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Warwick Gardens at night
Does anyone know the reason that Warwick Gardens in Kensington has a
barrier over it at night, preventing traffic moving from north to south. En-route home I normally leave Wood Lane heading North, then either go down South Africa Road (bad for suspension) or the A40/North Circular to the M4. Of course on Thursday night the H&C bridge had closed Wood Lane, so I had to go south to Shepherds Bush. I decided that I'd drop down Holland Park towards Earls Court. I was surprised when I couldn't go straight across out of Addison Road, and had to take a right past Olympia, as there were barriers accross the entrance to Warwick Gardens. My map (2003) doesn't show that this is a restricted road. What time do the barriers get lowered? As there is no right-hand-turn from north-end road (even if there is no traffic coming the other way and you don't stop to make the turn), it leaves the choice of the middle of Hammersmith (watch out for the drunken revllers) or (as I and another car did on Thursday) a turn in Beaumont Avenue south of West Kensington. I think tomorrow night I'll continue round and drive through some residential streets in W14 if the mayor and his cronies insist on closing major thoroughfares. |
Warwick Gardens at night
Paul Weaver wrote:
I think tomorrow night I'll continue round and drive through some residential streets in W14 if the mayor and his cronies insist on closing major thoroughfares. I don't know the answer to your question of why Warwick Gardens is barriered off at night (apart from it being a prestigious street full of very wealthy residents), but I wouldn't rush to judgement that it's because of a Mayoral decision. I have a feeling that this arrangement has been in place for a good few years, predating the creation of the Mayor and TfL. |
Warwick Gardens at night
Paul Weaver wrote:
I think tomorrow night I'll continue round and drive through some residential streets in W14 if the mayor and his cronies insist on closing major thoroughfares. That particular road had barriers across several decades before the idea of a London mayor was even thought of. |
Warwick Gardens at night
In message .com, Paul
Weaver writes Does anyone know the reason that Warwick Gardens in Kensington has a barrier over it at night, preventing traffic moving from north to south. To reduce the amount of night-time noise in a wealthy (and clearly influential) residential area. My map (2003) doesn't show that this is a restricted road. What time do the barriers get lowered? Not sure, but its around 10.30pm As there is no right-hand-turn from north-end road (even if there is no traffic coming the other way and you don't stop to make the turn), it leaves the choice of the middle of Hammersmith (watch out for the drunken revllers) or (as I and another car did on Thursday) a turn in Beaumont Avenue south of West Kensington. You went the wrong way. The alternative route (which I think is sign-posted) is turn left from Addison Road into High Street Ken, and then turn right into Earl's Court Road. It is actually hardly any longer than the usual route at that time of night. I think tomorrow night I'll continue round and drive through some residential streets in W14 if the mayor and his cronies insist on closing major thoroughfares. The barrier has been there for at least 15 years (and probably quite a bit more than that) - long before Ken & Co. -- Paul Terry |
Warwick Gardens at night
You went the wrong way. The alternative route (which I think is
sign-posted) is turn left from Addison Road into High Street Ken, and then turn right into Earl's Court Road. It is actually hardly any longer than the usual route at that time of night. I susspected that from the fact most traffic went left. Of course by this stage I was in lane 3 of 4, straight on (right lane) or turn right. How do said wealthy residents get to their prestigious area? If Ken was a proper working-man's mayor he'd divert the night busses down there :) |
Warwick Gardens at night
On 31 Jul 2005 09:59:07 -0700, "Paul Weaver"
wrote: Of course on Thursday night the H&C bridge had closed Wood Lane, so I had to go south to Shepherds Bush. I decided that I'd drop down Holland Park towards Earls Court. I was surprised when I couldn't go straight across out of Addison Road, and had to take a right past Olympia, as there were barriers accross the entrance to Warwick Gardens. Should have gone left as the signs all say (they change when the barriers come down). Then turn right at the Odeon Kensington. Exactly the same distance, just the other two sides of the same rectangle. The lights at the Odeon appear to follow a different pattern at night to accomodate the extra right-turners there at this time. If you really really want to drive down it, just do as the residents do and turn left towards High St Ken and make an immediate U-turn, the road you are talking about is not barried off from traffic heading West towards Hammersmith. But since the alternate route is fine it's really only people that live in the actual street that need to do this. My map (2003) doesn't show that this is a restricted road. What time do the barriers get lowered? They lower at 22:30, occasionally I've been passing when they do so, on a slightly long red phase. The current barriers are new, but there's been an automatic barrier there, closing at 22:30 for decades. It doesn't need to be on a map, the alternative route is perfectly good enough. I think tomorrow night I'll continue round and drive through some residential streets in W14 if the mayor and his cronies insist on closing major thoroughfares. What nonsense. The road you're talking about IS entirely residential and I expect that is why it closes to straight-on traffic at night. I would expect that the barriers were put in when they made that whole Warwick Avenue one way thing happen, as part of winning the residents over to the idea. |
Warwick Gardens at night
Should have gone left as the signs all say
The signs that are posted at the junction, which is no use when there's two lanes of traffic on your left (lane 1 turning left, lane 2 heading straight on, lane 3 heading straight on, lane 4 heading right), traffic behind you and the only way to go without causing a delay is to the right. The road you're talking about IS entirely residential and I expect that is why it closes to straight-on traffic at night The road is a green "Primary Route", a major thoroughfare for traffic from the north of London to the south. There are several symbols defined (dot in road, line across road, yellow/purple dashes) to indicate a road with restricted access. |
Warwick Gardens at night
Paul Weaver wrote: The road you're talking about IS entirely residential and I expect that is why it closes to straight-on traffic at night The road is a green "Primary Route", a major thoroughfare for traffic from the north of London to the south. There are several symbols defined (dot in road, line across road, yellow/purple dashes) to indicate a road with restricted access. In the A-Z I have (about 2 or 3 years old) it's shown in purple (as a restricted access road, like Oxford St). Looks a bit odd having a purple section in the middle of an orange A-road, but there you go... |
Warwick Gardens at night
Rupert Candy wrote: Paul Weaver wrote: The road is a green "Primary Route", a major thoroughfare for traffic from the north of London to the south. There are several symbols defined (dot in road, line across road, yellow/purple dashes) to indicate a road with restricted access. In the A-Z I have (about 2 or 3 years old) it's shown in purple (as a restricted access road, like Oxford St). Looks a bit odd having a purple section in the middle of an orange A-road, but there you go... It is a primary route. I don't know if it always has been though, before they declassified the part of the West Cross Route that used to be the M41. Now if only they'd build a "proper" West Cross Route (as I have proposed and similar to what was originally planned) they would divert major traffic away from Kensington and Chelsea and onto a grade-separated non-residential route towards Hammersmith instead (bypassing Fulham and Putney to meet the A3 near Tibbetts). See url http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ossBypass2.jpg |
Warwick Gardens at night
Earl Purple wrote: It is a primary route. I don't know if it always has been though, before they declassified the part of the West Cross Route that used to be the M41. Indeed (though the A-Z doesn't distinguish primary routes from ordinary A-roads). I wonder if any other primary routes (other than tunnels or bridges) are closed at night? Now if only they'd build a "proper" West Cross Route (as I have proposed and similar to what was originally planned) they would divert major traffic away from Kensington and Chelsea and onto a grade-separated non-residential route towards Hammersmith instead (bypassing Fulham and Putney to meet the A3 near Tibbetts). That would be very useful, particularly if combined with a grade-separated Victoria Embankment/Cheyne Walk (!) |
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