Is crossrail coming under lul? or is it an new toc? Will lul staff passes be
valid? anyone know?

IanB writes

surely it will be operated by the (then) existing TOCs (as with Thameslink)
so not new TOC & nothing to do with LUL (apart from shared stations). Can
you use your LUL staff pass on Thameslink trains from Hendon to Croydon or
West Hampstead to Elephant & Castle?... I would imagine that the same rules
would apply.

Cross London Rail Links Ltd has been set up by TfL and the SRA. As to
who operates it, well that's so far into the future that it's almost not
worth bothering about.

My guess would be that if it ever gets built, it'll be a
design/build/operate lease a la Tramlink.

www.crossrail.co.uk

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Dave

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Is crossrail coming under lul? or is it an new toc? Will lul staff passes
be
valid? anyone know?

Is this some mechanism to allow "inter-city" trains to run from the north,
right through London and down to the South-East. Or is it nowhere near that
sensible?

"Mark Hewitt" wrote in message
...

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Is crossrail coming under lul? or is it an new toc? Will lul staff
passes
be
valid? anyone know?

Is this some mechanism to allow "inter-city" trains to run from the north,
right through London and down to the South-East. Or is it nowhere near
that
sensible?

See www.crossrail.co.uk.

"Mark Hewitt" writes:

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Is crossrail coming under lul? or is it an new toc? Will lul staff passes
be
valid? anyone know?

Is this some mechanism to allow "inter-city" trains to run from the north,
right through London and down to the South-East. Or is it nowhere near that
sensible?

No.

Although they probably could, following the Thameslink route.

Which is going to be intermittently closed for the next couple of years.


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Mark Hewitt writes
Is this some mechanism to allow "inter-city" trains to run from the
north, right through London and down to the South-East. Or is it
nowhere near that sensible?

East-West, not North-South. And regional services, not InterCity.

www.crossrail.co.uk

--
Dave

Mark Hewitt wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Is crossrail coming under lul? or is it an new toc? Will
lul staff passes be valid? anyone know?

Is this some mechanism to allow "inter-city" trains to run
from the north, right through London and down to the
South-East. Or is it nowhere near that sensible?

When completed the current East London Line project will allow that as will
the existing line betrween Willesden Junction and Clapham.

Cast_Iron writes
Is this some mechanism to allow "inter-city" trains to run
from the north, right through London and down to the
South-East. Or is it nowhere near that sensible?

When completed the current East London Line project will
allow that as

I don't consider Highbury to Croydon/Crystal Palace trains
as being 'InterCity' - they will be local trains.

will the existing line betrween Willesden Junction and
Clapham.

Watford to Brighton trains? They are regional trains
rather than 'InterCity'.

Who said anything about existing service, I was talking about what the
new and existing railway will allow to happen.

There will be no InterCity trains via the ELL, only local ones.

What plans are there for InterCity trains via the Willesden-Clapham
route? I'm certainly not aware of any.

So please do enlighten us 'about what the new and existing railway will
allow to happen'.

--
Dave

Cast_Iron writes
Cast_Iron writes
Is this some mechanism to allow "inter-city" trains to
run
from the north, right through London and down to the
South-East. Or is it nowhere near that sensible?

When completed the current East London Line project will
allow that as

I don't consider Highbury to Croydon/Crystal Palace trains
as being 'InterCity' - they will be local trains.

will the existing line betrween Willesden Junction and
Clapham.

Watford to Brighton trains? They are regional trains
rather than 'InterCity'.

Who said anything about existing service, I was talking
about what the new and existing railway will allow to
happen.

There will be no InterCity trains via the ELL, only local
ones.

What plans are there for InterCity trains via the
Willesden-Clapham route? I'm certainly not aware of any.

So please do enlighten us 'about what the new and existing
railway will allow to happen'.

Yet again you cite current proposals. Try thinking about possibilites.

You appear to be confusing what will happen, with cloud-cuckoo land.

Where is the room to fit the InterCity trains in between the stopping
trains on the ELL?

If you want to play fantasy railways; why not go the whole hog and claim
that the current Thameslink route already 'allows' the 'possibility' of
running trains from the East Midlands, via the Thameslink route, to
Brighton?

--
Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...
What plans are there for InterCity trains via the Willesden-
Clapham route? I'm certainly not aware of any.

Part of that route was used by Virgin for trains from Brighton to Brimingham
and Manchester via Clapham Junction, Kensington Olympia and Reading, though
I think they may have been suspended during the current works on the West
Coast Main Line.

There are plans for two extra stations on the line (Shepherds Bush/White
City and Chelsea Harbour/Imperial Wharf), so paths for more inter-city
trains will become more difficult to achieve.

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