E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

There would be four changes I would make:

(snip)

3. 197 - Norwood Junction - East Croydon. I can't see the point of such a
short route. I'd extend this to Thornton Heath.

(snip)

The point, I suppose, is to provide a service for the Morland Road and
Woodside Green areas. Just out of interest, what route would it take to
Thornton Heath? Even if it was made into a single-decker service, to get
under the railway bridge at Portland Road, it would have to take a
roundabout route to reach Thornton Heath.

--
John Ray

Ian Jelf wrote:
writes

RV1 - run it with those fake heritage tram ye olde stylee buses you
find in foreign cities to amuse the tourists

How about using RMs on it instead?

How about using RMs on busy routes instead???

As for the RV1, I think the existing buses are as good as anything else
at the moment, but in the future they should consider options such as
battery electric buses.

E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?

In the Sidcup/St.Paul's Cray area:

Extend route R1 to Footscray Tesco
Abolish route R11, increase frequency on B14
Introduce new route (with "mobility bus" type vehicles): One way loop
from FootsCray Tesco to North Cray, FootsCray, Sidcup Hill, Sidcup,
Queen Mary's Hospital, back to Tesco. This would mean that nobody would
lose their one seat ride to QMH and it would reduce parking requirements
at Tesco (provision is inadequate unless they've made some big changes
in the last 16 months) though some slight road alterations (or a second
exit) would still be needed there, as exiting traffic can't turn right.

I'd also make some changes around Orpington, but until I find the
current map, I can't tell you what.

John Ray wrote:
E. Zackatackali wrote:

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you
do?

There would be four changes I would make:

(snip)

3. 197 - Norwood Junction - East Croydon. I can't see the point of
such a short route. I'd extend this to Thornton Heath.

(snip)

The point, I suppose, is to provide a service for the Morland Road and
Woodside Green areas. Just out of interest, what route would it take
to Thornton Heath? Even if it was made into a single-decker service,
to get under the railway bridge at Portland Road, it would have to
take a roundabout route to reach Thornton Heath.

It would be extended from East Croydon via George Street, Wellesley Road,
Poplar Walk and London Road to Thornton Heath Pond.

EZ

John Rowland wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...

There will be a need for a service across the Lower Lea
Crossing once the new Leamouth footbridge is constructed.


Why does builiding a new footbridge create a new bus demand?

Because the footbridge links the Leamouth peninsula with the Lower Lea
Crossing (and ultimately with Canning Town station). It will be the
nearest main road to the peninsula which should see some regeneration
once the basic pedestrian links are in place. Currently the nearest bus
stops are the 277 at the far end of Saffron Avenue near East India or
the 115 from next to the Travelodge on East India Dock Road.

For anyone who's interested:
http://www.leamouthbridge.com
http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/72

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

In message , Aidan Stanger
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:
writes

RV1 - run it with those fake heritage tram ye olde stylee buses you
find in foreign cities to amuse the tourists

How about using RMs on it instead?

How about using RMs on busy routes instead???
Well, yes I agree with you wholeheartedly but I think we've done that
one to death somewhat! ;-)

there is also much to be said for having RMs on a recognisably
"heritage" route. Not the commentary-equipped sightseeing ones but
something covering the central sections of the 11, 9 or 15, for example.

The 15 needs all the buses it can get, anyway, especially on District
Line Closure weekends but also generally. Some of you may remember my
postings here some months ago about the overcrowding on the route
to/from the Tower. This is something I've experienced several times
again since.......

As for the RV1, I think the existing buses are as good as anything else
at the moment, but in the future they should consider options such as
battery electric buses.
Well, when the route was inaugurated, I thought that the GPs-operated
information screens about nearby attractions were a really great,
innovative idea. I even heard many favourable comments from visitors
using the route. But they seem to have fallen out of use (and some
distinctly "ordinary" vehicles appear on the route nowadays in any
case).
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

In message , Aidan Stanger
writes
Extend route R1 to Footscray Tesco

When I first saw this, I read it as extending the *RV1" to Footscray.
Now *that* would have been some route!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...

there is also much to be said for having
RMs on a recognisably "heritage" route.

There should be some double deckers over Tower Bridge.
Crossing it in a single decker is no fun.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

James wrote:
"E. Zackatackali" wrote in message ...

If you had the power to add/change/remove bus routes, what would you do?


N77 - extend it along the 406 route to Epsom


Eeeek. No thanks! The N77 is unreliable enough as it is, and at weekends
it can take a few buses before you can actually squeeze onto one!

Steve

E. Zackatackali wrote:

It would be extended from East Croydon via George Street, Wellesley Road,
Poplar Walk and London Road to Thornton Heath Pond.

Ah. When you said you would "extend" it, I thought you meant that it
would continue on from Norwood Junction to Thornton Heath. What you are
now describing is a diversion, i.e. it will no longer call at Norwood
Junction.

--
John Ray