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I make the trip over from the US about once a year, and I have always
relied on a bookmark I had saved for a company who does transfers from Heathrow to the London Hotels, that bookedmark like is no longer good and I am at a lost tryng to find a company that handles this as I understand the tube is really not working at T4 so I don't know if I want to just take the Express into Paddington or keep looking for the stuttle. Anyone have any ideas? What does a 7 day tube pass cost this year? Thanks TheMiz |
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writes I make the trip over from the US about once a year, and I have always relied on a bookmark I had saved for a company who does transfers from Heathrow to the London Hotels, that bookedmark like is no longer good and I am at a lost tryng to find a company that handles this If this is the old A2 airbus to Russell Square, the service was withdrawn a few months ago. as I understand the tube is really not working at T4 so I don't know if I want to just take the Express into Paddington or keep looking for the stuttle. Anyone have any ideas? It depends on where your hotel is. If it is close to a Piccadilly line station, then it will probably be easiest and certainly cheaper to take the replacement bus service from T4 to the Piccadilly line at Hatton Cross. Buses run every 5 minutes and add 5-10 minutes to the journey time. Apparently there are staff to help with luggage. What does a 7 day tube pass cost this year? http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2005/ -- Paul Terry |
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"TheMiz" wrote in message
... Anyone have any ideas? The best way from T4 at the moment, George, is really to take the heathrow Express into Paddington and then continue from there by tube, bus or cab. Cost is UKP14 single or 26 return. If you want to take the tube, you can either do as Paul suggests and take the bus servbice to Hatton Cross, or you can take the Heathrow Express (free) from T4 to T3 and start your tube journey there. Ian |
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Think I will take the express to Paddington
then hop the tube to the Kennsington station Thanks Guys Ian F. wrote: "TheMiz" wrote in message ... Anyone have any ideas? The best way from T4 at the moment, George, is really to take the heathrow Express into Paddington and then continue from there by tube, bus or cab. Cost is UKP14 single or 26 return. If you want to take the tube, you can either do as Paul suggests and take the bus servbice to Hatton Cross, or you can take the Heathrow Express (free) from T4 to T3 and start your tube journey there. Ian |
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"TheMiz" wrote in message ... Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station Thanks Guys If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). Regards David Bennetts |
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David Bennetts wrote:
"TheMiz" wrote in message ... Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station Thanks Guys If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Not much in it. Both routes have a walk between HEx and the Underground. Both involve a wait of up to 15 minutes for HEx at T4. Quicker? Not necessarily according to TfL's Journey Planner. Your route takes 53-73 minutes including waiting times. Via Paddington, it's 44-67 minutes. Taking the dedicated bus from T4 to Hatton Cross and the Piccadilly Line would reduce the overall time to 40-50 minutes. Also, there's not much point in changing to the District at Barons Court as the Piccadilly also goes to South Kensington, and there are fewer steps to climb from the Picc to street level (plus escalators of course). -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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That does sound rather good! I know my way once I get to South Kensington just about a 4 block walk up to Queensway! Any thoughts on a 7 day London Pass ? Thanks again for all the help TheMiz Richard J. wrote: David Bennetts wrote: "TheMiz" wrote in message ... Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station Thanks Guys If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Not much in it. Both routes have a walk between HEx and the Underground. Both involve a wait of up to 15 minutes for HEx at T4. Quicker? Not necessarily according to TfL's Journey Planner. Your route takes 53-73 minutes including waiting times. Via Paddington, it's 44-67 minutes. Taking the dedicated bus from T4 to Hatton Cross and the Piccadilly Line would reduce the overall time to 40-50 minutes. Also, there's not much point in changing to the District at Barons Court as the Piccadilly also goes to South Kensington, and there are fewer steps to climb from the Picc to street level (plus escalators of course). |
Any thoughts on the London Pass ?
