"Kevin" wrote in message
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These "wouldn't it be great if we had a train from here to there"
arguements never cease to amaze me. Presumabley somebody waves a magic
wand and hey presto ther is all the extra capacity for this.
Aren't doing away with the dedicated Gatwick Express for the reason of
overcrowding on the Brighton line. I am not sure how many people from
Sussex would want to end up in Liverpool St.

Those who do usually take Thameslink to Farringdon and change onto the
Circle/Metropolitan/H&C line there. Just a walk over the bridge required.
Coming back is even easier.

I can't see this proposal being an advance on that.
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"David E. Belcher" wrote in message
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To build on the last-mentioned point, surely a lot of air travellers
from Essex & East Anglia would be better off going from Stansted
rather than Gatwick?

Provided they can get a flight to their destination of choice, yes.
Likewise, those from Sussex and Kent would prefer to fly from Gatwick,
although Southampton can be an alternative. Heathrow is undesirable, and
Luton and Stansted are last resorts.
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On 30 Nov 2004, David E. Belcher wrote:

"R.C. Payne" wrote in message ...

I'd have thought that the easterly connections with Crossrail, linking
with the current Thameslink services would provide most of the
inner-suburban connectivity for such a route, and the number of people
going between far Essex and East Anglia and Sussex, for whom an extra
connection is offputting are few in number.

To build on the last-mentioned point, surely a lot of air travellers
from Essex & East Anglia would be better off going from Stansted rather
than Gatwick?

Depends where their flight goes from!

tom

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"Kevin" wrote in message
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(Aidan Stanger) wrote in message
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I am not sure how many people from
Sussex would want to end up in Liverpool St.
Kevin

It *might* be a popular commuter destination if the journey time were to be
roughly the same as current services into London Bridge. I used to commute
from the Sussex Coast to offices near Liverpool Station, and I can think of
a number of folk (both in and out of the same office) who did (and still do)
a similar journey. Also, with connections off the ELL, such a service could
be to the advantage of people working in Docklands.

D A Stocks

Tom Anderson wrote in message ...
On 30 Nov 2004, David E. Belcher wrote:

"R.C. Payne" wrote in message ...

I'd have thought that the easterly connections with Crossrail, linking
with the current Thameslink services would provide most of the
inner-suburban connectivity for such a route, and the number of people
going between far Essex and East Anglia and Sussex, for whom an extra
connection is offputting are few in number.

To build on the last-mentioned point, surely a lot of air travellers
from Essex & East Anglia would be better off going from Stansted rather
than Gatwick?

Depends where their flight goes from!


Very true - as far as I know Stansted doesn't cater much - if at all -
for longer-haul inter-continental runs (e.g. Australia or the USA).
But for a lot of European destinations it makes sense.

David E. Belcher

"Terry Harper" wrote in
:

"Kevin" wrote in message
om...

These "wouldn't it be great if we had a train from here to there"
arguements never cease to amaze me. Presumabley somebody waves a magic
wand and hey presto ther is all the extra capacity for this.
Aren't doing away with the dedicated Gatwick Express for the reason of
overcrowding on the Brighton line. I am not sure how many people from
Sussex would want to end up in Liverpool St.

Those who do usually take Thameslink to Farringdon and change onto the
Circle/Metropolitan/H&C line there. Just a walk over the bridge required.
Coming back is even easier.

I can't see this proposal being an advance on that.

Or alight at London Bridge and catch the bus! (The route via Farringdon is
certainly easy but not exactly quick, ditto Jubilee line to Stratford - if
heading East - and Northern to Bank, change for the Central too much like
hard work).

"David Jackman" wrote in message
52.50...
"Terry Harper" wrote in
:

Those who do usually take Thameslink to Farringdon and change onto the
Circle/Metropolitan/H&C line there. Just a walk over the bridge
required.
Coming back is even easier.

Or alight at London Bridge and catch the bus! (The route via Farringdon
is
certainly easy but not exactly quick, ditto Jubilee line to Stratford - if
heading East - and Northern to Bank, change for the Central too much like
hard work).

All involve a lot of walking, though, and a bit of a trial with any luggage.
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
75th Anniversary 2004, see http://www.omnibussoc.org/75th.htm
E-mail:
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Terry Harper wrote:
"David E. Belcher" wrote...

To build on the last-mentioned point, surely a lot of air travellers
from Essex & East Anglia would be better off going from Stansted
rather than Gatwick?

Passengers would be better off with a choice of airports. Since those
people who live near airports have a higher propensity to fly, improving
access to other airports is worthwhile. The alternative is to increase
the range of destinations served from the local airport, but that would
require more runways, which I strongly oppose.

Provided they can get a flight to their destination of choice, yes.
Likewise, those from Sussex and Kent would prefer to fly from Gatwick,
although Southampton can be an alternative. Heathrow is undesirable, and
Luton and Stansted are last resorts.

From Sussex maybe, but from Kent Heathrow is still a good option (though
not as good as Gatwick), and Southampton isn't. There is Manston, but
AFAIK it doesn't have many flights yet.

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"Terry Harper" wrote:

"David E. Belcher" wrote in message
om...

To build on the last-mentioned point, surely a lot of air travellers
from Essex & East Anglia would be better off going from Stansted
rather than Gatwick?

Provided they can get a flight to their destination of choice, yes.
Likewise, those from Sussex and Kent would prefer to fly from Gatwick,
although Southampton can be an alternative. Heathrow is undesirable, and
Luton and Stansted are last resorts.

For parts of Kent I would have thought Stanstead was possibly closer than
Southampton, the latter is 120 miles from Maidstone for instance.

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Graeme Wall
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"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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In message
"Terry Harper" wrote:

Provided they can get a flight to their destination of choice, yes.
Likewise, those from Sussex and Kent would prefer to fly from Gatwick,
although Southampton can be an alternative. Heathrow is undesirable, and
Luton and Stansted are last resorts.

For parts of Kent I would have thought Stanstead was possibly closer than
Southampton, the latter is 120 miles from Maidstone for instance.

Yes, I should have qualified it as Southampton for most of Sussex and
Manston (or Lydd) for the rest.
--
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75th Anniversary 2004, see http://www.omnibussoc.org/75th.htm
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