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"Jack Taylor" wrote in message
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"Marratxi" wrote in message
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Sorry to be ignorant but could somebody please tell me more about Palace
Gates ? Where, when, etc.
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...es/index.shtml
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/rep...p?compid=26984
(towards the bottom, above the footnotes)
http://encyclopedia.lockergnome.com/...ace_Gates_Line

Thanks, Jack !!
Baz

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"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:27:08 +0100, Marratxi wrote:

Sorry to be ignorant but could somebody please tell me more about Palace
Gates ? Where, when, etc.
Palace as in Alexandra Palace.
Stratford LL-Palace Gates passenger service withdrawn 1963.
Seven Sisters - Palace Gates route closed end 1964.

Thanks, Chris. I thought it had to be Ally Pally but didn't know that the
NLL had gone anywhere near there or maybe I just completely misread the
thread.
Regardz,
Baz
http://mysite.freeserve.com/MajorcaRailways

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"Marratxi" wrote in message
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"Chris Tolley" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:27:08 +0100, Marratxi wrote:

Sorry to be ignorant but could somebody please tell me more about
Palace
Gates ? Where, when, etc.
Palace as in Alexandra Palace.
Stratford LL-Palace Gates passenger service withdrawn 1963.
Seven Sisters - Palace Gates route closed end 1964.

Thanks, Chris. I thought it had to be Ally Pally but didn't know that the
NLL had gone anywhere near there or maybe I just completely misread the
thread.

The NLL as it exists today didn't go near Ally Pally. However until the
early 60s it consisted of two separate lines: Richmond to Broad Street via
Dalton Junction and Palace Gates to North Woolwich via Stratford LL - I
presume the latter went through South Tottenham and Lea Bridge.

Was there a service between Dalston and Stratford (the missing link that is
now part of the NLL) during the time that the Palace Gates service was
running, or even after the Palace Gates branch closed in 63 but before Broad
Street closed in the early 80s? Or did the Dalston-Stratford link only
"open" as a result of Broad Street - Dalston closing?

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In article ,
(Martin Underwood) wrote:

Was there a service between Dalston and Stratford (the missing link
that is now part of the NLL) during the time that the Palace Gates
service was running, or even after the Palace Gates branch closed in 63
but before Broad Street closed in the early 80s? Or did the
Dalston-Stratford link only "open" as a result of Broad Street -
Dalston closing?

I think that line closed to passengers in the war and that it was only
reopened when the service to Broad St was diverted.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On 17 Apr 2005 00:05:51 -0700, Stephen Furley wrote:

It did close during the war, but re-opened before the closure of Broad
Street. At first it operated as a DMU service between Camden Road
and North Woolwich.

Presumably that's why there's bunting on the dmu in this picture?

http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13857564.html

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Chris Tolley wrote in message ...
On 17 Apr 2005 00:05:51 -0700, Stephen Furley wrote:

It did close during the war, but re-opened before the closure of Broad
Street. At first it operated as a DMU service between Camden Road
and North Woolwich.

Presumably that's why there's bunting on the dmu in this picture?

http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13857564.html

That date sounds about right for the opening of the Camden Road
service, and it was worked by Cravens 105 units from Stratford depot.

I first did the journey soon after the new service started, and once
we got past Stratford Low Level, or maybe West Ham it was really
strange. The whole area was a vast wasteland, with derelict buildings
and long disused rail sidings all over the place. At Silvertown the
old tramway still converged from the south, with a gated level
crossing, the crossing gates were still there not long ago. This line
was no longer a through route, it served Wards scrapyard, and I think
one other site. The old swing bridge over one of the channels between
two of the dock basins was still in place. The whole area really has
changed totally since then.

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In article .com,
Rupert Candy writes
This is truly obscure, but I couldn't resist posting it - I was in
Stockholm earlier this week and was flabbergasted to find, attached to
the ceiling of an "English pub" (which is incidentally a very common
beast there) a NSE-era (ie blue and white) line diagram from Watford
Junction,

Not quite as obscure, but tidying my desk the other day I found a
British Rail map of London services dating from 1965.

Broad Street is shown as connecting to Richmond, via Dalston Junction,
Camden Road, and Gospel Oak "for Highgate". There are also peak hour
links from Camden Road to South Hampstead via Primrose Hill, and from
Dalston Junction to Finsbury Park.

There are also peak hour links from Kentish Town and Finsbury Park to
Moorgate via King's Cross (Met.), Farringdon, and Aldersgate.

Among the "local services" are
* Cheshunt to Stratford via Angel Road, Tottenham (not "Hale"), and Lea
Bridge
* Stratford to North Woolwich
* Kentish Town to Barking via Upper Holloway, Crouch Hill, and South
Tottenham
* Welwyn Garden City to Dunstable North with intermediate stations at
Wheathampstead, Harpenden East, Luton Hoo, Luton Bute Street, and
Dunstable Town.

From Watford Junction the trains ran to Euston, with peak hour services
to Croxley Green from both WJ and Bushey & Oxhey.

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Marratxi wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 15 Apr 2005:


Thanks, Chris. I thought it had to be Ally Pally but didn't know that the
NLL had gone anywhere near there or maybe I just completely misread the
thread.

There's still a station called Alexandra Palace, and you can get a WAGN
train to it from Moorgate or King's Cross - you do have to walk up the
hill to get to the ice rink, though, or catch a bus (W3 or W5, I think,
but I can't remember what).
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"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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Marratxi wrote to uk.transport.london on Fri, 15 Apr 2005:


Thanks, Chris. I thought it had to be Ally Pally but didn't know that the
NLL had gone anywhere near there or maybe I just completely misread the
thread.

There's still a station called Alexandra Palace, and you can get a WAGN
train to it from Moorgate or King's Cross - you do have to walk up the
hill to get to the ice rink, though, or catch a bus (W3 or W5, I think,
but I can't remember what).

W3...
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Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.