Hello everyone,


I'm a french student, making researchs on the www fo find elements for an
history of road marking (in Paris).

First of all, I'd like to know the leaning of the zigzag lines that can be
seen in many streets in London, also shown on this picture :
http://www.fh-oow.de/fbbug/html/h_a/...road-zebra.jpg

Then, does someone knows when were the first signs "painted" on the roads
(don't know which product it was actually before now). It seems that england
may have done this before France, for what I heard in a french factory
producing various products for raod marking.

Finally, I'd be grateful if some of you could list some keywords of road
marking in english so that it would help me to go on with my researchs in
english and not only in french...

I have this
pedestrian crossing = crosswalk = zebra crossing
(how were the zebra crossing before the age of white lines ? In paris,
"nails" were used until the years 1970s as you can see here
http://www.toddwebbphotographs.com/france/50-32.html )

pavement marking seems to be a US term

Are there specific technical words for the different kind of lines dot
lines, etc...

Are there resources on the www to find the rules used by english road
engineers ? ... There's a governemental site for road safety in France with
the french instructions at
http://www.securiteroutiere.equipeme.../signalisation
/l-instruction-interministerielle-sur-la-signalisat.html

Thanks to those who will be willing to help -and apologizes for the english
mistakes-

Nicolas Delnatte

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:07 +0200, Nicolas
wrote in :

I'm a french student, making researchs on the www fo find elements for an
history of road marking (in Paris).

First of all, I'd like to know the leaning of the zigzag lines that can be
seen in many streets in London, also shown on this picture :
http://www.fh-oow.de/fbbug/html/h_a/...road-zebra.jpg

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs_index.htm
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs09.htm
and especially http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/18.htm#167


--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:07 +0200, "Nicolas"
wrote:


Are there resources on the www to find the rules used by english road
engineers ? ... There's a governemental site for road safety in France with
the french instructions at
http://www.securiteroutiere.equipeme.../signalisation
/l-instruction-interministerielle-sur-la-signalisat.html

Is this any use http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs09.htm ?
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

"Dr Ivan D. Reid" a écrit dans le message de
...
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:07 +0200, Nicolas
wrote in :

I'm a french student, making researchs on the www fo find elements for
an
history of road marking (in Paris).

First of all, I'd like to know the leaning of the zigzag lines that can
be
seen in many streets in London, also shown on this picture :
http://www.fh-oow.de/fbbug/html/h_a/...road-zebra.jpg

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs_index.htm
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs09.htm
and especially http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/18.htm#167

And have a look at : http://www.trl.co.uk/

By the way, I don't think the photo on the home page was taken in the UK ;-)

Regards,

- Alan (in Brussels)

"Alan (in Brussels)" a écrit dans le message
de ...

"Dr Ivan D. Reid" a écrit dans le message de
...
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:07 +0200, Nicolas
wrote in :

I'm a french student, making researchs on the www fo find elements for
an
history of road marking (in Paris).

First of all, I'd like to know the leaning of the zigzag lines that
can
be
seen in many streets in London, also shown on this picture :
http://www.fh-oow.de/fbbug/html/h_a/...road-zebra.jpg

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs_index.htm
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs09.htm
and especially http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/18.htm#167

And have a look at : http://www.trl.co.uk/

By the way, I don't think the photo on the home page was taken in the UK
;-)

Sorry, I now realise that different photos are used, I was thinking of the
one showing a very overloaded train .

And in any case, you would do better to visit:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/

--
Regards,

- Alan (in Brussels)

Arthur Figgis wrote:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:59:07 +0200, "Nicolas"
wrote:


Are there resources on the www to find the rules used by english
road
engineers ? ... There's a governemental site for road safety in
France with
the french instructions at

http://www.securiteroutiere.equipeme.../signalisation
/l-instruction-interministerielle-sur-la-signalisat.html

Is this any use http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs09.htm ?
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

All the UK signs & markings regulations can be found at:
www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/divisionhomepage/032477.hcsp

"Nicolas" wrote in message
...

First of all, I'd like to know the leaning of the zigzag lines that can be
seen in many streets in London, also shown on this picture :
http://www.fh-oow.de/fbbug/html/h_a/...road-zebra.jpg

Note that they are white if the restriction is full-time, such as on a
crossing. There are also yellow zigzags which can be found around schools,
and here the restriction is part-time.

Finally, I'd be grateful if some of you could list some keywords of road
marking in english so that it would help me to go on with my researchs in
english and not only in french...

I have this
pedestrian crossing = crosswalk = zebra crossing

We also have "toucan crossing" and "pelican crossing". Incidentally, the
flashing yellow ball on top of a pole is called a Belisha Beacon.

(how were the zebra crossing before the age of white lines ? In paris,
"nails" were used until the years 1970s as you can see here
http://www.toddwebbphotographs.com/france/50-32.html )

The correct English name is "studs", not "nails". They used them here in the
1970s, but I don't think they use them now.

pavement marking seems to be a US term

Traffic engineers in England call the traffic surface the "pavement", even
though ordinary people in England use "pavement" to describe only the
pedestrian walkway beside the traffic surface.

Are there specific technical words for the different
kind of lines dot lines, etc...

I believe there are no names for the different markings which separate
traffic lanes. The only words for road markings which I can recall are
"chevron", "stripe", "dash" and "box junction". A "mini roundabout" is also
a road marking. Also look up "red route" (I believe these only exist in
London).

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

In article ,
Alan (in Brussels) wrote:
And have a look at : http://www.trl.co.uk/

By the way, I don't think the photo on the home page was taken in the UK ;-)

Looks like LuL SSL stock to me, so I'm not sure why you
say that.

--
Mike Bristow - really a very good driver

Thanks to all of you for your kind answers !


Nicolas Delnatte


John Rowland a écrit dans le
message : ...
"Nicolas" wrote in message
...

First of all, I'd like to know the leaning of the zigzag lines that can
be
seen in many streets in London, also shown on this picture :
http://www.fh-oow.de/fbbug/html/h_a/...road-zebra.jpg

Note that they are white if the restriction is full-time, such as on a
crossing. There are also yellow zigzags which can be found around schools,
and here the restriction is part-time.

Finally, I'd be grateful if some of you could list some keywords of road
marking in english so that it would help me to go on with my researchs
in
english and not only in french...

I have this
pedestrian crossing = crosswalk = zebra crossing

We also have "toucan crossing" and "pelican crossing". Incidentally, the
flashing yellow ball on top of a pole is called a Belisha Beacon.

(how were the zebra crossing before the age of white lines ? In paris,
"nails" were used until the years 1970s as you can see here
http://www.toddwebbphotographs.com/france/50-32.html )

The correct English name is "studs", not "nails". They used them here in
the
1970s, but I don't think they use them now.

pavement marking seems to be a US term

Traffic engineers in England call the traffic surface the "pavement", even
though ordinary people in England use "pavement" to describe only the
pedestrian walkway beside the traffic surface.

Are there specific technical words for the different
kind of lines dot lines, etc...

I believe there are no names for the different markings which separate
traffic lanes. The only words for road markings which I can recall are
"chevron", "stripe", "dash" and "box junction". A "mini roundabout" is
also
a road marking. Also look up "red route" (I believe these only exist in
London).

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"John Rowland" typed


The correct English name is "studs", not "nails". They used them here in the
1970s, but I don't think they use them now.

Ziz-zags replaced studs at zebra crossings in the early 1970s (?1971) if
my memory is correct.
The were introduced much later for Pelicans I think.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.