TheMiz wrote:
Richard J. wrote: David Bennetts wrote: "TheMiz" wrote in message ... Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Not much in it. Both routes have a walk between HEx and the Underground. Both involve a wait of up to 15 minutes for HEx at T4. Quicker? Not necessarily according to TfL's Journey Planner. Your route takes 53-73 minutes including waiting times. Via Paddington, it's 44-67 minutes. Taking the dedicated bus from T4 to Hatton Cross and the Piccadilly Line would reduce the overall time to 40-50 minutes. Also, there's not much point in changing to the District at Barons Court as the Piccadilly also goes to South Kensington, and there are fewer steps to climb from the Picc to street level (plus escalators of course). That does sound rather good! I know my way once I get to South Kensington just about a 4 block walk up to Queensway! But Queensway is the other side of Kensington Gardens from South Kensington, a distance of more than 1 mile. If you can tell us where your hotel is (hotel name/road, or postcode), we can refine the transport advice. Any thoughts on a 7 day London Pass ? According to their website www.londonpass.com, you can buy one for 1,2,3 or 6 days, not 7. It's only worth it, in my view, if you're going to spend all your time visiting the attractions listed on their site. Note that in very small print it says that they will add 17.5% tax (meaning VAT, I assume) to the quoted prices. Presenting consumer prices in this way is not regarded as good practice in the UK. If you get one with travel included, you will pay £38 (including tax*) for the travel element, covering Zones 1-6. A 7-Day Travelcard for Zones 1-2, where all the main tourist attractions are, is £21.40. * VAT is not payable on public transport fares, so I don't see how they can justify this. I've mailed them (the Leisure Pass Group) about this. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Richard J. wrote: TheMiz wrote: Richard J. wrote: David Bennetts wrote: "TheMiz" wrote in message ... Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Not much in it. Both routes have a walk between HEx and the Underground. Both involve a wait of up to 15 minutes for HEx at T4. Quicker? Not necessarily according to TfL's Journey Planner. Your route takes 53-73 minutes including waiting times. Via Paddington, it's 44-67 minutes. Taking the dedicated bus from T4 to Hatton Cross and the Piccadilly Line would reduce the overall time to 40-50 minutes. Also, there's not much point in changing to the District at Barons Court as the Piccadilly also goes to South Kensington, and there are fewer steps to climb from the Picc to street level (plus escalators of course). That does sound rather good! I know my way once I get to South Kensington just about a 4 block walk up to Queensway! But Queensway is the other side of Kensington Gardens from South Kensington, a distance of more than 1 mile. If you can tell us where your hotel is (hotel name/road, or postcode), we can refine the transport advice. Any thoughts on a 7 day London Pass ? According to their website www.londonpass.com, you can buy one for 1,2,3 or 6 days, not 7. It's only worth it, in my view, if you're going to spend all your time visiting the attractions listed on their site. Note that in very small print it says that they will add 17.5% tax (meaning VAT, I assume) to the quoted prices. Presenting consumer prices in this way is not regarded as good practice in the UK. If you get one with travel included, you will pay £38 (including tax*) for the travel element, covering Zones 1-6. A 7-Day Travelcard for Zones 1-2, where all the main tourist attractions are, is £21.40. * VAT is not payable on public transport fares, so I don't see how they can justify this. I've mailed them (the Leisure Pass Group) about this. OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate |
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Richard J. wrote: TheMiz wrote: Richard J. wrote: David Bennetts wrote: "TheMiz" wrote in message ... Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Not much in it. Both routes have a walk between HEx and the Underground. Both involve a wait of up to 15 minutes for HEx at T4. Quicker? Not necessarily according to TfL's Journey Planner. Your route takes 53-73 minutes including waiting times. Via Paddington, it's 44-67 minutes. Taking the dedicated bus from T4 to Hatton Cross and the Piccadilly Line would reduce the overall time to 40-50 minutes. Also, there's not much point in changing to the District at Barons Court as the Piccadilly also goes to South Kensington, and there are fewer steps to climb from the Picc to street level (plus escalators of course). That does sound rather good! I know my way once I get to South Kensington just about a 4 block walk up to Queensway! But Queensway is the other side of Kensington Gardens from South Kensington, a distance of more than 1 mile. If you can tell us where your hotel is (hotel name/road, or postcode), we can refine the transport advice. Any thoughts on a 7 day London Pass ? According to their website www.londonpass.com, you can buy one for 1,2,3 or 6 days, not 7. It's only worth it, in my view, if you're going to spend all your time visiting the attractions listed on their site. Note that in very small print it says that they will add 17.5% tax (meaning VAT, I assume) to the quoted prices. Presenting consumer prices in this way is not regarded as good practice in the UK. If you get one with travel included, you will pay £38 (including tax*) for the travel element, covering Zones 1-6. A 7-Day Travelcard for Zones 1-2, where all the main tourist attractions are, is £21.40. * VAT is not payable on public transport fares, so I don't see how they can justify this. I've mailed them (the Leisure Pass Group) about this. I should have said Travelcard ! |
Any thoughts on the London Pass ?
