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Colin Rosenstiel wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 30 Jun 2005:

Not any more. Double yellow lines only mean "No Waiting at any time" now.

Is that so?

It is indeed - and has been for quite a while now.

Then what, please, is the point of the "Red routes" where
double red lines mean no stopping/waiting at any time?

Double Red means no stopping - i.e. you cannot even stop to answer the
mobile phone or to let somebody out.

When red routes first appeared on the A1 this policy was ruthlessly
enforced (by wardens en masse waiting for an offender) but since red
routes have become more common I have seen less enforcement, and so
inevitably double red has started to equate to double yellow.

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Paul Terry

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:10:03 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

In many areas, it is perfectly legal to park on double yellow lines in
the late evening and on a Sunday.

Is it really? Surely, a single yellow line would be used in those
circumstances, as a double line means no waiting at any time.

Neil

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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:09:05 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

Is that so? Then what, please, is the point of the "Red routes" where
double red lines mean no stopping/waiting at any time?

No loading either. I guess the Red Route markings mean roughly the
same as a double yellow line with the appropriate (can't remember what
they are) pavement markings to signify no loading.

Neil

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In message , Neil Williams
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:09:05 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

Is that so? Then what, please, is the point of the "Red routes" where
double red lines mean no stopping/waiting at any time?

No loading either. I guess the Red Route markings mean roughly the
same as a double yellow line with the appropriate (can't remember what
they are) pavement markings to signify no loading.

Neil

Yellow Lines

Broken line - no waiting for less than the working day
Single line - no waiting for the working day (7 a.m. to 7 p.m.)
double yellow lines - no waiting for longer than the working day. This
does not automatically mean at all times.

Exact times will be displayed on plates nearby (or at the entrance to an
area in major towns/cities)

--
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England

In article ,
(Mike Hughes) wrote:

Yellow Lines

Broken line - no waiting for less than the working day
Single line - no waiting for the working day (7 a.m. to 7 p.m.)
double yellow lines - no waiting for longer than the working day. This
does not automatically mean at all times.

Exact times will be displayed on plates nearby (or at the entrance to
an area in major towns/cities)

You are out of date. The rules were changed so that double yellows have to
be at any time now so that "At any time" plates are no loner needed. The
definition of the working day is on plates. 9 am to 5 pm and 8:30 to 6:30
are both used in Cambridge.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , Mike Hughes
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Yellow Lines

Broken line - no waiting for less than the working day
Single line - no waiting for the working day (7 a.m. to 7 p.m.)

Much though I hate to correct a taxi driver, this is wrong and
misleading.

For instance, one high street not far from me has a single yellow line
with plates announcing no parking "Monday to Sunday, 8.00am to
midnight". Every evening and every Sunday parking wardens are out in
force issuing hundreds of tickets to shoppers who make incorrect
assumptions about "working days".

--
Paul Terry

In article ,
(Paul Terry) wrote:

In message , Mike Hughes
writes

Yellow Lines

Broken line - no waiting for less than the working day
Single line - no waiting for the working day (7 a.m. to 7 p.m.)

Much though I hate to correct a taxi driver, this is wrong and
misleading.

For instance, one high street not far from me has a single yellow line
with plates announcing no parking "Monday to Sunday, 8.00am to
midnight". Every evening and every Sunday parking wardens are out in
force issuing hundreds of tickets to shoppers who make incorrect
assumptions about "working days".

That is the sort of restriction that used to have double yellow lines and
confuse people the other way. We had some 8 am to 8 pm restrictions like
that at one time.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Mike Hughes wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 30 Jun 2005:


Yellow Lines

Broken line - no waiting for less than the working day
Single line - no waiting for the working day (7 a.m. to 7 p.m.)
double yellow lines - no waiting for longer than the working day. This
does not automatically mean at all times.

This is what I thought, but I'm told I'm wrong!

And, indeed, http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs09.htm specifically says
"Double yellow lines mean no waiting at any time, unless there are signs
that specifically indicate seasonal restrictions." So it's obviously
changed since I last learnt the Highway Code (must get an up-to-date
copy!).
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"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005

Neil Williams wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 30 Jun 2005:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:10:03 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

In many areas, it is perfectly legal to park on double yellow lines in
the late evening and on a Sunday.

Is it really? Surely, a single yellow line would be used in those
circumstances, as a double line means no waiting at any time.

I wish they'd announce when they change these things.... I gather that
it has changed since I last studied the Highway Code!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 23 May 2005

In article ,
(Mrs Redboots) wrote:

Neil Williams wrote to uk.transport.london on Thu, 30 Jun 2005:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:10:03 +0100, Mrs Redboots
wrote:

In many areas, it is perfectly legal to park on double yellow lines in
the late evening and on a Sunday.

Is it really? Surely, a single yellow line would be used in those
circumstances, as a double line means no waiting at any time.

I wish they'd announce when they change these things.... I gather that
it has changed since I last studied the Highway Code!

It was changed in the last few years and has allowed us to remove
literally hundreds of redundant "At any time" signs.

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Colin Rosenstiel