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Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
There is now a long-term diversion of various London bus routes due to
the closure of Battersea Bridge for the foreseeable future, since it was rammed last week by the M/V James Prior. The routes involved include 49 and 239, now using Wandsworth Bridge. Not only are these buses (and other traffic of course) now clogging up the already clogged streets of Fulham (especially Wandsworth Bridge Road), but the glee that the drivers are taking in refusing to pick up any passengers on the diverted route is obscene. If ever there was exemplicication of the sadism of certain bus drivers this is it. I hope that their consciences allow them to rest easy at night. Marc. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On 24 Sep 2005 15:48:49 -0700, "
wrote: There is now a long-term diversion of various London bus routes due to the closure of Battersea Bridge for the foreseeable future, since it was rammed last week by the M/V James Prior. The routes involved include 49 and 239, now using Wandsworth Bridge. Not only are these buses (and other traffic of course) now clogging up the already clogged streets of Fulham (especially Wandsworth Bridge Road), but the glee that the drivers are taking in refusing to pick up any passengers on the diverted route is obscene. If ever there was exemplicication of the sadism of certain bus drivers this is it. I hope that their consciences allow them to rest easy at night. So how many bus stops on the original routes do the diversions miss? -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War: http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...ra/lu/tuaw.htm 625-Online - classic British television: http://www.625.org.uk 'Things to Come' - An Incomplete Classic: http://www.thingstocome.org.uk |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
So how many bus stops on the original routes do the diversions miss?
-- Nick Cooper I really have no idea, but the diversion on the Fulham side of Battersea Bridge involves a journey of about a mile and a half, and a similar extra distance on the other side in Wandsworth. The number of bus stops "passed" but not served is in the region of 10 or 12. Marc. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On 25 Sep 2005 06:27:40 -0700, "
wrote: So how many bus stops on the original routes do the diversions miss? I really have no idea, but the diversion on the Fulham side of Battersea Bridge involves a journey of about a mile and a half, and a similar extra distance on the other side in Wandsworth. The number of bus stops "passed" but not served is in the region of 10 or 12. The point is, the bus stops it misses are any located on the bridge and immediately before and after it. If shouldn't stop at stops on the diversion because it shouldn't be going there! -- James Farrar . @gmail.com |
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Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
wrote in message ups.com... There is now a long-term diversion of various London bus routes due to the closure of Battersea Bridge for the foreseeable future, since it was rammed last week by the M/V James Prior. The routes involved include 49 and 239, now using Wandsworth Bridge. Not only are these buses (and other traffic of course) now clogging up the already clogged streets of Fulham (especially Wandsworth Bridge Road), but the glee that the drivers are taking in refusing to pick up any passengers on the diverted route is obscene. If ever there was exemplicication of the sadism of certain bus drivers this is it. I hope that their consciences allow them to rest easy at night. I suspect that if bus drivers are not stopping on the diverted route it is because they have been told not to rather than to deliberately annoy you. Indeed it makes sense not to add even more time on to an already extended journey to pick up people at every stop on the way. Peter Smyth |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
Peter Smyth wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... There is now a long-term diversion of various London bus routes due to the closure of Battersea Bridge for the foreseeable future, since it was rammed last week by the M/V James Prior. The routes involved include 49 and 239, now using Wandsworth Bridge. Not only are these buses (and other traffic of course) now clogging up the already clogged streets of Fulham (especially Wandsworth Bridge Road), but the glee that the drivers are taking in refusing to pick up any passengers on the diverted route is obscene. If ever there was exemplicication of the sadism of certain bus drivers this is it. I hope that their consciences allow them to rest easy at night. I suspect that if bus drivers are not stopping on the diverted route it is because they have been told not to rather than to deliberately annoy you. Indeed it makes sense not to add even more time on to an already extended journey to pick up people at every stop on the way. Indeed - the diversion must add about half an hour to the journey in peak periods. I wonder why they haven't diverted them via Chelsea Bridge instead - it's much shorter. -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:02:56 +0100, "Peter Smyth"