Richard J. wrote: TheMiz wrote: Richard J. wrote: David Bennetts wrote: "TheMiz" wrote in message ... Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). Cheaper? Yes. Easier? Not much in it. Both routes have a walk between HEx and the Underground. Both involve a wait of up to 15 minutes for HEx at T4. Quicker? Not necessarily according to TfL's Journey Planner. Your route takes 53-73 minutes including waiting times. Via Paddington, it's 44-67 minutes. Taking the dedicated bus from T4 to Hatton Cross and the Piccadilly Line would reduce the overall time to 40-50 minutes. Also, there's not much point in changing to the District at Barons Court as the Piccadilly also goes to South Kensington, and there are fewer steps to climb from the Picc to street level (plus escalators of course). That does sound rather good! I know my way once I get to South Kensington just about a 4 block walk up to Queensway! But Queensway is the other side of Kensington Gardens from South Kensington, a distance of more than 1 mile. If you can tell us where your hotel is (hotel name/road, or postcode), we can refine the transport advice. Any thoughts on a 7 day London Pass ? According to their website www.londonpass.com, you can buy one for 1,2,3 or 6 days, not 7. It's only worth it, in my view, if you're going to spend all your time visiting the attractions listed on their site. Note that in very small print it says that they will add 17.5% tax (meaning VAT, I assume) to the quoted prices. Presenting consumer prices in this way is not regarded as good practice in the UK. If you get one with travel included, you will pay £38 (including tax*) for the travel element, covering Zones 1-6. A 7-Day Travelcard for Zones 1-2, where all the main tourist attractions are, is £21.40. * VAT is not payable on public transport fares, so I don't see how they can justify this. I've mailed them (the Leisure Pass Group) about this. I was looking on www.londontravelpass.com |
Any thoughts on the London Pass ?
In message , TheMiz
writes OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate In that case your hotel is less than 500 yards from the Piccadilly line at South Kensington Station. By far the best route is to take the Piccadilly line direct to South Kensington - I would still recommend taking the bus replacement from Terminal 4 to the Piccadilly line station at Hatton Cross, but taking a free ride from T4 to Terminal 1-3 at Heathrow, and joining the Piccadilly line there, is an alternative. Whichever you do, taking the Heathrow Express all the way to Paddington would be an expensive mistake that would take you well out of your way. The Piccadilly line is far more direct. -- Paul Terry |
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TheMiz wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 3 Apr 2005:
Think I will take the express to Paddington then hop the tube to the Kennsington station That is rather going round 2 sides of a triangle if you are going to South Kensington, it is a direct run on the Underground. If you are going to Kensington High Street, it is still slightly 2 sides of a triangle, but rather less so! -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 3 April 2005 |
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David Bennetts wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 4 Apr 2005:
If you're going to South Kensington it'll be far cheaper, easier and probably quicker to get the Heathrow Express to Terminals 1,2,3 (free) and change to the Picadilly Line tube there. Then change to a district line train at Barons Court (across platform connection). No need to change - Piccadilly Line stops at South Ken too! -- "Mrs Redboots" http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/ Website updated 3 April 2005 |
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TheMiz wrote [in three different posts!]:
OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate Right, then South Ken is OK. I should have said Travelcard ! I was looking on www.londontravelpass.com The choice is between buying a 7-day Visitor Travelcard before you leave (Zones 1-6, £38.30) or buying tickets in London. Most visitors spend all their time in zones 1 and 2, and only go outside them for the journeys to and from Heathrow (zone 6). For that, you could buy at Heathrow a single zone6-to-zone2 ticket and a 7-day zones 1-2 Travelcard for a total of £23.50. You would then need to buy on your last day a "zone extension ticket" extending the validity of your Travelcard through to Heathrow, which I think would be £2.10. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Richard J. wrote: TheMiz wrote [in three different posts!]: OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate Right, then South Ken is OK. I should have said Travelcard ! I was looking on www.londontravelpass.com The choice is between buying a 7-day Visitor Travelcard before you leave (Zones 1-6, £38.30) or buying tickets in London. Most visitors spend all their time in zones 1 and 2, and only go outside them for the journeys to and from Heathrow (zone 6). For that, you could buy at Heathrow a single zone6-to-zone2 ticket and a 7-day zones 1-2 Travelcard for a total of £23.50. You would then need to buy on your last day a "zone extension ticket" extending the validity of your Travelcard through to Heathrow, which I think would be £2.10. RichardJ Seems like every time I come over and just buy the Zone 1 and 2 pass I end up one day in Richmond another in Enfield and another in Barnet That is not counting the travel from Heathrow What zone is Heathrow in ? As Always Thanks TheMiz |
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TheMiz wrote:
Richard J. wrote: The choice is between buying a 7-day Visitor Travelcard before you leave (Zones 1-6, £38.30) or buying tickets in London. Most visitors spend all their time in zones 1 and 2, and only go outside them for the journeys to and from Heathrow (zone 6). For that, you could buy at Heathrow a single zone6-to-zone2 ticket and a 7-day zones 1-2 Travelcard for a total of £23.50. You would then need to buy on your last day a "zone extension ticket" extending the validity of your Travelcard through to Heathrow, which I think would be £2.10. RichardJ Seems like every time I come over and just buy the Zone 1 and 2 pass I end up one day in Richmond another in Enfield and another in Barnet That is not counting the travel from Heathrow What zone is Heathrow in ? Zone 6. There's a map of the zones at http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/tubem...onnections.pdf -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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TheMiz wrote: OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate If you're going to somewhere on Queens Gate I would suggesting getting off the tube at Glouster Road. You could get the Picidilly line all the way (and go up a few steps and a lift) in Glouster Road. Theres less steps from the Pic than the District at Glouster Road |
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Richard J. wrote: According to their website www.londonpass.com, you can buy one for 1,2,3 or 6 days, not 7. It's only worth it, in my view, if you're going to spend all your time visiting the attractions listed on their site. Note that in very small print it says that they will add 17.5% tax (meaning VAT, I assume) to the quoted prices. Presenting consumer prices in this way is not regarded as good practice in the UK. If you get one with travel included, you will pay £38 (including tax*) for the travel element, covering Zones 1-6. A 7-Day Travelcard for Zones 1-2, where all the main tourist attractions are, is £21.40. * VAT is not payable on public transport fares, so I don't see how they can justify this. I've mailed them (the Leisure Pass Group) about this. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) According to Trading Standards it is infact a criminal offence to show a price to the a consumer which does not include VAT (except in some circumstances). See http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/c...dv087-0100.txt and http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2004/20040102.htm I like their insurance policy - they charge 2.5% extra and if you don't go they refund you the money minus a re-stocking fee. How can you re-stock something which has a specified date on it? And who is going to fall for that insurance policy anyway (don't most tourists have insurance for their holidays which includes being insured against not going) |
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Richard J. wrote: http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/c...dv087-0100.txt and http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2004/20040102.htm Those references don't seem to define "product" but they exempt "products which are supplied in the course of the provision of a service". Perhaps the London Pass comes comes under this exemption, Ah but they charge a re-stocking fee if the ticket is returned. You can't restock a service, can you? |
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TheMiz wrote: wrote: TheMiz wrote: OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate If you're going to somewhere on Queens Gate I would suggesting getting off the tube at Glouster Road. You could get the Picidilly line all the way (and go up a few steps and a lift) in Glouster Road. Theres less steps from the Pic than the District at Glouster Road Thanks You But I think it is much shorter for me to get off at South Kensington its only about a 3 minute walk up Old Brompton Road ( corner of Old Brompton Road and Queens Gate) South Kensington is further away from 100 Queens Gate than Gloucester Road (yes the tube stations are really that close together) |
