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Sunil Sood October 7th 04 03:17 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
I haven't seen it mentioned here but it was on the BBC local news this
afternoon..

----
A police case against a Tube employee who was accused of trying to sell her
official London Underground hat on the internet has been criticised by
unions. Alex Wood was arrested then suspended from her job as a station
assistant at Waterloo station for eight weeks. A charge of theft was dropped
last Friday after four court hearings.

The RMT's Bobby Law said: "Finding a London Underground hat in the locker of
a London Underground employee at a London Underground station is an
astounding piece of police work."

The RMT said as of next week wearing a uniform hat will no longer be
compulsory.

The British Transport Police said: "We take this issue very seriously as
items of uniform can be of assistance to terrorists and other criminals.
"The member of staff was treated correctly and in line with normal
procedures throughout her detention."

The court dismissed the charges because there was no confirmation from the
website eBay available at that time that the items had been on their
website.
----

More at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3723374.stm

Regards
Sunil



Robert Gordon October 7th 04 04:50 PM

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Sunil Sood wrote:

The RMT's Bobby Law said: "Finding a London Underground hat in the locker of
a London Underground employee at a London Underground station is an
astounding piece of police work."


*scratches head*

--
Robert Gordon
http://m33p.be

Shane October 7th 04 05:01 PM

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"Robert Gordon" wrote in message
...
Sunil Sood wrote:

The RMT's Bobby Law said: "Finding a London Underground hat in the locker
of a London Underground employee at a London Underground station is an
astounding piece of police work."


*scratches head*



So what were they expecting to find, a McDonalds hat? a Police Constable
hat? oh wait, bunch of clowns............



Mait001 October 7th 04 08:38 PM

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As a barrister, I once defended someone for handling stolen goods, to wit, an
empty Royal Mail cash bag! Since, so the Prosecution case went, it would be
"impossible" to obtain such a bag except by stealing one, the person (in whose
garden shed, under a pile of junk it was found) must have either stolen it or
knowingly obtained it from someone who did.

I persuaded Prosecution Counsel to drop the charge when I explained that I
would return the brief and become a defence witness for my client, to the
effect that a few years ago, when buying a large quantity of stamps at a Post
Office, they were handed to me in a Royal Mail cash bag since they had run out
of envelopes or paper bags!

Anyone attending bus or railway rallies or auctions (as I often do) will see a
vast array of both current and vintage uniform items for sale. Perhaps the
Police ought to visit a few! I would wager it's possible to kit oneself out
completely in just about any Underground or other London Transport uniform,
including the prized "gold" or "silver" wallet badges which are used to
identify revenue protection officials. One of them fetched a 3-figure sum on
Ebay a few weeks ago.

Marc.

congokid October 8th 04 10:58 PM

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In message , Sunil Sood
writes

The RMT said as of next week wearing a uniform hat will no longer be
compulsory.

The British Transport Police said: "We take this issue very seriously as
items of uniform can be of assistance to terrorists and other criminals.
"The member of staff was treated correctly and in line with normal
procedures throughout her detention."


Easy then - the terrorist will be the one wearing the uniform hat.

--
congokid
Good restaurants in London? Number one on Google
http://congokid.com

Nick Cooper October 9th 04 09:07 AM

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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:58:05 +0100, congokid
wrote:

In message , Sunil Sood
writes

The RMT said as of next week wearing a uniform hat will no longer be
compulsory.

The British Transport Police said: "We take this issue very seriously as
items of uniform can be of assistance to terrorists and other criminals.
"The member of staff was treated correctly and in line with normal
procedures throughout her detention."


Easy then - the terrorist will be the one wearing the uniform hat.


"But how did you catch me?"
"Simply, Mr Terrorist - you are too well-dressed to be a London
Underground employee!"
"Bah! It would have worked if it wasn't for those meddling utl
posters!"
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

redtube October 9th 04 09:58 AM

The "tube hat" case
 

"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
"But how did you catch me?"
"Simply, Mr Terrorist - you are too well-dressed to be a London
Underground employee!"
"Bah! It would have worked if it wasn't for those meddling utl
posters!"
--
Nick Cooper


Actually Nick thats old hat. London Underground station staff are normally
very well dressed - and, in their hats as well! Drivers are supposed to wear
their hats when outside of the train cabs, but rarely do of course.



John Ray October 9th 04 06:13 PM

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redtube wrote:

Actually Nick thats old hat. London Underground station staff are normally
very well dressed - and, in their hats as well! Drivers are supposed to wear
their hats when outside of the train cabs, but rarely do of course.