wrote: I suspect that if bus drivers are not stopping on the diverted route it is because they have been told not to rather than to deliberately annoy you. Indeed it makes sense not to add even more time on to an already extended journey to pick up people at every stop on the way. Maybe it would be seen as pirating passengers from another route allocated to another operator. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On 25 Sep 2005 06:27:40 -0700, "
wrote: I really have no idea, but the diversion on the Fulham side of Battersea Bridge involves a journey of about a mile and a half, and a similar extra distance on the other side in Wandsworth. The number of bus stops "passed" but not served is in the region of 10 or 12. So what? If a bus normally goes from point A to point B to point C to point D, if it takes a different and longer than normal route between B & C, why should it stop inbetween, even if it does past X, Y or Z on the process? -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
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Allow me to reply to the various points as follows:-
James, Laurence and Nick: The point I am making is that, if the purpose of a bus SERVICE is to move as many passengers as possible as efficiently as possible, and the final destination of the passengers is the same (e.g. if I am waiting for a 295 to Clapham Junction, the diverted 49 also will end up there), why should the bus on diversion NOT assist in this process? Or is the purpose of the bus route merely to provide employment for bus drivers, driving virtually empty buses? Laurence, since most of us are using Travelcards etc., I doubt if much revenue will go from one company to another if, say a 49 were to take a few 295 passengers. Peter, since for a large part of the day Wandsworth Bridge Road is at crawling pace at best in one direction or another, the point you make is of little importance. Richard J: it is the look of smug satisfaction when seeing a queue, with several of us hands outstretched and no attempt to slow down. Or, for example, the other day, a diverted 49 was stuck right alongside the Northbound bus stop, not moving for about 3 or 4 minutes, and then only a few yards, and the driver sat there with his virtually empty bus watching about 10 or 12 of us waiting in the pouring rain. Anyone with an ounce of humanity would have opened the door to at least enquire whether he could help anyone on their journey. I have to say that some of the responses here rather suggest that some contributors to this forum seem to think that those big red things chugging along the road, for which we all pay through Council Tax etc., are there for some purpose OTHER than getting as many passengers from A to B (whether via C or D or whatever) as efficiently as possible and talk of extra stopping time, pirating or that they should not be picking up "off route" is sheer humbug. Marc. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On 24 Sep 2005 15:48:49 -0700, "
wrote: There is now a long-term diversion of various London bus routes due to the closure of Battersea Bridge for the foreseeable future, since it was rammed last week by the M/V James Prior. The routes involved include 49 and 239, now using Wandsworth Bridge. Not only are these buses (and other traffic of course) now clogging up the already clogged streets of Fulham (especially Wandsworth Bridge Road), but the glee that the drivers are taking in refusing to pick up any passengers on the diverted route is obscene. If ever there was exemplicication of the sadism of certain bus drivers this is it. I hope that their consciences allow them to rest easy at night. http://www.londontransport.co.uk/tfl...e_rt_bus.shtml Says that diverted buses on the 49 will serve all stops on the diversion. If they aren't, then have you complained to London Buses or direct to the operator of the 49 (London United)? -- Thomas Covenant Please observe reply to Address. Unsolicited mail to "From" address deleted unread. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On 26 Sep 2005 06:33:03 -0700, "
wrote: Laurence, since most of us are using Travelcards etc., I doubt if much revenue will go from one company to another if, say a 49 were to take a few 295 passengers. Don't they clock on Travelcard users in order to claim revenue per-passenger? Not much may be lost. But some will be. Richard J: it is the look of smug satisfaction when seeing a queue, with several of us hands outstretched and no attempt to slow down. What would YOUR face, as the driver, be showing? A reluctance to catch the eye of passengers you COULD serve but have been instructed not to? I have to say that some of the responses here rather suggest that some contributors to this forum seem to think that those big red things chugging along the road, for which we all pay through Council Tax etc., are there for some purpose OTHER than getting as many passengers from A to B (whether via C or D or whatever) as efficiently as possible and talk of extra stopping time, pirating or that they should not be picking up "off route" is sheer humbug. Our elected representatives have chosen to privatise the 'bus system, with companies competing for routes and passengers. There are advantages and disadvantages. But the big advantage was the clean start. 'Buses were originally nationalised to end the corruption of this system. Privatisation was introduced to end the corruption and decay of the nationalised system :-) Eventually we'll have another shake-up, I expect. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
