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Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering possible extensions to
Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.
Both of these could be very interesting.

No details are given, but I'm guessing that the Farringdon extension could
run in tunnel to Moorgate,
then take over Thameslink's branch to Farringdon.
This will be closing in any case when Thameslink 2000 is built.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned Fleet/Jubilee
line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych,
and take over the abandoned Jubilee line tunnels and platforms at Charing
Cross.
I understand that provision was made for Jubilee line platforms when City
Thameslink was built.

Peter.

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Peter Goodland wrote:

Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering possible extensions
to Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych, and take over
the abandoned
Jubilee line tunnels and platforms at Charing Cross. I understand that
provision
was made for Jubilee line platforms when City Thameslink was built.

Not sure about that one - hadn't the Fleet Line been abandoned by the late
1980s? Would this route lead to the return of a service at Aldwych? If so
could they add a subway to Temple?

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The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych, and take over
the abandoned
Jubilee line tunnels and platforms at Charing Cross. I understand that
provision
was made for Jubilee line platforms when City Thameslink was built.

Not sure about that one - hadn't the Fleet Line been abandoned by the late
1980s? Would this route lead to the return of a service at Aldwych? If so
could they add a subway to Temple?

The idea of the Fleet/Jubilee line extension to the city was presumably
abandoned some time before the current extension further south was built.
IIRC, the original Fleet line plan was to include stations at Aldwych,
Holborn Viaduct and Bank.

I was speculating on whether this new plan would follow the same route,
after all there are abandoned platforms at Charing Cross
and some tunnel east of there towards Aldwych. There is also some protection
of the route, and some construction at City Thameslink.

Peter.

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"Peter Goodland" petergoodland.at.hotmail.com wrote in message
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Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering
possible extensions to Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych,
and take over the abandoned Jubilee line tunnels and
platforms at Charing Cross.

I don't think the present DLR stock will fit in the Jubilee tunnels from
Aldwych to Charing Cross.

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"Peter Goodland" petergoodland.at.hotmail.com wrote in message
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Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering
possible extensions to Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.

The Charing Cross branch could run along the original planned
Fleet/Jubilee line route via City Thameslink and Aldwych,
and take over the abandoned Jubilee line tunnels and
platforms at Charing Cross.

I don't think the present DLR stock will fit in the Jubilee tunnels
from Aldwych to Charing Cross.

Jubilee tunnels from Aldwych to Charing Cross?

Tell me more!




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Bob

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Bob Wood wrote:

I don't think the present DLR stock will fit in the Jubilee tunnels
from Aldwych to Charing Cross.

Jubilee tunnels from Aldwych to Charing Cross?

Tell me more!

The original plan for the Jubilee Line was that after Charing Cross it would
run to Aldwych (thus making that station a bit useful - tunnels along the
Strand were built but never used) then along the course of the Fleet (hence
the planned name "Fleet Line"), taking in Holborn Viaduct (now City
Thameslink) and Fenchurch Street, then down to Surrey Docks (now Quays) and
then over the mainline rail to Hayes (which would have brought the tube into
that part of the world - I wonder how Fare's "Fair" would have gone down in
such circumstances). However the project only got to Charing Cross and the
remaining plans never materialised.

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Sounds like a fanatastic idea.
Are they really thinking of doing it though?
DLR seems to be extending every which way but west.

A Charing Cross branch sounds good. But isnt it just as easy to go to
Tower Gateway and jump on a circle/district. If there already tunnels
there and some prework already commenced then maybe it possible. It
would certainly be used by many as its a useful route to st pauls too
for the tourists.

A farringdon branch seems somewhat redundant when crossrail comes along
(if it ever does) as you'll be able to connect into the DLR at WIQ and
IOD crossrail. But right now would be a useful addition as its not that
straightforward to get to Farringdon. (best route for me is DLR to Bank
then a bus or walk even. I also guess that would also involve expensive
tunnelling from Bank to Moorgate. Do DLR have that kinda money?

The only other problem I see is that the DLR especially the Bank branch
is heavily congested as it is. 3 car will help but i'm sure the
additional capacity will be quickly used up. So running to farringdon
or Charing cross will just add more and more people onto an
already congested system. Well have those tourist taking it to St Pauls
for instance.

But worthwhile ideas for extenstions. If only to allow addtional
connections into the tube network. (Bakerloo and Northern at Charring
Cross and Thameslink Hammersmith and City at Farringdon)

A.

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Londoncityslicker wrote:

A Charing Cross branch sounds good. But isnt it just as easy to go to
Tower Gateway and jump on a circle/district.

True, but the three stations (Tower Hill, Tower Gateway and Fenchurch
Street) are all spread out quite a bit and so are rather poor for
interchanging. (Was there a reason why they didn't build DLR right up to the
concourse at Fenchurch Street?)

A farringdon branch seems somewhat redundant when crossrail comes along
(if it ever does) as you'll be able to connect into the DLR at WIQ and
IOD crossrail. But right now would be a useful addition as its not that
straightforward to get to Farringdon. (best route for me is DLR to Bank
then a bus or walk even. I also guess that would also involve expensive
tunnelling from Bank to Moorgate. Do DLR have that kinda money?

How close to Moorgate are the DLR platforms? And don't the end pointing to
the north already?

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Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
Londoncityslicker wrote:
True, but the three stations (Tower Hill, Tower Gateway and Fenchurch
Street) are all spread out quite a bit and so are rather poor for
interchanging. (Was there a reason why they didn't build DLR right up to the
concourse at Fenchurch Street?)

I don't know the answer, but considering how close the stations are to
each other, it's a shame that there's no 'proper' interchange without
having to descend to street level...

How close to Moorgate are the DLR platforms? And don't the end pointing to
the north already?

There's a single-track headshunt to the north-west (IIRC) of the Bank
DLR platforms which extends quite a long way towards Moorgate (I
suppose it's where the TBM ended up). But, as has been discussed before
when deciding what to do with the Moorgate Thameslink branch, how are
you going to get the trains up to sub-surface level between the end of
the headshunt and the platforms at Moorgate?

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Peter Goodland wrote:
Modern Railways mentions that the DLR are considering possible extensions to
Farringdon and/or Charing Cross.
Both of these could be very interesting.


The Wharf mentioned a few weeks ago that they're currently got a
shortlist of 10 possible DLR extensions that they're now whittling down
to just 3 or 4.

The one that they particular mentioned was Lewisham to Catford which
they say scores quite favourably and they've got the support of Lewisham
council for.

Here's the original story:

http://icthewharf.icnetwork.co.uk/th...name_page.html