No jokes about "Kat in a hat" please!

--
John Ray, London UK.

Nick Cooper October 9th 04 07:20 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:58:23 +0100, "redtube"
wrote:


"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
"But how did you catch me?"
"Simply, Mr Terrorist - you are too well-dressed to be a London
Underground employee!"
"Bah! It would have worked if it wasn't for those meddling utl
posters!"
--
Nick Cooper


Actually Nick thats old hat. London Underground station staff are normally
very well dressed - and, in their hats as well! Drivers are supposed to wear
their hats when outside of the train cabs, but rarely do of course.


Tomorrow's headline: "LU EMPLOYEE IN SENSE-OF-HUMOUR-BYPASS SHOCKER!"

--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

redtube October 9th 04 10:33 PM

The "tube hat" case
 

"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:58:23 +0100, "redtube"
wrote:


"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
"But how did you catch me?"
"Simply, Mr Terrorist - you are too well-dressed to be a London
Underground employee!"
"Bah! It would have worked if it wasn't for those meddling utl
posters!"
--
Nick Cooper


Actually Nick thats old hat. London Underground station staff are

normally
very well dressed - and, in their hats as well! Drivers are supposed to

wear
their hats when outside of the train cabs, but rarely do of course.


Tomorrow's headline: "LU EMPLOYEE IN SENSE-OF-HUMOUR-BYPASS SHOCKER!"

--
Nick Cooper


Nick seems a familiar product i.e., possibly ur average commuter bore with
a grudge against rail staff although dont quote me - probably not always
directed necessarily towards LUL staff either. I'm used to 'em however, and
yes I'm an old dinorsaur and proud of it, and often they get short shift
from me, trouble is these days we have to be nice to 'em and make horrendous
announcement all over the shop otherwise we get told off! I wont be around
in a few years however 'cos i'll be retired on the nice big fat pension we
apparently get.
Redtube



Nick Cooper October 10th 04 12:45 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 23:33:19 +0100, "redtube"
wrote:


"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:58:23 +0100, "redtube"
wrote:


"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
"But how did you catch me?"
"Simply, Mr Terrorist - you are too well-dressed to be a London
Underground employee!"
"Bah! It would have worked if it wasn't for those meddling utl
posters!"
--
Nick Cooper

Actually Nick thats old hat. London Underground station staff are

normally
very well dressed - and, in their hats as well! Drivers are supposed to

wear
their hats when outside of the train cabs, but rarely do of course.


Tomorrow's headline: "LU EMPLOYEE IN SENSE-OF-HUMOUR-BYPASS SHOCKER!"

--
Nick Cooper


Nick seems a familiar product i.e., possibly ur average commuter bore with
a grudge against rail staff although dont quote me - probably not always
directed necessarily towards LUL staff either. I'm used to 'em however, and
yes I'm an old dinorsaur and proud of it, and often they get short shift
from me, trouble is these days we have to be nice to 'em and make horrendous
announcement all over the shop otherwise we get told off! I wont be around
in a few years however 'cos i'll be retired on the nice big fat pension we
apparently get.


Thanks for proving my point. Again.
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm


Piccadilly Pilot October 10th 04 02:10 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
Nick Cooper wrote:

Thanks for proving my point. Again.


How does your sense of humour stand up to constant knocking and slagging
off?



Nick Cooper October 10th 04 03:18 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:10:04 +0000 (UTC), "Piccadilly Pilot"
wrote:

Nick Cooper wrote:

Thanks for proving my point. Again.


How does your sense of humour stand up to constant knocking and slagging
off?


I've worked in the NHS for 15 years, so what do you think?

Hope you're not buying into redtube's "grudge against rail staff"
******** - I would have thought that the totality of my posts on utl
over the years would suggest the exact opposite.
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

Solar Penguin October 11th 04 12:54 PM

The "tube hat" case
 

--- Nick Cooper said:


Hope you're not buying into redtube's "grudge against rail
staff" ******** - I would have thought that the totality of
my posts on utl over the years would suggest the exact
opposite.


Good point. They prove you've got a grudge against *everybody*, not
just rail staff.
;-)




Nick Cooper October 11th 04 10:34 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:54:17 +0100, "Solar Penguin"
wrote:

Hope you're not buying into redtube's "grudge against rail
staff" ******** - I would have thought that the totality of
my posts on utl over the years would suggest the exact
opposite.


