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Hmmm, by paying 1 pound for an hour at 17:05 you should get an hour's
parking therefore your ticket should be valid until 9:35 the following
morning if the chargeable time is until 17:30 (Every car-park that I've
ever
used near the end of the paid-for time has issued me with such a ticket
though I don't know if it's universal).

As for making a stand, what's the point? Maybe a mistake has been made?
Have
you never made a mistake? Just send a note back with the evidence and you
will surely get the ticket rescinded.

I think the point is, why should he have to? He has committed no offence and
yet he has to go to time and trouble to prove his innocence!

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In uk.legal Carlos wrote:
I parked in a pay-and-display area at 17:05. Put ?1 in the machine
(charge
is ?1/hr) and the ticket came out valid until 17:30 after which time
parking
is free. The signage also confirmed that parking is chargeable only
between
09:00 - 17:30.

Came back to find a parking ticket, time-stamped at 17:36.

Clearly the parking attendant was trying it on, aware that a certain
percentage probably just pay up. But I want to make a stand and sue the
council for wasting my time. Would I be reasonable in charging a ?50
admin
charge for having to issue an explanatory note..?


Hmmm, by paying 1 pound for an hour at 17:05 you should get an hour's
parking therefore your ticket should be valid until 9:35 the following
morning if the chargeable time is until 17:30 (Every car-park that I've
ever
used near the end of the paid-for time has issued me with such a ticket
though I don't know if it's universal).

As for making a stand, what's the point? Maybe a mistake has been made?
Have
you never made a mistake? Just send a note back with the evidence and you
will surely get the ticket rescinded.

But traffic wardens are paid to be conversant with the rules in the bays
that they "police". If the warden is making mistakes then, at best, he/she
needs to be educated better, which is a training issue for their employer;
at worst, the warden is being malicious, in which case it is a disciplinary
matter for their employer.

I once received a ticket for parking legally - I returned to my car within
the hour's free parking time, to find a ticket. The warden was nearby so I
asked him to explain. "You've been there for over an hour," he said. When I
asked to see written evidence of the time that he'd first recorded my car's
presence, he blushed, waffled and said that "maybe I've made a mistake". I
reported the matter to Oxford County Council (the warden's employer) but I
never heard any more. I hope he was severely bollocked or even sacked for
"trying it on".

"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
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In uk.legal Carlos wrote:
I parked in a pay-and-display area at 17:05. Put ?1 in the machine
(charge
is ?1/hr) and the ticket came out valid until 17:30 after which time
parking
is free. The signage also confirmed that parking is chargeable only
between
09:00 - 17:30.

Came back to find a parking ticket, time-stamped at 17:36.

Clearly the parking attendant was trying it on, aware that a certain
percentage probably just pay up. But I want to make a stand and sue the
council for wasting my time. Would I be reasonable in charging a ?50
admin
charge for having to issue an explanatory note..?


Hmmm, by paying 1 pound for an hour at 17:05 you should get an hour's
parking therefore your ticket should be valid until 9:35 the following
morning if the chargeable time is until 17:30 (Every car-park that I've
ever
used near the end of the paid-for time has issued me with such a ticket
though I don't know if it's universal).

As for making a stand, what's the point? Maybe a mistake has been made?
Have
you never made a mistake? Just send a note back with the evidence and you
will surely get the ticket rescinded.

But traffic wardens are paid to be conversant with the rules in the bays
that they "police". If the warden is making mistakes then, at best, he/she
needs to be educated better, which is a training issue for their employer;
at worst, the warden is being malicious, in which case it is a
disciplinary matter for their employer.

I once received a ticket for parking legally - I returned to my car within
the hour's free parking time, to find a ticket. The warden was nearby so I
asked him to explain. "You've been there for over an hour," he said. When
I asked to see written evidence of the time that he'd first recorded my
car's presence, he blushed, waffled and said that "maybe I've made a
mistake". I reported the matter to Oxford County Council (the warden's
employer) but I never heard any more. I hope he was severely bollocked or
even sacked for "trying it on".