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Richard J. wrote: wrote: TheMiz wrote: OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate If you're going to somewhere on Queens Gate I would suggesting getting off the tube at Glouster Road. You could get the Picidilly line all the way (and go up a few steps and a lift) in Glouster Road. Theres less steps from the Pic than the District at Glouster Road If you are trying to help overseas visitors, it does help to spell the station names correctly. It's Gloucester Road, and it's actually slightly further from the hotel than South Kensington. Sorry about the spelling. Theres not much in it distance wise but multimap reckons Gloucester Road is the closest: http://uk.multimap.com/map/browse.cg...tion&nolocal=X |
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Richard J. wrote: wrote: TheMiz wrote: OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate If you're going to somewhere on Queens Gate I would suggesting getting off the tube at Glouster Road. You could get the Picidilly line all the way (and go up a few steps and a lift) in Glouster Road. Theres less steps from the Pic than the District at Glouster Road If you are trying to help overseas visitors, it does help to spell the station names correctly. It's Gloucester Road, and it's actually slightly further from the hotel than South Kensington. Sorry about the spelling. Theres not much in it distance wise but multimap reckons Gloucester Road is the closest: http://uk.multimap.com/map/browse.cg...tion&nolocal=X I think you missed the bit that says "These locations are nearest as the crow flies, but may not be nearest by road." But we're only talking about 100 metres, so let's move on. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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TheMiz wrote: wrote: TheMiz wrote: OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate If you're going to somewhere on Queens Gate I would suggesting getting off the tube at Glouster Road. You could get the Picidilly line all the way (and go up a few steps and a lift) in Glouster Road. Theres less steps from the Pic than the District at Glouster Road Thanks You But I think it is much shorter for me to get off at South Kensington its only about a 3 minute walk up Old Brompton Road ( corner of Old Brompton Road and Queens Gate) South Kensington is further away from 100 Queens Gate than Gloucester Road (yes the tube stations are really that close together) If it's the hotel I know at the corner of Old Brompton Road and Queen's Gate, then South Kensington is definitely nearer, no matter what Multimap says. The walk from Gloucester Road is indirect whereas the walk from South Kensington is very direct; as the crow flies it may be nearer to Gloucester Road, but the walking distance from South Ken is shorter. Of course, this is rather pedantic as it's probably only the difference a few metres. If the OP is familiar with the walk from South Ken station then that's a good reason in itself to walk from there. -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
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Dave Arquati wrote: wrote: TheMiz wrote: wrote: TheMiz wrote: OPPS sorry its 100 Queen's Gate If you're going to somewhere on Queens Gate I would suggesting getting off the tube at Glouster Road. You could get the Picidilly line all the way (and go up a few steps and a lift) in Glouster Road. Theres less steps from the Pic than the District at Glouster Road Thanks You But I think it is much shorter for me to get off at South Kensington its only about a 3 minute walk up Old Brompton Road ( corner of Old Brompton Road and Queens Gate) South Kensington is further away from 100 Queens Gate than Gloucester Road (yes the tube stations are really that close together) If it's the hotel I know at the corner of Old Brompton Road and Queen's Gate, then South Kensington is definitely nearer, no matter what Multimap says. The walk from Gloucester Road is indirect whereas the walk from South Kensington is very direct; as the crow flies it may be nearer to Gloucester Road, but the walking distance from South Ken is shorter. Of course, this is rather pedantic as it's probably only the difference a few metres. If the OP is familiar with the walk from South Ken station then that's a good reason in itself to walk from there. This will be my 4th year of staying at this hotel and since I know my way I will get there the way I know. I do learn my way around each year and once I am there I will take a walk and look for Gloucester Road. The hotel has never mentioned it as a possible way to get to the Regency. You are all very helpful and Thank You Mizer |
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