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" writes So how many bus stops on the original routes do the diversions miss? -- Nick Cooper I really have no idea, but the diversion on the Fulham side of Battersea Bridge involves a journey of about a mile and a half, and a similar extra distance on the other side in Wandsworth. The number of bus stops "passed" but not served is in the region of 10 or 12. Marc. As the driver passes a fare stage he updates his ticket issuing equipment with the next code. How do you do this when you're off route? And how do you account for passengers that you accrue whilst off route? Are they insured etc.. -- Clive |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
In message .com,
" writes Richard J: it is the look of smug satisfaction when seeing a queue, with several of us hands outstretched and no attempt to slow down. Or, for example, the other day, a diverted 49 was stuck right alongside the Northbound bus stop, not moving for about 3 or 4 minutes, and then only a few yards, and the driver sat there with his virtually empty bus watching about 10 or 12 of us waiting in the pouring rain. Anyone with an ounce of humanity would have opened the door to at least enquire whether he could help anyone on their journey. I have to say that some of the responses here rather suggest that some contributors to this forum seem to think that those big red things chugging along the road, for which we all pay through Council Tax etc., are there for some purpose OTHER than getting as many passengers from A to B (whether via C or D or whatever) as efficiently as possible and talk of extra stopping time, pirating or that they should not be picking up "off route" is sheer humbug. When I drove buses picking up anyone from anywhere other than recognised stops was prohibited and uninsured. Perhaps you should turn your venom at the big businesses instead of the man that's trying to do his job to the best of his ability, or walk, or buy a car. -- Clive |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
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Clive typed: As the driver passes a fare stage he updates his ticket issuing equipment with the next code. Fare stages on the 49? Fare stages on London Buses? -- Bob |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:18:34 +0100, Thomas Covenant
wrote: On 24 Sep 2005 15:48:49 -0700, " wrote: There is now a long-term diversion of various London bus routes due to the closure of Battersea Bridge for the foreseeable future, since it was rammed last week by the M/V James Prior. The routes involved include 49 and 239, now using Wandsworth Bridge. Not only are these buses (and other traffic of course) now clogging up the already clogged streets of Fulham (especially Wandsworth Bridge Road), but the glee that the drivers are taking in refusing to pick up any passengers on the diverted route is obscene. If ever there was exemplicication of the sadism of certain bus drivers this is it. I hope that their consciences allow them to rest easy at night. http://www.londontransport.co.uk/tfl...e_rt_bus.shtml Says that diverted buses on the 49 will serve all stops on the diversion. If they aren't, then have you complained to London Buses or direct to the operator of the 49 (London United)? And I would strongly recommend that you do complain as it is often the case, IME, that communication between management and drivers about diversions is lacking to say the least. I have had to vehemently complain about Arriva drivers in the past [1] as well as Stagecoach ones. First got a tick in the box as their drivers understood what the hell was going on. I agree it should not be necessary but in these sorts of emergency situations it can take more than attempt to get the message across to people at the wheel - never mind from TfL to the bus companies. [1] I was held hostage by a driver who had picked me up on a local planned and advertised diversion but completely refused to set me down at my local stop instead carrying me on for about another half a mile. Let's just say that London Buses and Arriva very quickly learnt what I thought about that! -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
In message , Clive
writes As the driver passes a fare stage he updates his ticket issuing equipment with the next code. How do you do this when you're off route? I don't think fare stages are still used in London. And how do you account for passengers that you accrue whilst off route? If they use Oyster it happens automatically. Otherwise I guess you just press the button that records a travel card or bus pass, or you take the little red Saver token or - once in a while - you take the flat fare in cash and issue a ticket. -- Paul Terry |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
... [1] I was held hostage by a driver who had picked me up on a local planned and advertised diversion but completely refused to set me down at my local stop instead carrying me on for about another half a mile. Let's just say that London Buses and Arriva very quickly learnt what I thought about that! I've found the 'open door' button above the exit door exceedingly effective in similar circumstances. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On 26 Sep 2005 06:33:03 -0700, "
