.

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:32:23 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

Hi all,

Anyone wondering how Tramlink will bridge the vertical gap between Crystal
Palace station and Crystal Palace Parade, might be interested in the German
solution... I think TfL should suggest this to the safety bods just to get
their reaction !

http://home.arcor.de/guenter.kretzsc...ack_carr_.html

It is an incredible line, that one, and I'm surprised it isn't better
known. A rural DMU-worked branch wanders off the main line, another
quite pretty branch wanders off that one, then among the trees just
before the end is the connection to the DB-operated funicular - and it
is huge, not a Scarborough-seafront job. At the top are second-hand
S-bahn type trains on an isolated electric line wandering through the
countryside.

The only snag is that it is in the middle of nowhere, though there is
a Youth Hostel at the end of the branch.
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message
...

have a look at www.func-junc.co.uk.

He should also stop spamming posters to this group.

So I'm not the only one he's been emailing?
pouts and feels less special

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"John Rowland" wrote in message ...
Hi all,

Anyone wondering how Tramlink will bridge the vertical gap between Crystal
Palace station and Crystal Palace Parade, might be interested in the German
solution... I think TfL should suggest this to the safety bods just to get
their reaction !

http://home.arcor.de/guenter.kretzsc...ack_carr_.html

How about something along the lines of the Falkirk Wheel narrowboat
lift? That'd *really* raise a few eyebrows! ;-)

David E. Belcher

"David E. Belcher" wrote in message
om...
"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Anyone wondering how Tramlink will bridge the vertical
gap between Crystal Palace station and Crystal Palace
Parade, might be interested in the German solution...


http://home.arcor.de/guenter.kretzsc...ack_carr_.html

How about something along the lines of the Falkirk Wheel
narrowboat lift? That'd *really* raise a few eyebrows! ;-)

Or would it raise one eyebrow, while lowering the other?

Anyway, the Falkirk Wheel isn't real, it's just an elaborate hoax to trick
unwitting websurfers into thinking there's something worth visiting in
Falkirk. Haven't you noticed that every picture of it looks like it was
drawn by a CAD package?

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

have a look at www.func-junc.co.uk. This is the solution to transport in
London

Well, I had a look at it, but didn't see anything about the problem of
getting trams up steep hills, which is what this thread was about.

Looks to me just like a load of standard issue pro car, anti railblurb
with a side serving of some cobblers called "roadionics" which is either
some sort of new gear for roadies or something to automatically guide
vehicles. No doubt the author thinks he's right on the cutting edge of
transport policy as opposed to actually being about 30 years behind the times.

Err, is this guy actually suggesting that we dig up every road junction in
London in an attempt to separate pedestrians, cycles and motor vehicles?
Apart from, well apart from lots of things, but doesn't he know that cyclists
are road users? Or that pedestrians don't like underpasses? Or that you will
have to cycle very slowly because of all the up and downs at junctions?
Or that it would bankrupt every local authority in the country? Or that
it would be impossible to maintain? Or that it would be horribly unpopular?
Or that he's just stark, raving, bonkers?

And, speaking as someone who used to do web design for a living,
his is, officially, ****e.


Matt Ashby
www.mattashby.com

On 5 Oct 2004 11:03:55 -0700, (Nathan
Whitington) wrote:

(Nick Cooper) wrote in message ...
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 19:31:28 +0000 (UTC), "DAVID HYDE-HARRISON"
wrote:

have a look at www.func-junc.co.uk. This is the solution to transport in
London

You should probably worry more about your ****e web-design.....

I think his web design is nice and simple

What? With the non-movable frame at the top with the massive logo
that effectively takes up 40% of the height on lower-res monitors?
Plus the same on the left taking up a third of the width? That leaves
his lame proposals in just 40% of the window area. Classic example of
web-design ignoring legacy systems to a degree that exludes users.
It's a good job that there's nothing worth reading on it....
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Piccadilly Pilot wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, John Rowland wrote:

Anyone wondering how Tramlink will bridge the vertical gap between
Crystal Palace station and Crystal Palace Parade, might be interested
in the German solution... I think TfL should suggest this to the
safety bods just to get their reaction !

http://home.arcor.de/guenter.kretzsc...ack_carr_.html

That's genius.

Gets me thinking about other ways you could move trams, though. Could
you fit one on a (specially-built) flatbed in a tube tunnel? How about
a subsurface tunnel?

Been done, Kingsway Tram Subway

That's not what i meant - i meant loading a whole tram onto a flatbed
wagon, then sending that through a normal tube tunnel. Just like the way
cars use the Channel Tunnel. You could use it to provide high-speed
single-seat journeys between different suburban tram networks (eg Croydon
Tramlink to Cross-River Transit via the Northern Line ...). A backbone for
a tram internet, if you will.

tom

--
skin thinking