* You do need to touch-in on Tramlink if you have a season ticket _if_
(and only if) you're travelling to Wimbledon, otherwise the automatic
gates that also serve the NR and Tube platforms get confused and will
charge you for a tube journey.

AFAIAA the situation is actually that the gates will refuse to let you out
at all and it is a deliberate anti-fraud measure. The reasoning being that
passengers could arrive on National Rail trains from far off destinations
without any ticket, or with the lowest price ticket that could have allowed
them to board the train at their origin station, and then have an Oyster
card with just a bus pass on it to allow them to exit. By forcing all
Tramlink users to touch in it means that bus passes will only open the gates
if the passenger arrived at the station on Tramlink.

On Mon, 16 May 2005, Dave Arquati wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005, Dave Arquati wrote:

Chris! wrote:

Dave Arquati wrote:

I don't have much of an urge to go to Croydon except about once a
year, so I should be OK on the tram front. It's an interesting
oddity though!

I noticed the Tramlink odity too. Although if your just popping to
Ikea (or whatever else there is in Croydon) for a little while it
doesn't seem to charge you for the return journey

There's something else in Croydon except Ikea?

Apparently, there's a very good milkshake place, but it was closed when i
went there.

Ooh, not like the one in Brighton where they make 101 different types of
milkshake, everything from peach to cornflakes flavour?

I don't know, it was closed!

I bloody well hope not, though - cornflake milkshake sounds atrocious.

If anyone's interested in tracking it down, it was in some sort of
shopping centre; there was a Disney store there, ISTR. The milkshake place
was a little unit up on the mezzanine.

[ObTransport: That 4am train from Brighton back to Victoria is dead
handy for a night out in Brighton...]

4 am? That's a lot of milkshake.

tom

--
If it ain't Alberta, it ain't beef.

Graham J wrote:
* You do need to touch-in on Tramlink if you have a season ticket
_if_
(and only if) you're travelling to Wimbledon, otherwise the
automatic
gates that also serve the NR and Tube platforms get confused and
will
charge you for a tube journey.

AFAIAA the situation is actually that the gates will refuse to let
you out
at all and it is a deliberate anti-fraud measure. The reasoning being
that
passengers could arrive on National Rail trains from far off
destinations
without any ticket, or with the lowest price ticket that could have
allowed
them to board the train at their origin station, and then have an
Oyster
card with just a bus pass on it to allow them to exit. By forcing
all
Tramlink users to touch in it means that bus passes will only open
the gates
if the passenger arrived at the station on Tramlink.

Although it's simple enough for such passengers to hop on a tram to
Dundonald Road, touch in, and be back in a couple of minutes and
straight through the barriers. Isolating Tramlink at Wimbledon with
another set of barriers (if physically possible) would prevent this if
it was thought worthwhile - I think - at the expense of making it
horrendously complicated for your poor Oysterite.