wrote: I have to say that some of the responses here rather suggest that some contributors to this forum seem to think that those big red things chugging along the road, for which we all pay through Council Tax etc., are there for some purpose OTHER than getting as many passengers from A to B (whether via C or D or whatever) as efficiently as possible and talk of extra stopping time, pirating or that they should not be picking up "off route" is sheer humbug. So? Many (most?) bus-stops are designated for certain buses only. I could stand at certain stops on Wood Green High Street and wave my arms as much as I like at a 329, but it isn't going to stop if that stop isn't designated for that service. -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:17:21 +0100, Clive
wrote: As the driver passes a fare stage he updates his ticket issuing equipment with the next code. How do you do this when you're off route? And how do you account for passengers that you accrue whilst off route? Are they insured etc.. -- What fare stages? London is now a flat-fare area. |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
Well, so as Thomas has helpfully pointed out to all of the
jobsworth-mentality replies: the 49s ARE supposed to be picking up at all stops off route. So, come on jobsworths, let's hear your spleen vented against the jobsworth drivers who are NOT doing what they are paid to do! As for complaining to London Buses, Paul, - yes, I attempted to do so but was put on hold for so long that I gave up. My experience is that so often buses ON ROUTE fail to stop at compulsory stops, which again, jobsworths take note, they are SUPPOSED to do, even if no passenger is at the stop or nobody has rung the bell. # And, Clive, as far as buses running on or off route - you are clearly living in the past as far as the 295 is concerned; it regularly goes off route at the Clapham Junction end due to heavy traffic a the top end of Plough Lane, and deposits passengers at the wrong side of Clapham Junction station, ensuring a 10-minute walk for anyone who expected to be deposited ON ROUTE at the St. John's Hill side. The place that passengers are deposited is not even a bus stop of any sort! Laurence, you say "What would YOUR face, as the driver, be showing? A reluctance to catch the eye of passengers you COULD serve but have been instructed not to?": Clearly the drivers are refusing to catch the passengers' eye because they are being bloody minded and doing precisely what they are NOT supposed to be doing - refusing to pick up at stops on the diversion. Marc. |
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In message , Laurence Payne
writes What fare stages? London is now a flat-fare area. To passengers this is true, but the fare collecting machines still have to be updated by the driver at Fare stages or Compulsory stops as you call them, of which none will be off route. -- Clive |
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On 26 Sep 2005 16:38:02 -0700, "
wrote: My experience is that so often buses ON ROUTE fail to stop at compulsory stops, which again, jobsworths take note, they are SUPPOSED to do, even if no passenger is at the stop or nobody has rung the bell. Wouldn't it make sense to remove these, except at bus stations and the likes? Nowhere else in the country has them, and IMX[1] people ring the bell and/or put their hand out anyway. The alternative would of course be to go for the German approach of "stop if someone is at the stop unless they indicate otherwise". This has the advantage that you don't get buses overtaking buses which results in people missing them. [1] For some reason, that I'm yet to work out, people often don't signal the bus to stop in Milton Keynes; they just stand in a "I look like I'm waiting for the bus" place, even on hail-and-ride routes. To their great credit, the drivers are pretty good at working this out, which is probably why it continues - but I wonder where this idea comes from? Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK When replying please use neil at the above domain 'wensleydale' is a spam trap and is not read. |
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In message , Clive
writes but the fare collecting machines still have to be updated by the driver at Fare stages or Compulsory stops as you call them I recall this being mentioned here before, but does anyone know *why* this is done? -- Paul Terry |
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On 26 Sep 2005 16:38:02 -0700, "
wrote: Well, so as Thomas has helpfully pointed out to all of the jobsworth-mentality replies: the 49s ARE supposed to be picking up at all stops off route. So, come on jobsworths, let's hear your spleen vented against the jobsworth drivers who are NOT doing what they are paid to do! What? Now you've shifted the goal-posts? You were kicking off when you didn't even know the buses in question are (allegedly) supposed to stop on the diversion, so people pointed out why buses shouldn't necessarily stop on diversions. -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
Bus diversion due to closure of Battersea Bridge
No, Nick, how have I shifted the goalposts?
