'Merkin Language (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

... Americans claim to speak

Englsih,

(typographical error left intact)

Is that something like the dialect of Welsh spoken on Anglesey (Island)? ;-)

--
MatSav

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Tom Anderson wrote:
KRISPY KREME.

Ugh, the Starbucks of doughnuts.
--
Michael Hoffman

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

"Brimstone" wrote in message ...
The "memorial", if you want one, is in daily use all over the system. It's
know as "Moorgate Control".

It's actually called TETS Protection (Trains Entering Terminal Stations).

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

In message , Dave Arquati
writes
Would you believe I've been living down the road in South Kensington
for two-and-a-half years and I've still never been to Harrods...
Yes I would.

I've been tourist guiding in London pretty intensively for coming on for
seven years and have set foot in the place twice.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes
In article , Roland
Perry writes
But which version of English? Americans claim to speak Englsih, but insist
on deviating from the original.
Oddly enough, it's British English which has deviated from the
original, while American English has stagnated.

Neither statement is true; both have deviated from Middle English in
various ways, and of course ME is in turn a deviation from Old English.
There are some characteristics - notably pronunciation - where American
has deviated less.

Ask the Dutch: 10th century English (though called Frisian) is an
official language in the Netherlands.
I'm told (although I've never been up there) that the German spoken in
the "Angeln", just South and West of the Danish frontier, is more or
less intelligible to English people with no knowledge of German.

Frisian, which I have heard, I can just about understand, though that's
more due to my knowledge of German and to a lesser extent Dutch, I
think.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Thomas Crame wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...
The "memorial", if you want one, is in daily use all over the
system. It's
know as "Moorgate Control".

It's actually called TETS Protection (Trains Entering Terminal
Stations).

Is that just within LU or in the wider railway operating world as well?

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:54:46 +0000, Dave Arquati wrote:

Would you believe I've been living down the road in South Kensington for
two-and-a-half years and I've still never been to Harrods...

I believe that.

I came to London (to study at IC, as it happens) seven-plus years ago, and
not once have I set foot in Harrods, still less given its odious propietor
any of my money...

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dr John Stockton wrote:

ISO 8601:2000 specifies that the separators are hyphens; it does not
give the Unicode encoding. However, IIRC, a dash is not a hyphen.
Mostly, I expect that Unicode 0045 = ISO-7 45 will be used; that's the
well-known keyboard character commonly used for "minus".

It is also the well-known keyboard character commonly used for "hyphen."
Which is why its official Unicode name is HYPHEN-MINUS. And it is given
in hex, U+002D. U+0045 is LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E.

There are other code points used for exclusively hyphen (U+2010) and
minus (U+2212).
--
Michael Hoffman

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

"James Farrar" wrote in message
news:opslyf0uiywnvjb9@whisk...
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:54:46 +0000, Dave Arquati wrote:

Would you believe I've been living down
the road in South Kensington for two-and-
a-half years and I've still never been to Harrods...

I believe that.

I came to London (to study at IC, as it happens)
seven-plus years ago, and not once have I set foot
in Harrods, still less given its odious propietor
any of my money...

You don't know what you're missing! The Egyptian escalator alone is worth a
visit. Everyone should spend a day exploring Harrods, but don't buy
anything!

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

"John Rowland" wrote:

You don't know what you're missing! The Egyptian escalator alone is worth a
visit. Everyone should spend a day exploring Harrods, but don't buy
anything!

Well, the food courts are worth a few hours as well. The collection of smoked
hams alone are impressive.

'Merkin Language (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

"MatSav" wrote in message
...
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

... Americans claim to speak

Englsih,

(typographical error left intact)

Is that something like the dialect of Welsh spoken on Anglesey (Island)?
;-)


My ability to understand Welsh being limited I couldn't say, but I'd go
along with the idea that English English and American English are different
dialects of the same language.

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

In message , at 13:27:12 on Wed, 9
Feb 2005, Clive D. W. Feather remarked:
There are some characteristics - notably pronunciation - where American
has deviated less.

