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In message , at 15:34:53 on Sat, 19 Feb
2005, Dave Arquati remarked: On a slightly serious note, I've found the shuttle bus to be pretty good - it runs all day and connects to the night Thameslink trains too, and there's almost always one waiting to pick up passengers as one doesn't leave until the one behind arrives. As a glass half full/half empty scenario, that means that you can never be sure when the bus will depart as it's always going to depend upon when the next one arrives. -- Roland Perry |
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Dave Arquati wrote:
Michael Hoffman wrote: Dave Arquati wrote: But he does have a point about the all-stations service to Luton; it's not actually faster than the Stansted Express, but at 47 minutes versus 44 or 46 minutes, there's not much of a difference. But... the bus! What about the bus you have to take to get to Luton Airport Parkway? ;-) Actually, it's quite fun standing on the bus winding its way down the hill and round the roundabouts to the station. Fun standing? Oh, God, it's just like those awful cattle trucks that take your to or from your plane when the airline can't (be bothered to pay for the plane to) get to a terminal gate. No thanks, if I'm going to catch a train from the airport, I don't want a fairground ride first. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:34:53 on Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Dave Arquati remarked: On a slightly serious note, I've found the shuttle bus to be pretty good - it runs all day and connects to the night Thameslink trains too, and there's almost always one waiting to pick up passengers as one doesn't leave until the one behind arrives. As a glass half full/half empty scenario, that means that you can never be sure when the bus will depart as it's always going to depend upon when the next one arrives. True. But the wait is only ever up to about 5 minutes anyway, so all that's left is that you can get onto a warm(ish) bus to wait, rather than waiting in the cold. -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
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Richard J. wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote: Michael Hoffman wrote: Dave Arquati wrote: But he does have a point about the all-stations service to Luton; it's not actually faster than the Stansted Express, but at 47 minutes versus 44 or 46 minutes, there's not much of a difference. But... the bus! What about the bus you have to take to get to Luton Airport Parkway? ;-) Actually, it's quite fun standing on the bus winding its way down the hill and round the roundabouts to the station. Fun standing? Oh, God, it's just like those awful cattle trucks that take your to or from your plane when the airline can't (be bothered to pay for the plane to) get to a terminal gate. No thanks, if I'm going to catch a train from the airport, I don't want a fairground ride first. Personally, that 5-minute fairground ride compensates for the hike through Stansted to get from your plane to the train (although I think Gatwick is worse - it seemed to take me about 10 minutes' of speedy walking to get to the station ticket office!). Luton all the way! -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:36:19 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote: Personally, that 5-minute fairground ride compensates for the hike through Stansted to get from your plane to the train (although I think Gatwick is worse - it seemed to take me about 10 minutes' of speedy walking to get to the station ticket office!). There's a lift that saves all of that up-and-down the ramp stuff. Luton all the way! |
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In message , at 14:20:47 on
Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Jason remarked: It doesn't need to be a 500 (or even 300!) yard walk *outdoors* - the majority can be done indoors. Simply cross the St Pancras taxi rank and walk via the King's Cross platforms 9/10/11 building, and then down platform 8 to the Underground entrance. Except there are signs prohibiting it. On one hand it's a bloody cheek, on the other it's private property and they could insist that all passengers walked along the platform naked (to pick a random stupid policy). -- Roland Perry |
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:23:30 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 14:20:47 on Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Jason remarked: It doesn't need to be a 500 (or even 300!) yard walk *outdoors* - the majority can be done indoors. Simply cross the St Pancras taxi rank and walk via the King's Cross platforms 9/10/11 building, and then down platform 8 to the Underground entrance. Except there are signs prohibiting it. On one hand it's a bloody cheek, on the other it's private property and they could insist that all passengers walked along the platform naked (to pick a random stupid policy). Is this a recent development? A week or so back I'd arrived at KX on a number 214 bus northbound, and needed to get to the temporary St Pancras Station. I did roughly the walk that Jason describes above - in the other direction of course - and was surprised to notice signs that the concourse at Kings Cross was only for WAGN and GNER passengers. (Since I use WAGN several times per week I didn't feel any compunction in walking through the concourse... ) Martin |
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They did have a guy outside the side entrance asking you where you were