I "kicked off" when buses failed to stop - when I had suspected they are supposed to, since that is what has happened in other diversions of which I have known, but did not know at that stage that a public announcement had been made confirming what I had suspected. So, having had my suspicions confirmed, I am even more justified in criticising drivers for not stopping. By doing so they are not only acting without any human feeling whatsoever, they are actually in breach of their employment contracts. Let me make it clear however, that I would have been justified in my criticism even if drivers had not been instructed to stop on diversion stops. In the general betterment of humanity, i.e. moving as many passengers as efficiently as possible, I have yet to read a single cogent argument against buses stopping on diversion. They are meant to be providing a SERVICE to US: our fares and taxes are not merely being paid so as to provide comfortable seats for drivers to occupy whilst their virtually empty buses move at crawling pace on a diversion. Let me also make it clear that, in all things, as a human being I would act as my CONSCIENCE dictated in any event and, if my bus was held up in a traffic jam opposite a long queue of people, I personally could not have failed to open the door to see if I could offer assistance. In the unlikely event that this led to disciplinary action against me, I'd be more than happy to fight my case and no Industrial Tribunal in the country would (if it went that far) uphold a dismissal for such an act of human decency. Marc. |
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On 27 Sep 2005 05:10:07 -0700, "
wrote: Let me also make it clear that, in all things, as a human being I would act as my CONSCIENCE dictated in any event and, if my bus was held up in a traffic jam opposite a long queue of people, I personally could not have failed to open the door to see if I could offer assistance. In the unlikely event that this led to disciplinary action against me, I'd be more than happy to fight my case and no Industrial Tribunal in the country would (if it went that far) uphold a dismissal for such an act of human decency. Yeah. And when I catch the last 'bus home, which terminates at the hospital (don't we all :-) but then continues to the depot past the end of my road, it's only common decency for the driver to give me a lift. But he's in trouble if he's caught doing it. |
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In message . com,
" writes Let me also make it clear that, in all things, as a human being I would act as my CONSCIENCE dictated in any event and, if my bus was held up in a traffic jam opposite a long queue of people, I personally could not have failed to open the door to see if I could offer assistance. In the unlikely event that this led to disciplinary action against me, I'd be more than happy to fight my case and no Industrial Tribunal in the country would (if it went that far) uphold a dismissal for such an act of human decency. You've got your head in the clouds. To keep down costs busses are only insured on their approved routes and to pick someone up whilst off route is against the law insurance wise. I wouldn't bet on your keeping your job if anything went wrong, let alone not being prosecuted by the police. -- Clive |
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Yeah, well, Laurence, I'm not talking about a driver going out of his
way, onto unrecognised (and therefore uninsured) streets. Just to open his door and take a few passengers onto his otherwise virtually empty bus. That, it would seem, from the tenor of some of the replies here, to be thoroughly unreasonable. Gosh, I'd just LOVE to experience the pleasures of being a jobsworth, just once! As it is, I'm self-employed and I deployed that sort of attitude I'd be bankrupt by now. Marc. |
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You've got your head in the clouds.