And spelling.
--
Roland Perry

'Merkin Language (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, MatSav wrote:

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...

... Americans claim to speak

Englsih,

Is that something like the dialect of Welsh spoken on Anglesey (Island)?
;-)

:)

tom

--
I know you wanna try and get away, but it's the hardest thing you'll ever know

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Clark W. Griswold, Jr. wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote:


You don't know what you're missing! The Egyptian escalator alone is worth a
visit. Everyone should spend a day exploring Harrods, but don't buy
anything!


Well, the food courts are worth a few hours as well. The collection of smoked
hams alone are impressive.

I'm in two minds about it now... I am warming to the idea of visiting
and not spending any money. The thing is, I have to make a special
effort to go to Knightsbridge - I only ever pass through it rapidly by
Tube or bus on my way somewhere cheaper...

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Clark W. Griswold, Jr. wrote to uk.transport.london on Wed, 9 Feb 2005:

"John Rowland" wrote:

You don't know what you're missing! The Egyptian escalator alone is worth a
visit. Everyone should spend a day exploring Harrods, but don't buy
anything!

Well, the food courts are worth a few hours as well. The collection of smoked
hams alone are impressive.

Yes, the place isn't a fraction of what it was when I was a small girl,
but the food halls are still wonderful!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 January 2005 with new photos

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dave Arquati wrote:
Clark W. Griswold, Jr. wrote:

"John Rowland" wrote:


You don't know what you're missing! The Egyptian escalator alone is
worth a
visit. Everyone should spend a day exploring Harrods, but don't buy
anything!



Well, the food courts are worth a few hours as well. The collection of
smoked
hams alone are impressive.


I'm in two minds about it now... I am warming to the idea of visiting
and not spending any money. The thing is, I have to make a special
effort to go to Knightsbridge - I only ever pass through it rapidly by
Tube or bus on my way somewhere cheaper...

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of Southside,
along the mews, right to the end where you cut through the archway in
the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to where the Hans Place (?) side of
Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton Oratory.

I used to go there for a few specific things only: (1) cigarettes (no
dearer than anywhere else and they have quite a nice selection) and
Zippo consumables; (2) a specific diary refill that I couldn;t find
anywhere else; (3) a specific brand of perfume/toiletries which I have a
points card for - other stockists don't do this for that brand and
they were always quite generous with the freebies to me too.


[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new style
guide :-)

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of Southside,
along the mews, right to the end where you cut through the archway in
the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to where the Hans Place (?) side of
Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton Oratory.

I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured route
out, of course.

[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new style
guide :-)

Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma! :)

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

James Farrar wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut through
the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to where the Hans
Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton Oratory.


I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured route
out, of course.

[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new style
guide :-)


Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma! :)

To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what I had
to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him. It's the
brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most clueless I find...
(and not just there either...)

'Merkin Language (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

In article ,
(Brimstone) wrote:

My ability to understand Welsh being limited I couldn't say, but I'd go
along with the idea that English English and American English are
different dialects of the same language.

I have to speak both Left- and Right-Pondian English on a daily basis.

They are two different languages, in the same way that Afrikaans and Dutch
are.

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dave Newt wrote:
James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut through
the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton Oratory.

I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.

I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.

[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)

Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma! :)

To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what I had
to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him. It's the
brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most clueless I find...
(and not just there either...)

I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about the comma!

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dave Arquati wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut through
the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.


I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.


I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.

[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)


Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma! :)


To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what I
had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him. It's
the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most clueless I
find... (and not just there either...)


I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about the
comma!


Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

Your sig is non style-compliant - report to Level 3 of the lego building
immediately! :-)

Count yourself lucky anyway - my new workplace also includes font face,
size and colour in the house style for EMAIL. I've tried explaining, but
to no avail. No wonder half my outbound mail goes in the recipients'
spambucket.

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dave Arquati wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:
James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut
through the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to
where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.

I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.

I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.