going when they first started running Thameslink into St Pancras last September. But all you had to say was "Leeds" and he let you through. I found it quite good fun thinking up a new place to pretend I was going to each day, but after a week they stopped asking anyone. Rob Martin Rich wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:23:30 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:20:47 on Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Jason remarked: It doesn't need to be a 500 (or even 300!) yard walk *outdoors* - the majority can be done indoors. Simply cross the St Pancras taxi rank and walk via the King's Cross platforms 9/10/11 building, and then down platform 8 to the Underground entrance. Except there are signs prohibiting it. On one hand it's a bloody cheek, on the other it's private property and they could insist that all passengers walked along the platform naked (to pick a random stupid policy). Is this a recent development? A week or so back I'd arrived at KX on a number 214 bus northbound, and needed to get to the temporary St Pancras Station. I did roughly the walk that Jason describes above - in the other direction of course - and was surprised to notice signs that the concourse at Kings Cross was only for WAGN and GNER passengers. (Since I use WAGN several times per week I didn't feel any compunction in walking through the concourse... ) Martin |
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In article 1109108821.bc433c7d37cdf5de305c31b3e3f112e8@teran ews,
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 14:20:47 on Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Jason remarked: It doesn't need to be a 500 (or even 300!) yard walk *outdoors* - the majority can be done indoors. Simply cross the St Pancras taxi rank and walk via the King's Cross platforms 9/10/11 building, and then down platform 8 to the Underground entrance. Except there are signs prohibiting it. A good thing I didn't notice them when visiting St.P on Tuesday. Otherwise I'd have had to ignore them on general principle, being already miffed at the curtain which, for no apparent reason, stops you getting from the Circle line platforms to the Vic/Northern booking hall. I did notice there is still a sign prohibiting entry in the evening peak to the Circle platforms via the Euston Road steps outside KX. I also noticed that everyone ignores it too ! Nick -- http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself |
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In message , at 07:36:22 on
Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Martin Rich remarked: It doesn't need to be a 500 (or even 300!) yard walk *outdoors* - the majority can be done indoors. Simply cross the St Pancras taxi rank and walk via the King's Cross platforms 9/10/11 building, and then down platform 8 to the Underground entrance. Except there are signs prohibiting it. On one hand it's a bloody cheek, on the other it's private property and they could insist that all passengers walked along the platform naked (to pick a random stupid policy). Is this a recent development? The signs were there from late last year, I think. I made a point of going that way last week, partly to check that I hadn't imagined it, and partly to exercise my right as a holder of a GNER booking for *this* week. The sign says nothing about being a passenger *today*. A week or so back I'd arrived at KX on a number 214 bus northbound, and needed to get to the temporary St Pancras Station. I did roughly the walk that Jason describes above - in the other direction of course - and was surprised to notice signs that the concourse at Kings Cross was only for WAGN and GNER passengers. (Since I use WAGN several times per week I didn't feel any compunction in walking through the concourse... ) As I describe above. -- Roland Perry |
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i own a flat in fulham. I live in venice and so I have the chance to return
home choosing between gatwick and luton. I'd like to know which is the quickiest way. what do you suggest? boezio "Pete" ha scritto nel messaggio ... I'm heading to the Westminster area of London next week and I have the option of flying into either Stanstead or Luton. Which airport has the better rail links to this part of London? By "better" I mean easier/faster and/or cheaper. TIA. |
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:59:10 GMT, severino boezio wrote:
i own a flat in fulham. I live in venice and so I have the chance to return home choosing between gatwick and luton. I'd like to know which is the quickiest way. what do you suggest? District line to Victoria, train to Gatwick. |
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severino boezio wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 6 Mar 2005:
i own a flat in fulham. I live in venice and so I have the chance to return home choosing between gatwick and luton. I'd like to know which is the quickiest way. what do you suggest? Gatwick would be the quickest from Fulham - District Line to Victoria, then direct train (get the Southern service, not the Gatwick Express, which is far more expensive). Luton would be slower because of the "blockade" on the Thameslink service, so you would have to change at Earl's Court or South Kensington to the Piccadilly Line, and then again at King's Cross. -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 4 March 2005 with a new photo |
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Gatwick would be the quickest from Fulham - District Line to Victoria,
then direct train (get the Southern service, not the Gatwick Express, which is far more expensive). Or even get the direct Southern service from West Brompton. |
