Nursing, now will you shut up and stop whinging.

Kevin

Is the Underground recruiting drivers? I'm always reading about how
they do sweet FA for loads of money! I,ll have some of that!

rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk
Do you want to have the responsibility of a train plus a thousand
passengers for only 33k after overtime and before stoppages? Indeed why
should public service worker work longer hours just to supplement their
wage? If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen. All bus and
tube drivers should resign, then see how the capital copes without them.
--
Clive

Errrrrrr what over time does a tube driver earn? None. Well none roistered
or volunteered. They get 15 mins O/T if they book off 2 minutes late. And,
with the amount of late running on the Tube, there's a lot of 'O/T' being
gained for doing just there job but finishing a little late. We're not
talking about doing extra shifts. The unions saw to that.

Loony T

If you think 33k is a low wage then I think you need to think again. There
are many people in London earning much less. Also most of use don't have
to
think about our pay "before stoppages" as we don't feel the need to walk
out
of jobs on a regular basis.

Dave



33k isn't a low wage. However, how many people could survive on 33k in
London? Is it the Tube's staff's fault that they get paid a wage that
reflects what you actually need to earn to live in London? Shouldn't we be
saying to every other company, 'stop ****ing us over and give us terms and
conditions that befit the 21st century' or should just say 'you earn more
than me so we should reduce your terms and conditions'? We all know nurses,
police, LFB etc SHOULD be paid more, but isn't that down to the unions to
fight for it? Isn't right that their employers should be paying the right
and proper wages in the first place?

Loony T

Perhaps if more people were willing to walk out they might have better pay
and conditions?


If I walked out, I'd get fired.

--
James Farrar


Maybe you should join a union that actually fights for it's members rather
than get walked all over. Don't get me wrong, the RMT/ASLEF are only too
willing to walk for it's train driver members (not so keen to fight for any
other grade), but at least LUL staff get a good wage for the huge
responsibility they have on a day-to-day basis. When things run smooth the
staff are there doing their mundane run.of-the-mill duties. It's only when
the **** hits the fan i.e. stalled trains in tunnels, station evacuations,
signal failures etc that they actually come into a class of their own and
really earn their money.

Loony T

Perhaps if more people were willing to walk out they might have
better pay and conditions?


If I walked out, I'd get fired.

And if all the employees walked out?

We'd all get fired.

--
James Farrar

September's coming soon

And then there would be no company, no director earning huge 20-30% rises
each year, no share holders getting their dividend? I don't think so. Get a
back bone and grow some ******** mate

Loony T

wrote in message
oups.com...
Nursing, now will you shut up and stop whinging.

Kevin

Join the underground mate. No 3-7 year training for **** poor wages, no 70
hour weeks, no dangerous drugs to administer, no enforced over time, the
list does go on. If nursing is so bad, leave.

Loony T

As the trains can be fully automatic anyway, why have a Motorman on? Just
save money, this is obviously your aim.
--
Clive

Errrr Vic Line. Would you like to go on an underground train with no staff
on the train? Who will tell you what to do in emergency? Who will direct you
to the nearest exit when things go wrong? God (not one particular God I
hasten to add) forbid there are any more bombs, but I think that in it's
self is a fully justified reason to keep staff on trains.

Loony T

In message , Loony Tune
writes

Errrr Vic Line. Would you like to go on an underground train with no
staff on the train? Who will tell you what to do in emergency? Who will
direct you to the nearest exit when things go wrong? God (not one
particular God I hasten to add) forbid there are any more bombs, but I
think that in it's self is a fully justified reason to keep staff on
trains.

Loony T
Did I just see a light go on in someone's brain?
--
Clive

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 23:09:44 +0100, "Loony Tune"
wrote:




Perhaps if more people were willing to walk out they might have
better pay and conditions?


If I walked out, I'd get fired.

And if all the employees walked out?

We'd all get fired.

--
James Farrar

September's coming soon

And then there would be no company, no director earning huge 20-30% rises
each year, no share holders getting their dividend? I don't think so. Get a
back bone and grow some ******** mate

If a firm isn't in the position of a monopoly provider, then customers
go elsewhere.

Rail strikes in the 80s had this effect on freight - it generally
switched to the roads....

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk