Meetings today regarding Service Recovery - whatever that means.

Hope in those meetings they discuss reinstating some crossovers so if
god forbid something like this happens again they won't have to take
a 10 mile stretch of line out of service because they have nowhere to
reverse the trains.

B2003

And TOX05 has appeared despite his conviction in 2004.

Wonder if the damage to adjacent cars would have been reduced had
windows not been cut into ends on refurb?

Would the absence of these have 'saved' other cars, made it worse for
those in the detonation car, or just been of no consequence?

Paul Corfield wrote:
snip
Somehow - and I don't know how - ABC television managed to get hold of
pictures.
snip

It would appear that they've been leaked from one of the many American
investigation/intelligence agencies, after they were circulated by the
Met Police for the purposes of assisting the investigation. The Met is
reportedly very unhappy about this happening, in part for fear of
prejudicing any future trial that may take place.

On 30 Jul 2005 10:35:07 -0700, wrote:

Wonder if the damage to adjacent cars would have been reduced had
windows not been cut into ends on refurb?

Would the absence of these have 'saved' other cars, made it worse for
those in the detonation car, or just been of no consequence?

Probably more serious injuries/more fatalities in the car where the
bomb was, at the (negative) expense of less/no injuries to those in
the next. It would be a bit of fine-line trade-off, but the situatioon
as it happened was probably "better," as more of the blast dissipated
into the tunnel.
--
Nick Cooper

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On 30 Jul 2005 13:28:48 -0700, "Mizter T" wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:
snip
Somehow - and I don't know how - ABC television managed to get hold of
pictures.
snip

It would appear that they've been leaked from one of the many American
investigation/intelligence agencies, after they were circulated by the
Met Police for the purposes of assisting the investigation. The Met is
reportedly very unhappy about this happening, in part for fear of
prejudicing any future trial that may take place.

I thought it had to be something along those lines. The release of
pictures had (IMO) been very controlled up to that point and had avoided
"sensationalism" for rather obvious reasons.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:31:02 +0100, Paul Corfield
wrote:

I thought it had to be something along those lines. The release of
pictures had (IMO) been very controlled up to that point and had avoided
"sensationalism" for rather obvious reasons.

While they were probably released for the wrong reasons, I'm not
convinced the pictures (or at least the ones I've seen) are
sensationalist.

They show pictures of what I'd expect the interior of a bombed-out
tube train to look like, and what I'd expect a nail bomb might look
like. IOW, pure fact.

The gutter tabloid press may use them in sensationalist reports, but
then they'll do that anyway.

Neil

--
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Met Police for the purposes of assisting the investigation. The Met is
reportedly very unhappy about this happening, in part for fear of
prejudicing any future trial that may take place.

Not sure how the picture of a blown up train will prejudice a trial
more
than the deaths of 54 people with their pictures and grieving loved
ones
appearing in all the papers. Besides which we had pictures of the
edgware
road train the next day after the blast.

B2003

Probably more serious injuries/more fatalities in the car where the
bomb was, at the (negative) expense of less/no injuries to those in
the next. It would be a bit of fine-line trade-off, but the situatioon
as it happened was probably "better," as more of the blast dissipated
into the tunnel.

I've always thought theres a bit too much glass in tube trains these
days
what with windows between cars and large glass draft protectors next
to the doors. Bombs notwithstanding, this much glass is dangerous even
in a "normal" accident, it wouldn't take much for a train to stop
really
suddenly and someones head to go through some of this glass with
nasty consequences.

B2003

On 31 Jul 2005 02:19:12 -0700, "Boltar"
wrote:

Probably more serious injuries/more fatalities in the car where the
bomb was, at the (negative) expense of less/no injuries to those in
the next. It would be a bit of fine-line trade-off, but the situatioon
as it happened was probably "better," as more of the blast dissipated
into the tunnel.

I've always thought theres a bit too much glass in tube trains these
days
what with windows between cars and large glass draft protectors next
to the doors. Bombs notwithstanding, this much glass is dangerous even
in a "normal" accident, it wouldn't take much for a train to stop
really
suddenly and someones head to go through some of this glass with
nasty consequences.

Hitting the sort of glass in car windscreens that shatters, as opposed
to hitting a solid wall and fracturing your skull, you mean?

--
Nick Cooper

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