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asdf wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 7 Mar 2005:
Gatwick would be the quickest from Fulham - District Line to Victoria, then direct train (get the Southern service, not the Gatwick Express, which is far more expensive). Or even get the direct Southern service from West Brompton. I had totally forgotten that one! Shows how long it is since I used that area regularly. But direct trains are only about once an hour, otherwise it is changing at Clapham Junction. Which may or may not be a problem for the OP, depending on how much luggage he or she has. -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 4 March 2005 with a new photo |
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On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:55:57 +0000, Mrs Redboots
wrote: severino boezio wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 6 Mar 2005: i own a flat in fulham. I live in venice and so I have the chance to return home choosing between gatwick and luton. I'd like to know which is the quickiest way. what do you suggest? Gatwick would be the quickest from Fulham - District Line to Victoria, then direct train (get the Southern service, not the Gatwick Express, which is far more expensive). If you get the time right, changing at West Brompton onto the Watford Junction-Brighton service would be a lot quicker. Cross-platform change only, It only runs once an hour at xx.39, Doesn't run on Sundays, though. -- Terry Harper Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org |
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thank You to everyone
boezio "severino boezio" ha scritto nel messaggio ... i own a flat in fulham. I live in venice and so I have the chance to return home choosing between gatwick and luton. I'd like to know which is the quickiest way. what do you suggest? boezio "Pete" ha scritto nel messaggio ... I'm heading to the Westminster area of London next week and I have the option of flying into either Stanstead or Luton. Which airport has the better rail links to this part of London? By "better" I mean easier/faster and/or cheaper. TIA. |
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It's not that bad - it's mostly indoors to the tube if you go through
King's Cross Suburban station. |
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In message .com, at
08:30:55 on Tue, 8 Mar 2005, James remarked: It's not that bad - it's mostly indoors to the tube if you go through King's Cross Suburban station. Except you are banned from doing that. Signs say you can only enter the station that way if you are a GN or GNER customer. (Although they don't say "a GN or GNER customer *today*"). -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry wrote: In message .com, at 08:30:55 on Tue, 8 Mar 2005, James remarked: It's not that bad - it's mostly indoors to the tube if you go through King's Cross Suburban station. Except you are banned from doing that. Signs say you can only enter the station that way if you are a GN or GNER customer. (Although they don't say "a GN or GNER customer *today*"). -- Roland Perry Except I've never been challenged... anyway, how else am I meant to get to the GNER booking office, nudge, nudge, wink, wink? |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message .com, at 08:30:55 on Tue, 8 Mar 2005, James remarked: It's not that bad - it's mostly indoors to the tube if you go through King's Cross Suburban station. Except you are banned from doing that. Signs say you can only enter the station that way if you are a GN or GNER customer. (Although they don't say "a GN or GNER customer *today*"). Er, what about Hull Trains customers? -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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In message , at 01:27:17
on Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Richard J. remarked: It's not that bad - it's mostly indoors to the tube if you go through King's Cross Suburban station. Except you are banned from doing that. Signs say you can only enter the station that way if you are a GN or GNER customer. (Although they don't say "a GN or GNER customer *today*"). Er, what about Hull Trains customers? I would have to check the notice more carefully. Perhaps someone else might get there before me (it will be several weeks I think) and report back. -- Roland Perry |
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 21:39:41 +0000, Roland Perry wrote:
Signs say you can only enter the station that way if you are a GN or GNER customer. But is there anything apart from the sign to enforce it? -- (the changing appearance of 73 109...) http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9680069.html (1981, Rail blue) http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9680070.html (1991, NSE livery) http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9680071.html (1998, SWT livery) |
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In message , at 12:54:05 on
Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Chris Tolley remarked: Signs say you can only enter the station that way if you are a GN or GNER customer. But is there anything apart from the sign to enforce it? No actual people doing the enforcing when I've been there - but that's always been off-peak. As a general rule, I think un-enforced restrictions like that are a big problem, because people don't really believe they exist, and therefore don't complain about them. Until suddenly, one day... -- Roland Perry |
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