Good point. They prove you've got a grudge against *everybody*, not
just rail staff.
;-)


I should have known _someone_ would say that. You'd be hard-pressed
to find a bad word about firefighters, ambulance crews, or cats,
though....
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War:
http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm
625-Online - classic British television:
http://www.625.org.uk
'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic:
http://www.thingstocome.org.uk

Kat October 12th 04 12:03 PM

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John Ray wrote:
redtube wrote:

Actually Nick thats old hat. London Underground station staff are normally
very well dressed - and, in their hats as well! Drivers are supposed to wear
their hats when outside of the train cabs, but rarely do of course.


No jokes about "Kat in a hat" please!

LOL
Still, rumour has it that hat-wearing is about to become optional; I'll
still be wearing mine when it's cold though.
--
Kat


Clive Coleman October 14th 04 03:52 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
I should have known _someone_ would say that. You'd be hard-pressed to
find a bad word about firefighters, ambulance crews, or cats,
though....

Where do cats come into the discussion?
--
Clive Coleman

Piccadilly Pilot October 14th 04 05:23 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
Clive Coleman wrote:
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
I should have known _someone_ would say that. You'd be hard-pressed
to find a bad word about firefighters, ambulance crews, or cats,
though....

Where do cats come into the discussion?


Every self respecting station has a cat.



Steve Dulieu October 14th 04 05:23 PM

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"Clive Coleman" wrote in message
...
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
I should have known _someone_ would say that. You'd be hard-pressed to
find a bad word about firefighters, ambulance crews, or cats,
though....

Where do cats come into the discussion?


There's one working at Mile End...:-)
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.



Jim Brittin October 15th 04 10:54 AM

The "tube hat" case
 
In article ,
says...
Clive Coleman wrote:
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
I should have known _someone_ would say that. You'd be hard-pressed
to find a bad word about firefighters, ambulance crews, or cats,
though....

Where do cats come into the discussion?


Every self respecting station has a cat.



Incidentally, was the cat stolen from Loughton station ever traced?

Brimstone October 15th 04 11:06 AM

The "tube hat" case
 
Jim Brittin wrote:
In article ,
says...
Clive Coleman wrote:
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
I should have known _someone_ would say that. You'd be
hard-pressed to find a bad word about firefighters, ambulance
crews, or cats, though....
Where do cats come into the discussion?


Every self respecting station has a cat.



Incidentally, was the cat stolen from Loughton station ever traced?


They tend not to stay still long enough to permit it happening. Besides,
tracing is really only successful on a reasonably smooth surface.



Jim Brittin October 15th 04 11:17 AM

The "tube hat" case
 
In article ,
says...
Jim Brittin wrote:
In article ,
says...
Clive Coleman wrote:
In message , Nick Cooper
writes
I should have known _someone_ would say that. You'd be
hard-pressed to find a bad word about firefighters, ambulance
crews, or cats, though....
Where do cats come into the discussion?

Every self respecting station has a cat.



Incidentally, was the cat stolen from Loughton station ever traced?


They tend not to stay still long enough to permit it happening. Besides,
tracing is really only successful on a reasonably smooth surface.



LOL

Stimpy October 15th 04 07:44 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
Brimstone wrote:

Incidentally, was the cat stolen from Loughton station ever traced?


They tend not to stay still long enough to permit it happening.
Besides, tracing is really only successful on a reasonably smooth
surface.


....and the tracing paper tends to get very crinkly as the cat wriggles



Brimstone October 15th 04 08:50 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
Stimpy wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Incidentally, was the cat stolen from Loughton station ever traced?


They tend not to stay still long enough to permit it happening.
Besides, tracing is really only successful on a reasonably smooth
surface.


...and the tracing paper tends to get very crinkly as the cat wriggles


Hence, "is really only successful on a reasonably smooth surface."



Stimpy October 15th 04 11:53 PM

The "tube hat" case
 
Brimstone wrote:
Stimpy wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Incidentally, was the cat stolen from Loughton station ever traced?

They tend not to stay still long enough to permit it happening.
Besides, tracing is really only successful on a reasonably smooth
surface.


...and the tracing paper tends to get very crinkly as the cat
wriggles


Hence, "is really only successful on a reasonably smooth surface."


Our cat is very smooth... then she moves :-)



Brimstone October 22nd 04 01:45 PM

The "tube hat" case
 

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Brimstone wrote:
Stimpy wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

Incidentally, was the cat stolen from Loughton station ever traced?

They tend not to stay still long enough to permit it happening.
Besides, tracing is really only successful on a reasonably smooth
surface.

...and the tracing paper tends to get very crinkly as the cat
wriggles


Hence, "is really only successful on a reasonably smooth surface."


Our cat is very smooth... then she moves :-)

Just no consideration modern felines! :-)




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