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Bob Wood wrote: Real risk [1]? Or copycats who think it's "funny"? [1] Not the best phrasing, but I cannot think of anything better at the moment. Hopefully you know what I mean. It's safer to presume that it is a real risk in all incidents like this. Yes. "Sinister motives" would have been a better phrase I realise now. PhilD -- |
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Simon Lane wrote:
[...] UXB Shepherds Bush (police to R5 reporter) Also large area around Warren Street being cleared (R5) - hmmm... |
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Simon Lane wrote:
Simon Lane wrote: [...] UXB Shepherds Bush (police to R5 reporter) Also large area around Warren Street being cleared (R5) - hmmm... Ah I see - R5 reporting averone being pushed 300 yds away from Oval too - they are worried in case chemical or biological agents used... |
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Simon Lane wrote:
Simon Lane wrote: Simon Lane wrote: [...] UXB Shepherds Bush (police to R5 reporter) Also large area around Warren Street being cleared (R5) - hmmm... Ah I see - R5 reporting averone being pushed 300 yds away from Oval too - they are worried in case chemical or biological agents used... That'll be the Australians? |
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My sister works in Victoria Street near Whitehall and heard what
sounded like an explosion around the time they jumped on the guy opposite Whitehall. They don't know whether it was a controlled explosion or not. They've now been given the all clear. Neill |
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David Hansen wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:10:18 GMT someone who may be "Bob Wood" wrote this:- Without the injuries, we still have the massive disruption - the desired aim! And the explosives are saved for another day. It is also likely that it will encourage party politicians to do what the terrorists want, reduce our freedoms even more. Interested to know what your solution is then? Or do we wait to you lose a loved one before you start to think that something needs to be done. |
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sharky typed: Simon Lane wrote: Simon Lane wrote: Simon Lane wrote: [...] UXB Shepherds Bush (police to R5 reporter) Also large area around Warren Street being cleared (R5) - hmmm... Ah I see - R5 reporting averone being pushed 300 yds away from Oval too - they are worried in case chemical or biological agents used... That'll be the Australians? What? They popped down from St Johns Wood just to be part of the panic south of the river?? -- Bob |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:57:55 +0000 (UTC) someone who may be "Mick"
wrote this:- It is also likely that it will encourage party politicians to do what the terrorists want, reduce our freedoms even more. Interested to know what your solution is then? Do what Mr Liar said, continue as before. Terrorists want to change the way things are done and they are succeeding when party politicians reduce our freedoms even more. Or do we wait to you lose a loved one before you start to think that something needs to be done. Emotional arguments don't make anyone safer. What matters is the cold hard analysis. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000. |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:57:55 +0000 (UTC), Mick wrote in
, seen in uk.railway: David Hansen wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:10:18 GMT someone who may be "Bob Wood" wrote this:- Without the injuries, we still have the massive disruption - the desired aim! And the explosives are saved for another day. It is also likely that it will encourage party politicians to do what the terrorists want, reduce our freedoms even more. Interested to know what your solution is then? Or do we wait to you lose a loved one before you start to think that something needs to be done. The problem is that hard cases make bad law. I tend to disagree with David on most things, and I think that he tends to over-egg the pudding when making his arguments, but he does have a valid point here. There is, in reality, little the government can do in terms of law which will actually protect us against terrorism, especially 'home-grown terrorism'. After all, if there was some magic law which could deal with the problem, it would have been introduced in the 1970s during the height of the IRA campaign. It's a bugger, innit? We'd all like to think there was a solution open to us, but the truth is that we aren't going to get someone standing up saying "By Golly! I have _THE_ solution to the terrorism problem!", because there simply isn't one. The way to deal with terrorism is for our society (not our government) to deal with it, and that means (for example) everyone being more security aware ALL the time and EVERYWHERE, and of course the real biggy which is our society actually recognising that we all, every single one of us, have a responsibility for what happens in our country, and everyone thus must make the effort to live and work together, with our varied cultures integrating, rather than the slow self-segregation of elements of the community which is all too apparent if you come to places like Lincoln, never mind cities like Birmingham which (as a former resident) I can tell you have what are almost self-chosen ghettoes. Integration and the understanding which comes with it is the only thing which will (in the very long term) stop certain members of our youth becoming extremists, whether they be right-wing, Muslim or whatever extreme. Without extremists, there is no terrorism. -- Ross, Lincoln, UK We're *not* afraid http://www.werenotafraid.com |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:42:03 +0100, Ross
wrote: Without extremists, there is no terrorism. A very wise statement. May I also add to the pot the following two quotes? 1. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter[1]. 2. He who gives up liberty to gain security deserves neither liberty nor security[2]. Very relevant in the current situation, and I'll give the Government some credit (rare, that) for *not* overreacting to either incident. I am, however, very disappointed (but not surprised) by some of the rubbish that is being spouted by some members of the Great British Public, including people seriously suggesting the idea of baggage scans on LUL and buses, and someone in this week's Milton Keynes Citizen suggesting that ID cards would in some way have helped prevent either of these sets of attacks. [1] An uncomfortable truth, but one we have to understand if we're going to get anywhere near solving the issue. There is an unwillingness to accept that seeking to understand terrorists and their motivation is not the same thing as supporting them, particularly among readers of low-end gutter tabloid newspapers. [2] Or something to that effect. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK When replying please use neil at the above domain 'wensleydale' is a spam trap and is not read. |
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