He (Ken Livingstone) added: "Simply bidding for the Games has brought
forward a host of transport improvements - with the East London Line
extension, the new £400m ticket hall at King's Cross, and the £91m
package of improvements to the North London Line all given added
momentum."
What are the improvements to the NLL? £91M doesn't seem to by much
these days so it can't be much of an improvement.

Kevin

Maybe the NLL's forthcoming truncation east of Stratford? (Albeit
replaced by a new DLR branch.)

wrote:
He (Ken Livingstone) added: "Simply bidding for the Games has brought
forward a host of transport improvements - with the East London Line
extension, the new £400m ticket hall at King's Cross, and the £91m
package of improvements to the North London Line all given added
momentum."
What are the improvements to the NLL? £91M doesn't seem to by much
these days so it can't be much of an improvement.

It should be for:
- signalling enhancements
- improved power supply
- new "resilience measures" to counter late-running freight services - I
think this just means a new/reinstated freight loop
- platform extensions for 6-car trains where necessary
- frequency doubling to 8tph

I'm not sure how they are squeezing the £91m for those measures, but
that's what it's for.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

What about some improvements to the South London Line? Reinstating a station
at Brixton (with platform level interchange to the main line) would be a
start!

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Max B

Visit me at http://www.thebattens.ndonet.com

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wrote:
He (Ken Livingstone) added: "Simply bidding for the Games has brought
forward a host of transport improvements - with the East London Line
extension, the new £400m ticket hall at King's Cross, and the £91m
package of improvements to the North London Line all given added
momentum."
What are the improvements to the NLL? £91M doesn't seem to by much
these days so it can't be much of an improvement.

It should be for:
- signalling enhancements
- improved power supply
- new "resilience measures" to counter late-running freight services - I
think this just means a new/reinstated freight loop
- platform extensions for 6-car trains where necessary
- frequency doubling to 8tph

I'm not sure how they are squeezing the £91m for those measures, but
that's what it's for.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London




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What are the improvements to the NLL? £91M doesn't seem to by much
these days so it can't be much of an improvement.

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MaxB wrote:
What about some improvements to the South London Line? Reinstating a station
at Brixton (with platform level interchange to the main line) would be a
start!

This is being considered as part of the second phase of the East London
Line project, but it would cost an absolute fortune; the previous
station on the SLL at Brixton was halfway to Loughborough Junction, and
constructing new platforms at Brixton itself would be extremely
difficult. It would probably cost about £70m just by itself.


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wrote:

He (Ken Livingstone) added: "Simply bidding for the Games has brought
forward a host of transport improvements - with the East London Line
extension, the new £400m ticket hall at King's Cross, and the £91m
package of improvements to the North London Line all given added
momentum."

Four hundred million pounds? For a ticket hall? Are they mad?

--
John Ray, London UK.

And Heaven forbid that we should spend any money south of the river, after
all we have the South Circular to keep us happy (well occupied anyway)!

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MaxB wrote:
What about some improvements to the South London Line? Reinstating a
station at Brixton (with platform level interchange to the main line)
would be a start!

This is being considered as part of the second phase of the East London
Line project, but it would cost an absolute fortune; the previous station
on the SLL at Brixton was halfway to Loughborough Junction, and
constructing new platforms at Brixton itself would be extremely difficult.
It would probably cost about £70m just by itself.


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Imperial College, SW7
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Dave Arquati wrote:
wrote:
He (Ken Livingstone) added: "Simply bidding for the Games has brought
forward a host of transport improvements - with the East London Line
extension, the new £400m ticket hall at King's Cross, and the £91m
package of improvements to the North London Line all given added
momentum."
What are the improvements to the NLL? £91M doesn't seem to by much
these days so it can't be much of an improvement.

It should be for:
- signalling enhancements
- improved power supply
- new "resilience measures" to counter late-running freight services - I
think this just means a new/reinstated freight loop
- platform extensions for 6-car trains where necessary
- frequency doubling to 8tph

I'm not sure how they are squeezing the £91m for those measures, but
that's what it's for.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Are they actually planning to increase the length of trains, where will
the extra trains come from, also for increased frequency. Incredible
for a line that 30 years ago BR would hve quite happily confined to the
waste dump (passenger services anyway). I have always thought the 3 car
trains from Euston to Watford Junc needed extra carriages when you see
the overcrowding so would have thought that this should take priority
over the NLL.
Kevin

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 wrote:

Dave Arquati wrote:
wrote:

He (Ken Livingstone) added: "Simply bidding for the Games has brought
forward a host of transport improvements - with the East London Line
extension, the new £400m ticket hall at King's Cross, and the £91m
package of improvements to the North London Line all given added
momentum." What are the improvements to the NLL? £91M doesn't seem to
by much these days so it can't be much of an improvement.

It should be for:
- signalling enhancements
- improved power supply
- new "resilience measures" to counter late-running freight services - I
think this just means a new/reinstated freight loop
- platform extensions for 6-car trains where necessary
- frequency doubling to 8tph

I'm not sure how they are squeezing the £91m for those measures, but
that's what it's for.

Are they actually planning to increase the length of trains, where will
the extra trains come from, also for increased frequency. Incredible for
a line that 30 years ago BR would hve quite happily confined to the
waste dump (passenger services anyway). I have always thought the 3 car
trains from Euston to Watford Junc needed extra carriages when you see
the overcrowding so would have thought that this should take priority
over the NLL.

The same could be said about the trains on the WAGN lines. I really don't
get Ken's infatuation with the NLL; it's just not serving a corridor with
heavy demand, so why give it so much attention?

Mind you, 91 million isn't exactly a lot.

tom

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