Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:


What was actually winding me up, though, was not on-load popups, which
Firefox suppresses very effectively, but target-new links - where you
click on a link and it gives you the target in a new window. This is
completely and utterly wrong, worthless, irritating, unusable, evil,
bad, selfish and generally not on behaviour.


It always seems a good idea to me that links off a site should open a new
window.

In Internet Explorer it's not a terrible idea as opening a link a new
window is an alien concept to many users and involves right-clicking and
choosing the option.

However, in the newer browsers which support tabs (like Firefox) then
opening a new tab with a middle-click is a much more natural browsing
process and auto-opening a new window becomes annoying when you have
mentally set aside single-click as "this tab" and middle-click as "new tab".

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Mrs Redboots wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Jan 2005:


What was actually winding me up, though, was not on-load popups, which
Firefox suppresses very effectively, but target-new links - where you
click on a link and it gives you the target in a new window. This is
completely and utterly wrong, worthless, irritating, unusable, evil, bad,
selfish and generally not on behaviour.

Oh, I disagree - there are lots of times I want a link to open in a new
window - or a new tab, in Firefox - and it doesn't, and then I swear
because I've lost the page I was originally looking at! I'd far rather
that was the default.....

Annabel, if you download the powerful Tab Browser Extensions from
http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/tabextensions/index.html.en then you can
set this amongst a huge host of other preferences to do with how your
tabs and windows work. For example, you can specify that *all* links
open in a new tab, or just links to an external site.

Or is this just me?

As far as I'm concerned, I'm afraid it is! But each to his or her
own....

The beauty of Firefox et al is that extensions are available to
customise to this whole bizarre range of browsing preferences...
personally I sit in the middle and like to pick and choose what I open
in a new window - but I certainly don't want things forcing themselves
into one.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Jan 2005:


Annabel, if you download the powerful Tab Browser Extensions from
http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/tabextensions/index.html.en then you
can set this amongst a huge host of other preferences to do with how
your tabs and windows work. For example, you can specify that *all*
links open in a new tab, or just links to an external site.

Thanks, Dave - in fact, this was not recommended by the Mozilla people,
so I downloaded their recommended one instead:
http://tinyurl.com/5w4qu

The beauty of Firefox et al is that extensions are available to customise
to this whole bizarre range of browsing preferences... personally I sit in
the middle and like to pick and choose what I open in a new window -
but I certainly don't want things forcing themselves into one.

Well, quite.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 January 2005 with new photos

Mrs Redboots wrote:

Thanks, Dave - in fact, this was not recommended by the Mozilla
people, so I downloaded their recommended one instead:
http://tinyurl.com/5w4qu

JFYI, I maintain that extension. If you want additional tab features,
you should add the miniT, Click2Tab, FLST and Undo Close Tab
extensions. All these are more can be had from
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

In Internet Explorer it's not a terrible idea as opening
a link a new window is an alien concept to many users
and involves right-clicking and choosing the option.

No, you hold the shift key down as you left-click on the link.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

TheOneKEA wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Jan 2005:

Mrs Redboots wrote:

Thanks, Dave - in fact, this was not recommended by the Mozilla
people, so I downloaded their recommended one instead:
http://tinyurl.com/5w4qu

JFYI, I maintain that extension. If you want additional tab features,
you should add the miniT, Click2Tab, FLST and Undo Close Tab
extensions. All these are more can be had from
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/

Thank you. I find I am liking Firefox more and more, the more I use it.
Daughter and her fiancé made me download it at first, but I don't think
even they realise some of its features! I've spent several hours this
afternoon playing with it, and really making friends with it. Now all I
have to do is learn to write source code....
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 January 2005 with new photos

John Rowland wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

In Internet Explorer it's not a terrible idea as opening
a link a new window is an alien concept to many users
and involves right-clicking and choosing the option.


No, you hold the shift key down as you left-click on the link.

Oops.

Oh well - middle-clicking is easier, and tabs are easier to use than
windows.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Mrs Redboots wrote:
TheOneKEA wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Jan 2005:


Mrs Redboots wrote:

Thanks, Dave - in fact, this was not recommended by the Mozilla
people, so I downloaded their recommended one instead:
http://tinyurl.com/5w4qu

JFYI, I maintain that extension. If you want additional tab features,
you should add the miniT, Click2Tab, FLST and Undo Close Tab
extensions. All these are more can be had from
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/


Thank you. I find I am liking Firefox more and more, the more I use it.
Daughter and her fiancé made me download it at first, but I don't think
even they realise some of its features! I've spent several hours this
afternoon playing with it, and really making friends with it. Now all I
have to do is learn to write source code....

I've been using it for ages and only this week discovered an extremely
useful feature - type "goto search term" in the address bar and it'll do
a Google I'm Feeling Lucky search on the search term. If you can guess
easily how to bring up a site as the first result, then this is
extremely quick. For example: "goto tfl 2016 map".

You can also add your own keywords to any bookmark, which is again very
useful, so you can quickly access links even if they're not on your
quick links bar. For example, I have the keyword "tfljp" which takes me
directly to TfL's full Journey Planner, rather than the front page of
journeyplanner.org.

Notice how I kept all that vaguely relevant to u.t.l :-)

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Jan 2005:


I've been using it for ages and only this week discovered an extremely
useful feature - type "goto search term" in the address bar and it'll do a
Google I'm Feeling Lucky search on the search term. If you can guess
easily how to bring up a site as the first result, then this is extremely
quick. For example: "goto tfl 2016 map".

And if you happen to want to go to the TFL home page, you just type in
"Transport for London" (without the quotes) and, lo and behold.... The
one that doesn't work is "Live departure boards" as they've moved it!

You can also add your own keywords to any bookmark, which is again
very useful, so you can quickly access links even if they're not on your
quick links bar. For example, I have the keyword "tfljp" which takes me
directly to TfL's full Journey Planner, rather than the front page of
journeyplanner.org.

While that is quicker than typing in "TFL Journey Planner", you can do
that, too, without having to add in a link.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 January 2005 with new photos

Mrs Redboots wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Jan 2005:


I've been using it for ages and only this week discovered an extremely
useful feature - type "goto search term" in the address bar and it'll do a
Google I'm Feeling Lucky search on the search term. If you can guess
easily how to bring up a site as the first result, then this is extremely
quick. For example: "goto tfl 2016 map".


And if you happen to want to go to the TFL home page, you just type in
"Transport for London" (without the quotes) and, lo and behold.... The
one that doesn't work is "Live departure boards" as they've moved it!

I didn't realise it didn't require the "goto"!

You can also add your own keywords to any bookmark, which is again
very useful, so you can quickly access links even if they're not on your
quick links bar. For example, I have the keyword "tfljp" which takes me
directly to TfL's full Journey Planner, rather than the front page of
journeyplanner.org.

While that is quicker than typing in "TFL Journey Planner", you can do
that, too, without having to add in a link.

Firefox + Google = powerful.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London