[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)

Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma! :)

To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what
I had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him.
It's the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most
clueless I find... (and not just there either...)

I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about
the comma!

Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out where
this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an explanation for
the uninitiated?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Richard J. wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Dave Newt wrote:

James Farrar wrote:


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:


It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut
through the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to
where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.

I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.

I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.


[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)

Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma! :)

To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what
I had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him.
It's the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most
clueless I find... (and not just there either...)

I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about
the comma!


Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out where
this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an explanation for
the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC. The
domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be Imperial
College London and that the short version should be Imperial. Use of
..ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT Department had fun trying to
change all the domain servers to .imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College, London,
which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called ICL
and that a comma must not be employed when writing the full name
Imperial College London. (The use of IC is "to be actively discouraged
too".)

Actually, the full name was actually Imperial College of Science,
Technology and Medicine. This name is still to be retained for legal
purposes in some situations.

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise the
profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up Norman Foster
on a new building.

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

Dave Newt wrote:
Richard J. wrote:

Dave Arquati wrote:

Dave Newt wrote:

James Farrar wrote:


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:


It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut
through the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to
where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.


I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.


I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.


[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)


Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma! :)


To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what
I had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him.
It's the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most
clueless I find... (and not just there either...)


I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about
the comma!



Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out where
this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an explanation for
the uninitiated?


It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC. The
domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be Imperial
College London and that the short version should be Imperial. Use of
..ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT Department had fun trying to
change all the domain servers to .imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College, London,
which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called ICL
and that a comma must not be employed when writing the full name
Imperial College London. (The use of IC is "to be actively discouraged
too".)

Actually, the full name was actually Imperial College of Science,
Technology and Medicine. This name is still to be retained for legal
purposes in some situations.

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise the
profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up Norman Foster
on a new building.

That's probably the dirtiest way I've ever heard anyone describe the
Tanaka Building... (which is on Exhibition Road, to keep this slightly
on topic and relate it to that thread).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

Dave Arquati wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise the
profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up Norman
Foster on a new building.


That's probably the dirtiest way I've ever heard anyone describe the
Tanaka Building... (which is on Exhibition Road, to keep this slightly
on topic and relate it to that thread).

Apologies - I did actually tone it down before hitting send. Er, twice. :-)

Have they managed to get all five new doors working simultaneously yet?

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

Have they managed to get all five new doors working simultaneously
yet?

Of course not!

The swipecard front doors are broken and the inner back door doesn't
open fully. I think the only day all 5 sets of doors were working was
when the queen visited.

--
Chris

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

Dave Newt wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out
where this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an
explanation for the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC.
The domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be
Imperial College London and that the short version should be
Imperial. Use of .ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT
Department had fun trying to change all the domain servers to
.imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College,
London, which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

On UCL's site www.ucl.ac.uk, they use UCL as the name almost
exclusively, even in the history ("175 years ago ... UCL was founded").
Where the name is given in full, I haven't seen one instance on their
site where the comma is included.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL

Quite right too. Some of us have fond memories of a company called ICL,
1968-2002.

Thanks very much for the explanation.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

Richard J. wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

Richard J. wrote:

Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out
where this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an
explanation for the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC.
The domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be
Imperial College London and that the short version should be
Imperial. Use of .ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT
Department had fun trying to change all the domain servers to
.imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College,
London, which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.


On UCL's site www.ucl.ac.uk, they use UCL as the name almost
exclusively, even in the history ("175 years ago ... UCL was founded").
Where the name is given in full, I haven't seen one instance on their
site where the comma is included.

You're right - they *must* have changed it. It always was with a comma.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL


Quite right too. Some of us have fond memories of a company called ICL,
1968-2002.

I think it was the "-2002" part of their history that they wanted to
distance themselves from!

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dave Newt wrote the following in:


snip

Blimey, that all sounds a bit complicated. I wonder if the LSE has such
rules, I'm certainly not aware of them.

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise
the profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up
Norman Foster on a new building.

