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Steve Moore July 21st 03 03:48 PM

Crossrail
 
"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...

Go back to the original question, "Is this some mechanism to allow
"inter-city" trains to run from the north, right through London and

down to
the South-East."

The questioner isn't asking about current nor proposed train

services. He's
asking about mechanisms which will allow something to happen. In

this
instance the track alignments and connections will allow it to

happen,
questions of timetabling, service intervals whilst relevant in the

real
world are not applicable in the context of the question.

Learning to read, understand and then giving an accurate concise

reply to
the question really does save an awful lot of time and energy.


I'd bet the original poster just wants to know if Crossrail is likely
to result in service trains from the North to the SE rather than a
pedantic ramble about track alignments.



Terry Harper July 21st 03 05:34 PM

Crossrail
 
"Michael Bell" wrote in message
...
In article , Matthew

Malthouse
wrote:

I wonder how much of that traffic actually crosses London? And how much
would cross London if such an extention were to happen?

More subtly how much crosses for Gatwick and how much goes all the way?


Resonable question! But people from say, Brighton, will not
all want to get off at the same point in London, they will get off
some at Croydon, some Farringdon,,,etc and as they get off, they might
as well be replaced by people getting on to go to Luton, Sheffield,
etc. Running straight through central London isn't just a benefit to
passengers, it also avoids the need to supply crew in central London,
always a problem, and avoids the need to reverse trains in terminal
stations.


If you travel on Thameslink, it is noticeable that a lot of people who board
south of London Bridge are travelling to or beyond Kings Cross Thameslink.
One retrograde step made by MML is to cut out stops at Luton, which make
cross-platform or same-platform changes onto Thameslink simple. As it is,
passengers either have to change at Leicester or struggle across to KXTL.

Obviously planned by people who get a taxi at St Pancras.
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org
E-mail:
URL:
http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/



Dave July 21st 03 06:39 PM

Crossrail
 
NM writes
Either you are so stubborn that you won't go back and look at the
website to see your error - or you are *so* thick in that you can't
see the error you made

I just happen to live here and I know how much I pay for fuel, I have
offered to supply you with a recent reciept showing the price.

You carry on believing you are right if that makes you happy, I know
different. AFAIC the matter is closed.


Jolly good. You carry on feeling smug. I carry on knowing you are a
****wit who can't read.

Suits me fine.

--
Dave

Huge July 21st 03 06:42 PM

Crossrail
 
"Peter Smyth" writes:

"Huge" wrote in message
...
"Lew 1 (from the UK)" writes:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:38:57 +0000 (UTC), (David
Marshall) wrote:


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Especially with bull**** like only 2 trains an hour northbound from
London Bridge in the evening rush, and those "all stations".


It is not really Thameslink's fault that there are not enough paths available
through London Bridge in the rush hour.


1) Does London Bridge mysteriously become smaller between the morning
and evening rush hours?

2) It's about time they evicted the whingers from Borough Market and got
on with expanding it then.

3) It's still bull****.


--
"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
The uk.transport FAQ;
http://www.huge.org.uk/transport/FAQ.html
[email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]



Huge July 21st 03 06:43 PM

Crossrail
 
"Peter Smyth" writes:

"NM" wrote in message
om...


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Why not. I, as a punter hold them responsible, my contract is with them,
if others **** them up it's up to them to take whatever redress they see
fit.


Like what?


Who cares? Not my problem.


--
"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
The uk.transport FAQ; http://www.huge.org.uk/transport/FAQ.html
[email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]



David Marshall July 21st 03 07:15 PM

Crossrail
 
In article ,
Terry Harper wrote:
Absolutely. But with such a frequent service it doesn't really *matter*.

Unfortunately the frequent service does not extend to the extremities.


I certainly agree with you there. It's a great service through London
(late running or not) but far too infrequent further out.

Dave
--
Email: MSN Messenger:

Robert Woolley July 21st 03 07:42 PM

Crossrail
 
On 21 Jul 2003 18:42:26 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

2) It's about time they evicted the whingers from Borough Market and got
on with expanding it then.

I'd never thought I'd agree with you - but I do re (2)!

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

Dave July 21st 03 08:08 PM

Crossrail
 
Robert Woolley writes
On 21 Jul 2003 18:42:26 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

2) It's about time they evicted the whingers from Borough Market and got
on with expanding it then.

I'd never thought I'd agree with you - but I do re (2)!


AOL
Me too!
/AOL

--
Dave

Andrew July 21st 03 08:23 PM

Crossrail
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
NM writes
Then don't sell the ****ing tickets if they can't deliver.


Once again proving your ignorance.

Travelcards are valid on that route and Travelcards are sold by lots of
train companies and TfL. Thameslink can't prevent those people with
Travelcards from travelling on its trains even if it wanted to.

--
Dave


Exactly. The same perhaps applies to a fair number of single and return
journeys within Thameslink's operating area, eg a single Kentish Town to
London Bridge might be sold at Kentish Town LU station, but be valid on
Thameslink services too.

Andrew



Andrew July 21st 03 08:26 PM

Crossrail
 

"NM" wrote in message
m...


Peter Smyth wrote:

"Huge" wrote in message
...

"Lew 1 (from the UK)" writes:

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:38:57 +0000 (UTC), (David
Marshall) wrote:


In article , Huge


wrote:

Thameslink publish the timetable. It's entirely their fault if they
can't abide by it.

Absolutely. But with such a frequent service it doesn't really

*matter*.

From my expirience, the frequent service only "doesn't matter" on

paper. In the real world, Thameslink seem to develop huge gaps in the
service on an alarmingly regular basis

Quite.

Especially with bull**** like only 2 trains an hour northbound from
London Bridge in the evening rush, and those "all stations".



It is not really Thameslink's fault that there are not enough paths

available
through London Bridge in the rush hour.

Peter Smyth


Then don't sell the ****ing tickets if they can't deliver.



Booking clerks can't suddenly decide to refuse to sell the (****ing) tickets
to customers at their window because of an extended gap between trains, can
they ?

Andrew




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