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Yeah, well, Laurence, I'm not talking about a driver going out of his
way, onto unrecognised (and therefore uninsured) streets. Just to open
his door and take a few passengers onto his otherwise virtually empty
bus. That, it would seem, from the tenor of some of the replies here,
to be thoroughly unreasonable. Gosh, I'd just LOVE to experience the
pleasures of being a jobsworth, just once! As it is, I'm self-employed
and I deployed that sort of attitude I'd be bankrupt by now.

Marc.

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You've got your head in the clouds.

Maybe, but at least I sleep well at night.

To keep down costs busses are only
insured on their approved routes and to pick someone up whilst off
route
is against the law insurance wise.

So why does the TFL Website say that they WILL pick up off-route?


I wouldn't bet on your keeping
your job if anything went wrong, let alone not being prosecuted by the
police.

I'd like to know what criminal offence was being occasioned by picking
up a passenger off route!

And just WHAT is more likely to go wrong in picking up a passenger at a
recognised bus stop off route than on route?

As for losing one's job, if the career structure is: jobsworth bus
drivers become jobsworth London Buses or whatever officials, and up the
TFL hierarchy, then yes maybe they would be dullard enough to
discipline a driver for being a human being instead of an automaton.

Marc.

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On 27 Sep 2005 07:19:42 -0700, "
wrote:

Yeah, well, Laurence, I'm not talking about a driver going out of his
way, onto unrecognised (and therefore uninsured) streets.

Neither was I. The lift home is along a route served by his company,
just not the route he was actually operating at that time. He knew
the road - it's his route home to the depot.

You really need to READ a post before trying to knock it down in
flames :-)

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On 27 Sep 2005 07:25:04 -0700, "
wrote:

As for losing one's job, if the career structure is: jobsworth bus
drivers become jobsworth London Buses or whatever officials, and up the
TFL hierarchy, then yes maybe they would be dullard enough to
discipline a driver for being a human being instead of an automaton.

Don't be silly. The career route is:

'Bus driver stays as 'bus driver until he gets ****ed off and tries
another job.

Rich ******* (or wanabee rich *******) tenders for a contract to run
one or more tfl routes.

No career path whatsoever between the two.

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Sorry, Laurence, I wasn't aiming to be offensive or knock down your
message, but I can clearly see the difference between (a) a bus running
on a long diverted route picking up other routes' passengers whilst on
that diversion (my scenario) and (b) a bus running "light" to the
garage at the end of a shift (I sometimes see a 295 running empty the
whole way between Clapham Junction where his shift ended and Westbourne
Park Garage some 5 or 6 miles away) when the bus is not scheduled to
run. The difference is, in (a) the driver is merely carrying a few
more passengers than he would have carried anyway, whilst in (b) he is
running beyond his route and would clearly not be expected to carry
passengers for various reasons.

Marc.

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Sorry, Laurence, that's why I said "London Buses" or "TFL" and not
"Stagecoach" or whatever. I agree that there is probably no career
move from bus driver to private bus company tycoon (although isn't that
how Blue Triangle and some others actually started?!). There is, though
I would suggest, a logical progression from bus driver to inspector to
scheduler to junior manager and higher. That most certainly would have
happened in London Transport days and there is no logical reason why
that should still not happen.

Marc.

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Paul Terry typed


In message , Clive
writes

but the fare collecting machines still have to be updated by the driver
at Fare stages or Compulsory stops as you call them

I recall this being mentioned here before, but does anyone know *why*
this is done?

So that someone can verify the validity and purchase time & place of a
ticket to Revenue Protection?

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes

Paul Terry typed

In message , Clive
writes

but the fare collecting machines still have to be updated by the driver
at Fare stages or Compulsory stops as you call them

I recall this being mentioned here before, but does anyone know *why*
this is done?

So that someone can verify the validity and purchase time & place of a
ticket to Revenue Protection?

Setting a fare stage doesn't affect the time, which is stamped
automatically by the ticket machine. Why does the place matter?

--
Paul Terry

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:45:41 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote:

In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes

Paul Terry typed

I recall this being mentioned here before, but does anyone know *why*
this is done?

So that someone can verify the validity and purchase time & place of a
ticket to Revenue Protection?

Setting a fare stage doesn't affect the time, which is stamped
automatically by the ticket machine. Why does the place matter?

Drivers (on TfL services), are now only supposed to enter a farestage
at the start of a trip, and when they enter/leave the cash free zone.
The place, which is printed on the ticket, would only matter in case
of a dispute.

Changing the farestage also makes an entry on the drivers module,
which is downloaded at the end of their duty.
--
Thomas Covenant
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In message 1127852161.afde6c354dc33caf24e8eb4b533e295e@teran ews,
Thomas Covenant writes
Changing the farestage also makes an entry on the drivers module, which
is downloaded at the end of their duty.
My son is a bus driver and all the relevant info like time, where, how
much cash taken, return tickets cancelled multi stage tickets issued
are all on the module downloaded at the end of each shift.
--
Clive