Someone kill that man, he is responsible for the atrocity that is the
central spiral staircase in the LSE library. He also designed the GLA
building which has a similar spiral staircase. Usually the purpose of a
staircase is for people to walk on it, but with the LSE one the main
purpose is so photos of it can be put in university publicity. I firmly
believe that the designer of these things has never tried to walk on
them.

--
message by Robin May.
Drinking Special Brew will get you drunk in much the same way that
going to prison will give you a roof over your head and free meals.

http://robinmay.fotopic.net

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

Richard J. wrote:

Quite right too.Â*Â*SomeÂ*ofÂ*usÂ*haveÂ*fondÂ*memoriesÂ*ofÂ*a *companyÂ*calledÂ*ICL,
1968-2002.

Didn't they bring out a computer based on the QL, called the "One born every
minute" or something?
--
Ian Tindale

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Robin May wrote:
Dave Newt wrote the following in:


snip

Blimey, that all sounds a bit complicated. I wonder if the LSE has such
rules, I'm certainly not aware of them.

Not sure, though I always wonder about the fact that the "...and
Political Science" is hardly ever mentioned, so there must be stuff in
their style guide.

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise
the profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up
Norman Foster on a new building.


Someone kill that man, he is responsible for the atrocity that is the
central spiral staircase in the LSE library.

Oh, I quite liked it, but then I was shown around it a few days before
it, and that was more for the purposes of "look at our new cool thing"
rather than actually trying to get any books.

He also designed the GLA
building which has a similar spiral staircase. Usually the purpose of a
staircase is for people to walk on it, but with the LSE one the main
purpose is so photos of it can be put in university publicity. I firmly
believe that the designer of these things has never tried to walk on
them.

Why is a spiral staircase so hard to walk up anyway? I don't remmeber
LSE's being particularly tricky?

(Though I do know from experience at York that having the main staircase
in the middle of the open building is utter crap for noise levels if you
are trying to work.)

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

In article , (Niklas
Karlsson) wrote:

In article , k wrote:
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:57:05 +0000, Michael Hoffman
wrote:

k wrote:
I use DD MMM which also cannot be misinterpreted.

Unless you speak a language where the months have different names.
Then you will just be extremely confused.

I don't. I speak English. Although our company has offices
throughout the world the "official" language is English. (As its an
American company it would be, after all "everyone speaks English
(American) don't they? :-))

Well, Ericsson, a Swedish-based and -owned multinational, also uses
English as its official language. So I think in practice, in the
business world, everyone really *does* speak English.

Similarly, I've just accepted a job with a small Stockholm-based company
95% staffed by Swedes and 100% owned by them (if I recall); its official
language is also English.

I worked for the Philips concern for many years. The official Concern
language is English, after a fashion. When I worked on a multi-lingual
database project we distinguished Philips English from UK English.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Imperial College (was 02-28-2005 at Moorgate)
 

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL

In my day UCCA called it Limp. :-)

--
Colin Rosenstiel

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

JRS: In article , dated Fri, 11 Feb
2005 13:18:23, seen in news:uk.transport.london, Dave Newt newtonline@R
EMOVEgmail.THIScom posted :

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be Imperial
College London and that the short version should be Imperial. Use of
.ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT Department had fun trying to
change all the domain servers to .imperial.ac.uk.

That seems very stupid.

Do I need to change .ic.ac.uk references on my Web site to
..imperial.ac.uk ?

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02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dave Newt wrote the following in:


Robin May wrote:
Dave Newt wrote the following
in:
To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise
the profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up
Norman Foster on a new building.


Someone kill that man, he is responsible for the atrocity that is
the central spiral staircase in the LSE library.

Oh, I quite liked it, but then I was shown around it a few days
before it, and that was more for the purposes of "look at our new
cool thing" rather than actually trying to get any books.

It looks very nice...

He also designed the GLA
building which has a similar spiral staircase. Usually the
purpose of a staircase is for people to walk on it, but with the
LSE one the main purpose is so photos of it can be put in
university publicity. I firmly believe that the designer of these
things has never tried to walk on them.

