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Bus cash fares will go up from £1 to £1.20 in January. Bus Saver
tickets will go up from 70p to £1 - the cost of a pack of six will rise from £4.20 to £6. That's a big price increase and I intend to stock up for the next few years, but will I be caught out? There's no expiry date on Saver tickets, but will the design change and my stock be rendered invalid? Will Bua Saver tickets be withdrawn altogether in a year or two? Does anyone have any insight or insider information of what will happen? Thanks, Dominic |
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![]() "Dominic" wrote in message om... Bus cash fares will go up from £1 to £1.20 in January. Bus Saver tickets will go up from 70p to £1 - the cost of a pack of six will rise from £4.20 to £6. That's a big price increase and I intend to stock up for the next few years, but will I be caught out? There's no expiry date on Saver tickets, but will the design change and my stock be rendered invalid? Will Bua Saver tickets be withdrawn altogether in a year or two? Does anyone have any insight or insider information of what will happen? Thanks, Dominic An indication of where you are might help, there are no fares like that round here..! Ivor |
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Ivor Jones wrote:
"Dominic" wrote in message om... Bus cash fares will go up from £1 to £1.20 in January. Bus Saver tickets will go up from 70p to £1 - the cost of a pack of six will rise from £4.20 to £6. That's a big price increase and I intend to stock up for the next few years, but will I be caught out? There's no expiry date on Saver tickets, but will the design change and my stock be rendered invalid? Will Bua Saver tickets be withdrawn altogether in a year or two? Does anyone have any insight or insider information of what will happen? Thanks, Dominic An indication of where you are might help, there are no fares like that round here..! The OP was referring to London bus fares. Follow-up set to limit this thread to u.t.l -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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On 11 Oct 2004 12:49:26 -0700 Dominic said...
That's a big price increase and I intend to stock up for the next few years, but will I be caught out? There's no expiry date on Saver tickets, but will the design change and my stock be rendered invalid? IIRC the price of the individual Saver tickets went up from 65p to 70p at the beginning of this year with no change of design so I suspect the stock won't change. Although there is no expiry date, no doubt TfL/LOndon Buses have got hidden somewhere in their Conditions of Carriage that they have the right to withdraw the product when they want. ISTR about 5 years London Buses introduced a Saver 6 "5 for the price of 6" on one ticket valid in Zone 1 only. Conductors or the driver had clip the ticket against the next unused number. Wasn't successful and it got withdrawn a short while after. Will Bua Saver tickets be withdrawn altogether in a year or two? Bearing in mind from January 2005 it will Oyster Prepay will be cheaper (80p vs £1) after 09:30 Mon-Fri & all day weekends I reckon the Saver product won't be around for much longer. -- Phil Richards London, UK Home page: http://www.philrichards1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk |
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"Phil Richards" wrote in message
T... ISTR about 5 years London Buses introduced a Saver 6 "5 for the price of 6" on one ticket valid in Zone 1 only. Wasn't successful I'm not surprised... "6 for the price of 5" might have done better...;-) -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Phil Richards wrote in
T: Although there is no expiry date, no doubt TfL/LOndon Buses have got hidden somewhere in their Conditions of Carriage that they have the right to withdraw the product when they want. What notice would they give, and would they refund the cost of any unused tickets? I got caught on a similar thing when Mercury (remember them) withdrew their payphones. I had unused credit on a calling card. |
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"Andrew Black (delete obvious bit)" wrote in message . 4...
Phil Richards wrote in T: Although there is no expiry date, no doubt TfL/LOndon Buses have got hidden somewhere in their Conditions of Carriage that they have the right to withdraw the product when they want. What notice would they give, and would they refund the cost of any unused tickets? I got caught on a similar thing when Mercury (remember them) withdrew their payphones. I had unused credit on a calling card. I reckon they'll be around for at least another 2 years. We know from TfL's Jan 2005 price list that they'll be around next year, and if they were discontinued in Jan 2006 I think it would take a year to phase them out and declare them no longer valid. That seems reasonable notice. Dominic |
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Phil Richards wrote in message ET...
On 11 Oct 2004 12:49:26 -0700 Dominic said... That's a big price increase and I intend to stock up for the next few years, but will I be caught out? There's no expiry date on Saver tickets, but will the design change and my stock be rendered invalid? IIRC the price of the individual Saver tickets went up from 65p to 70p at the beginning of this year with no change of design so I suspect the stock won't change. Although there is no expiry date, no doubt TfL/LOndon Buses have got hidden somewhere in their Conditions of Carriage that they have the right to withdraw the product when they want. ISTR about 5 years London Buses introduced a Saver 6 "5 for the price of 6" on one ticket valid in Zone 1 only. Conductors or the driver had clip the ticket against the next unused number. Wasn't successful and it got withdrawn a short while after. Will Bua Saver tickets be withdrawn altogether in a year or two? Bearing in mind from January 2005 it will Oyster Prepay will be cheaper (80p vs 1) after 09:30 Mon-Fri & all day weekends I reckon the Saver product won't be around for much longer. I think the roadside ticket machines may also have sounded the death knell for Bus Saver Tickets, since they're both solutions to the same problem - reducing boarding times. I wish London Buses had done more to promote Saver Tickets and the Ticket Stops that sell them, instead of introducing pay before you board in central London. If someone's first experience of a London Bus is the driver telling them to get off and probably driving off without them, they won't get a good first impression of bus travel! |
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I think the roadside ticket machines may also have sounded the death
knell for Bus Saver Tickets, since they're both solutions to the same problem - reducing boarding times. But have they really? I'm still shocked by the amount of would-be passengers that are kicked off buses in the Central Zone because of the fact that they didn't realise that they had to have a ticket before they boarded - even now (as an aside - when was this introduced? 6months? 12 months ago?). I'm sure that some of these were tourists, and could be forgiven for their error, especially those without a semi-decent grasp of English, but I feel that this thing happens all too often for it to be a coincidence. Is this "new" rule actually published outside the country? I was in the USA on business earlier this year, and whilst waiting in the departure lounge at JFK, I spotted a "visitors guide" (or something along those lines) to London, published by our friends at TfL - it was dated September 2002, and as such didn't carry any information about this, and also hopelessly outdated prices. As it was, I'd intended to keep it and find out just how many inaccuracies it contained, but forgot it and left it behind. Oh well. M |
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![]() "M J Forbes" wrote in message ... I think the roadside ticket machines may also have sounded the death knell for Bus Saver Tickets, since they're both solutions to the same problem - reducing boarding times. But have they really? I'm still shocked by the amount of would-be passengers that are kicked off buses in the Central Zone because of the fact that they didn't realise that they had to have a ticket before they boarded - even now (as an aside - when was this introduced? 6months? 12 months ago?). I'm sure that some of these were tourists, and could be forgiven for their error, especially those without a semi-decent grasp of English, but I feel that this thing happens all too often for it to be a coincidence. Is this "new" rule actually published outside the country? I don't think that it's published outside of london. I live well within the London commuting area (when I'm actually in the UK) and were it not for the fact that I take this group I wouldn't know stuff all about this new rule. tim |
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