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Get to Chalk Farm NB last night.
Departing passenger knocks on cab door "There's an unattended rucksack on this car". Go check and find that there is indeed an unattended rucksack in the car, complete with about 20 passengers. Detrain, telling everybody to leave the station and close the doors on the car. Another passenger says to me - "the person who had the rucksack got off at Mornington Crescent - he was drunk". So, the scenario is: 3 weeks ago - three bombs explode on trains and one on a bus, many people killed. 1½ weeks ago - at least 4(?) devices are detonated, but fail to explode On both days, the bombs were in rucksacks. Passenger gets off at Mornington Crescent. Rucksack is left unattended in full view of everybody. At least two passengers notice it. Nobody bothers about it. Train continues to next station, Camden Town - still nobody bothered about the rucksack I am told about the rucksack by passenger at Chalk Farm, who is getting of the train there anyway. I am told by a detrained passenger that the rucksack was left unattended at Mornington Crescent (2 stations away). Presumably if the first passenger hadn't told me, nobody else would have bothered and the train would have still carried on without any body caring. If this is the mentality of people who are travelling in the current situation, then there is no hope for anybody! The station is closed, then Supervisor turns up, goes in the car and rummages through rucksack before removing it. Apparently that's the procedure. Fine by me! - I'll leave it to the station staff to sort out and reappear when given the all clear. :-) Roger |
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... Get to Chalk Farm NB last night. Departing passenger knocks on cab door "There's an unattended rucksack on this car". I would love it if all luggage left unattended was destroyed. Have you ever seen Monsters Inc, the film? A child's sock gets through into Monster World; special troops cover the sock with a metal dome, screw the dome to the floor and set of an explosion, annihilating the sock. Every station should have one! |
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Peter Lawrence wrote:
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:25:33 -0500, wrote: Get to Chalk Farm NB last night. Departing passenger knocks on cab door "There's an unattended rucksack on this car". Go check and find that there is indeed an unattended rucksack in the car, complete with about 20 passengers. Detrain, telling everybody to leave the station and close the doors on the car. Another passenger says to me - "the person who had the rucksack got off at Mornington Crescent - he was drunk". So common sense suggests it was not left by a muslim terrorist. The passengers applied this preferred to take the small risk and get get home Which is the usual criteria for dealing with any matter arising (ignore it, "I'm in a hurry"), regardless of the danger failing to take action may cause to themselves or others. |
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In message , Paul Corfield
writes The number of incidents caused by unattended luggage is truly staggering. Well over 2/3s of the daily report for LU is security related at present and most are unattended items. I can think of only two occasions when I have left something unattended - and they were both while on holiday in other countries. I really, really struggle to understand how people can leave stuff unattended or behind in normal circumstances never mind those we are in now. Anyone got a clue as to how people do it? It is important to remember that just as not everyone has the same physical prowess, so not everyone has the same mental prowess. In some cases it is merely a predisposition towards forgetfulness, but in others it can be the early stages of dementia, a condition which affects a very large number of people in this country. Sadly, I have seen loved ones regressing from forgetting bags and keys to forgetting where they live, and eventually forgetting to whom they are married and who are their children. -- Paul Terry |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:50:21 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote: [unattended luggage] It is important to remember that just as not everyone has the same physical prowess, so not everyone has the same mental prowess. In some cases it is merely a predisposition towards forgetfulness, but in others it can be the early stages of dementia, a condition which affects a very large number of people in this country. Sadly, I have seen loved ones regressing from forgetting bags and keys to forgetting where they live, and eventually forgetting to whom they are married and who are their children. Fair comment - I hadn't thought of those sorts of issues. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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So all a terrorist has to do is pretend to be drunk and KABOOMMMMMMMMMM,
a packed train gone up and many dead, it's scarey how stupid people are. Peter Lawrence wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:25:33 -0500, wrote: Get to Chalk Farm NB last night. Departing passenger knocks on cab door "There's an unattended rucksack on this car". Go check and find that there is indeed an unattended rucksack in the car, complete with about 20 passengers. Detrain, telling everybody to leave the station and close the doors on the car. Another passenger says to me - "the person who had the rucksack got off at Mornington Crescent - he was drunk". So common sense suggests it was not left by a muslim terrorist. The passengers applied this preferred to take the small risk and get get home |
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wrote in message ... Get to Chalk Farm NB last night. If this is the mentality of people who are travelling in the current situation, then there is no hope for anybody! Yep this is the mentality of people travelling. I have seen two unattended bags in the last fortnight and was off to find somebody to tell when the owner came back, everybody else just ignored them. tim |
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In message , Paul Corfield
writes I can think of only two occasions when I have left something unattended - and they were both while on holiday in other countries. I really, really struggle to understand how people can leave stuff unattended or behind in normal circumstances never mind those we are in now. Anyone got a clue as to how people do it? No. As I think I've written here before, I once had a client leave behind an artificial foot on a coach after a tour. The LT Lost Property Office is a pretty amazing place. (I suspect Paul may have visited it?!) items "lost" over the years have included a bag of human bones, a stuffed gorilla and - apparently - the front end of a Ford Escort (although I have only anecdotal evidence for the latter). -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:25:33 -0500, wrote: Get to Chalk Farm NB last night. Departing passenger knocks on cab door "There's an unattended rucksack on this car". [snip] I am told by a detrained passenger that the rucksack was left unattended at Mornington Crescent (2 stations away). Presumably if the first passenger hadn't told me, nobody else would have bothered and the train would have still carried on without any body caring. If this is the mentality of people who are travelling in the current situation, then there is no hope for anybody! The number of incidents caused by unattended luggage is truly staggering. Well over 2/3s of the daily report for LU is security related at present and most are unattended items. I can think of only two occasions when I have left something unattended - and they were both while on holiday in other countries. I really, really struggle to understand how people can leave stuff unattended or behind in normal circumstances never mind those we are in now. Anyone got a clue as to how people do it? Well, let's start with you (purely in the interests of research, you understand). How did you come to leave something unattended? Was the fact that you were on holiday in another country relevant? There must be many tube passengers in London in precisely those circumstances. I suspect that it often happens when (a) you are carrying something that you don't normally carry, and (b) you have something important on your mind that distracts you from other matters. I would have thought that LU might have done some research on the subject. For what proportion of unattended items are their owners subsequently identified, and are the owners quizzed about why/how they managed to leave the items? -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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On the rare occasions when I can face travelling on the tube I always
keep my bag tightly clutched too me. I'm too worried about some tea leaf making off with it. Neill |
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In this sort of situation, would the correct thing to to be to pull the lever to talk to the driver? |
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In message , Tim writes
In this sort of situation, would the correct thing to to be to pull the lever to talk to the driver? It would on my train. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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