Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

"Michael Bell" wrote in message
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In article , John Rowland
wrote:

But they don't want people carrying bombs brought through their
basements.

That's a risk with all forms of transport.


Including the present arrangements for pedestrians.

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"Brimstone" wrote in message
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"Michael Bell" wrote in message
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In article , John Rowland
wrote:

But they don't want people carrying bombs
brought through their basements.

That's a risk with all forms of transport.

Including the present arrangements for pedestrians.

There aren't many places where pedestrians or vehicles go through the
basement of a building.

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Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

John Rowland wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
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"Michael Bell" wrote in message
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In article , John Rowland
wrote:

But they don't want people carrying bombs
brought through their basements.

That's a risk with all forms of transport.

Including the present arrangements for pedestrians.

There aren't many places where pedestrians or vehicles go through the
basement of a building.

But there's nothing to stop a pedestrian simply walking into a shop or other
premises, or even simply in the street, and setting off a bomb. I understand
it's happened once or twice in various parts of the world.

Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Terry Harper wrote:

You could route it above the pavements with
bridges across the road junctions, and across
the river. Escalators up to travelator level.

Highly popular with first-floor residents, I should imagine.
It would ruin the streetscape if it were above street level.

The clearance required is also much greater. Subways beneath the roads
would
be shallow and could easily come back up to street level.

You've never been to a town with arcades at first floor level then? Or one
with an overhead tramway/railway system?
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
75th Anniversary 2004, see http://www.omnibussoc.org/75th.htm
E-mail:
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Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

Terry Harper wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Terry Harper wrote:

You could route it above the pavements with
bridges across the road junctions, and across
the river. Escalators up to travelator level.

Highly popular with first-floor residents, I should imagine.
It would ruin the streetscape if it were above street level.

The clearance required is also much greater. Subways beneath the roads

would

be shallow and could easily come back up to street level.


You've never been to a town with arcades at first floor level then? Or one
with an overhead tramway/railway system?

Do they regularly try to fit these overhead constructs into existing
narrow streets that are hundreds of years old?

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

John Rowland wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Terry Harper wrote:

You could route it above the pavements with
bridges across the road junctions, and across
the river. Escalators up to travelator level.

Highly popular with first-floor residents, I should imagine.
It would ruin the streetscape if it were above street level.


The clearance required is also much greater. Subways beneath the roads would
be shallow and could easily come back up to street level.

Although it might be problematic where there are cut-and-cover
Underground lines.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

"Brimstone" wrote in message
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But there's nothing to stop a pedestrian simply walking into a shop or
other
premises, or even simply in the street, and setting off a bomb. I
understand
it's happened once or twice in various parts of the world.

Warrington, when the IRA murdered two innocent kids? Or Manchester, when
they had the "decency" to give a warning and blew half of the city center
up?

--
Everything above is the personal opinion of the author, and nothing to do
with where he works and all that lovely disclaimery stuff.
Posted in his lunch hour too.

Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

Paul Weaver wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
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But there's nothing to stop a pedestrian simply walking into a shop
or other premises, or even simply in the street, and setting off a
bomb. I understand it's happened once or twice in various parts of
the world.

Warrington, when the IRA murdered two innocent kids? Or Manchester,
when they had the "decency" to give a warning and blew half of the
city center up?

Or Docklands, or numerous places in Palestine/Israel, or several hundred
other location around the world. What's your point?

Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Terry Harper wrote:

You've never been to a town with arcades at first floor level then? Or
one
with an overhead tramway/railway system?

Do they regularly try to fit these overhead constructs into existing
narrow streets that are hundreds of years old?

I was thinking of Chester for the first, and Wuppertal or Taipei for the
second.
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
75th Anniversary 2004, see http://www.omnibussoc.org/75th.htm
E-mail:
URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/

Do we need cross-river trams? (Long appendix)
 

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:54:59 -0000, "Paul Weaver"
wrote:

Warrington, when the IRA murdered two innocent kids? Or Manchester, when
they had the "decency" to give a warning and blew half of the city center
up?

And wreck my day, though thankfully it was only inconvenience and a
bit of a shock rather than injury. That said, it did kick off the
much-overdue redevelopment of what was a very unpleasant part of the
city, so the cloud did have somewhat of a silver lining.

Neil

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