Why is a spiral staircase so hard to walk up anyway? I don't
remmeber LSE's being particularly tricky?

The steps on the stairs are set at a distance which is about 1.5 times
that of a normal person's stride. This seems to be true for people of
all heights and leg lengths. No matter who you are there is no way you
can get into a comfortable stride for walking down the stairs, you
always have to do a funny lopsided walk and you have to adjust every
few steps. You end up walking normal step, normal step, short step,
long step, normal step etc. It seems alright at first, but after a
while it becomes incredibly annoying.

(Though I do know from experience at York that having the main
staircase in the middle of the open building is utter crap for
noise levels if you are trying to work.)

Surprisingly, that's not much of an issue. Bookshelves surround the
central staircase and the work areas are behind the bookshelves. The
books seem to do an impressive job of absorbing the noise and the
experience of walking from one end of the shelves to the other and
hearing the noise disappear is very interesting.

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02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Robin May wrote:
Dave Newt wrote the following in:


Why is a spiral staircase so hard to walk up anyway? I don't
remmeber LSE's being particularly tricky?


The steps on the stairs are set at a distance which is about 1.5 times
that of a normal person's stride. This seems to be true for people of
all heights and leg lengths. No matter who you are there is no way you
can get into a comfortable stride for walking down the stairs, you
always have to do a funny lopsided walk and you have to adjust every
few steps. You end up walking normal step, normal step, short step,
long step, normal step etc. It seems alright at first, but after a
while it becomes incredibly annoying.

Ah yes, though aren't the steps "wedge"-shaped? So you can find which
part of the step fits your stride. I'm thinking of the Tube spirals
where the outside is often too big a step, the inside too small, but the
middle is about right. (It's all getting a bit three bears' porridge
now, innit?)

(Though I do know from experience at York that having the main
staircase in the middle of the open building is utter crap for
noise levels if you are trying to work.)


Surprisingly, that's not much of an issue. Bookshelves surround the
central staircase and the work areas are behind the bookshelves. The
books seem to do an impressive job of absorbing the noise and the
experience of walking from one end of the shelves to the other and
hearing the noise disappear is very interesting.

Yes, I noticed that they had more or less managed to avoid that - it was
the first thing I wondered about when I walked in. (Once one of the
Directors had managed to persuade the staff to actually let me go in,
that is!)

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

Dr John Stockton wrote:
JRS: In article , dated Fri, 11 Feb
2005 13:18:23, seen in news:uk.transport.london, Dave Newt newtonline@R
EMOVEgmail.THIScom posted :

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be Imperial
College London and that the short version should be Imperial. Use of
.ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT Department had fun trying to
change all the domain servers to .imperial.ac.uk.


That seems very stupid.

Do I need to change .ic.ac.uk references on my Web site to
.imperial.ac.uk ?

Well, most of the base URLs SHOULD still work, or at least redirect, but
I would check any deep links you have, as most of the web servers have
been replaced too, and many URLs are now awful Oracle CMS-based long
unmemorable things. No guarantee that just changing .ic. to .imperial.
will work at all.

On the other hand, plenty of servers have not changed at all yet...

Suck it n see, I'm afraid!

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

"Brimstone" wrote in message ...
Thomas Crame wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...
The "memorial", if you want one, is in daily use all over the
system. It's
know as "Moorgate Control".

It's actually called TETS Protection (Trains Entering Terminal
Stations).

Is that just within LU or in the wider railway operating world as well?

Pass. TETS is the official designation within LU and all the
Engineering Standards. It's a variation on TES (Trains Entering
Sidings) which pre-dated the Moorgate crash.

02-28-2005 at Moorgate
 

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:07:26 +0000, Dave Arquati wrote:

Dave Newt wrote:
James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut through
the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.

I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.

I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.

I lived in Fisher for a summer. That was bad enough... although it was
mostly the person I was sharing the room with that was the problem!