Until all councils remove the bonus incentive of issuing tickets, then there
will always be wardens trying it on.
Just like the builder who is paid by the hour. The longer he can stay on the
job, the more he will earn.

S

JohnB writes:

And just how do you think Barnet Council will recoup the costs you
impose on them?

Maybe by the saving on the wages which used to be paid to the
(ex-)parking attendant who acted outside the rules.

In article , Carlos says...


But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs knocking on
my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the tickets, travelling
to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20 minutes to send it recorded
delivery........

You have to accept it as part of being stupid enough to live in London.


--
Conor

Normality will be restored once we work out what normality actually is.

In message , at 11:20:31 on
Wed, 17 Nov 2004, remarked:
Hmmm, by paying 1 pound for an hour at 17:05 you should get an hour's
parking therefore your ticket should be valid until 9:35 the following
morning if the chargeable time is until 17:30 (Every car-park that I've ever
used near the end of the paid-for time has issued me with such a ticket
though I don't know if it's universal).

I've never found one that would roll-over the balance (35 mins) like
that. But most will stamp the ticket "9.00 am", rather than "17.30".
--
Roland Perry

In uk.legal Martin Underwood wrote:
wrote in message
As for making a stand, what's the point? Maybe a mistake has been made?
Have
you never made a mistake? Just send a note back with the evidence and you
will surely get the ticket rescinded.

But traffic wardens are paid to be conversant with the rules in the bays
that they "police". If the warden is making mistakes then, at best, he/she
needs to be educated better, which is a training issue for their employer;
at worst, the warden is being malicious, in which case it is a disciplinary
matter for their employer.

Have you never ever made a mistake at work? Maybe the traffic warden was
new, maybe their watch had stopped.. Perhaps the OP shouldn't take it
personally. Perhaps people should calm down a bit. But at the mo no-one
knows if it was a mistake or not because the OP is bleating about suing
instead of pursuing the proper channels. Yes it is a pain having to prove
your innocence like that but there are channels to do it. Now if the council
come back and say that the ticket should not have been issued I think the OP
might have a point. But if the car-park really is charge-free after the time
the OP states then I'd wager that his fine will be rescinded.

Cheers

Rob

In uk.legal Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:20:31 on
Wed, 17 Nov 2004, remarked:
Hmmm, by paying 1 pound for an hour at 17:05 you should get an hour's
parking therefore your ticket should be valid until 9:35 the following
morning if the chargeable time is until 17:30 (Every car-park that I've ever
used near the end of the paid-for time has issued me with such a ticket
though I don't know if it's universal).

I've never found one that would roll-over the balance (35 mins) like
that. But most will stamp the ticket "9.00 am", rather than "17.30".

As an example the on-street ones in Derby do (or did a few months ago).

Cheers

Rob

In article , (ABC) wrote:

Until all councils remove the bonus incentive of issuing tickets, then
there will always be wardens trying it on.
Just like the builder who is paid by the hour. The longer he can stay
on the job, the more he will earn.

Do you have any evidence of councils paying bonuses? Cambridge has just
started with its own parking attendants and doesn't pay any such thing.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Carlos wrote:
By wasting yet more time pursuing a frivolous action? I suppose
some people might think there's logic in that approach, but their
probably
the ones with too much time on their hands.

If your time is valuable enough to contemplate suing for it being
wasted, its too valuable to waste in pursuing the course of action
you propose.

If I could just rip up the ticket and forget about it then I
wouldn't mind at all.

But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs
knocking on my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the
tickets, travelling to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20
minutes to send it recorded delivery...

Oh, for goodness sake! Just phone them up and explain what happened.
If it's as clear-cut as you say it is, they'll probably rescind the
ticket straight away. They can hardly pursue a penalty if the time of
the "offence" is during the free parking period.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)