Maybe, but at least I sleep well at night. To keep down costs busses are only insured on their approved routes and to pick someone up whilst off route is against the law insurance wise. So why does the TFL Website say that they WILL pick up off-route? I wouldn't bet on your keeping your job if anything went wrong, let alone not being prosecuted by the police. I'd like to know what criminal offence was being occasioned by picking up a passenger off route! And just WHAT is more likely to go wrong in picking up a passenger at a recognised bus stop off route than on route? As for losing one's job, if the career structure is: jobsworth bus drivers become jobsworth London Buses or whatever officials, and up the TFL hierarchy, then yes maybe they would be dullard enough to discipline a driver for being a human being instead of an automaton. Marc. |
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On 27 Sep 2005 07:19:42 -0700, "
wrote: Yeah, well, Laurence, I'm not talking about a driver going out of his way, onto unrecognised (and therefore uninsured) streets. Neither was I. The lift home is along a route served by his company, just not the route he was actually operating at that time. He knew the road - it's his route home to the depot. You really need to READ a post before trying to knock it down in flames :-) |
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On 27 Sep 2005 07:25:04 -0700, "
wrote: As for losing one's job, if the career structure is: jobsworth bus drivers become jobsworth London Buses or whatever officials, and up the TFL hierarchy, then yes maybe they would be dullard enough to discipline a driver for being a human being instead of an automaton. Don't be silly. The career route is: 'Bus driver stays as 'bus driver until he gets ****ed off and tries another job. Rich ******* (or wanabee rich *******) tenders for a contract to run one or more tfl routes. No career path whatsoever between the two. |
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Sorry, Laurence, I wasn't aiming to be offensive or knock down your
message, but I can clearly see the difference between (a) a bus running on a long diverted route picking up other routes' passengers whilst on that diversion (my scenario) and (b) a bus running "light" to the garage at the end of a shift (I sometimes see a 295 running empty the whole way between Clapham Junction where his shift ended and Westbourne Park Garage some 5 or 6 miles away) when the bus is not scheduled to run. The difference is, in (a) the driver is merely carrying a few more passengers than he would have carried anyway, whilst in (b) he is running beyond his route and would clearly not be expected to carry passengers for various reasons. Marc. |
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Sorry, Laurence, that's why I said "London Buses" or "TFL" and not
"Stagecoach" or whatever. I agree that there is probably no career move from bus driver to private bus company tycoon (although isn't that how Blue Triangle and some others actually started?!). There is, though I would suggest, a logical progression from bus driver to inspector to scheduler to junior manager and higher. That most certainly would have happened in London Transport days and there is no logical reason why that should still not happen. Marc. |
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Paul Terry typed
In message , Clive writes but the fare collecting machines still have to be updated by the driver at Fare stages or Compulsory stops as you call them I recall this being mentioned here before, but does anyone know *why* this is done? So that someone can verify the validity and purchase time & place of a ticket to Revenue Protection? -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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In message , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes Paul Terry typed In message , Clive writes but the fare collecting machines still have to be updated by the driver at Fare stages or Compulsory stops as you call them I recall this being mentioned here before, but does anyone know *why* this is done? So that someone can verify the validity and purchase time & place of a ticket to Revenue Protection? Setting a fare stage doesn't affect the time, which is stamped automatically by the ticket machine. Why does the place matter? -- Paul Terry |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:45:41 +0100, Paul Terry
wrote: In message , Helen Deborah Vecht writes Paul Terry typed I recall this being mentioned here before, but does anyone know *why* this is done? So that someone can verify the validity and purchase time & place of a ticket to Revenue Protection? Setting a fare stage doesn't affect the time, which is stamped automatically by the ticket machine. Why does the place matter? Drivers (on TfL services), are now only supposed to enter a farestage at the start of a trip, and when they enter/leave the cash free zone. The place, which is printed on the ticket, would only matter in case of a dispute. Changing the farestage also makes an entry on the drivers module, which is downloaded at the end of their duty. -- Thomas Covenant Please observe reply to Address. Unsolicited mail to "From" address deleted unread. |
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In message 1127852161.afde6c354dc33caf24e8eb4b533e295e@teran ews,
Thomas Covenant writes Changing the farestage also makes an entry on the drivers module, which is downloaded at the end of their duty. My son is a bus driver and all the relevant info like time, where, how much cash taken, return tickets cancelled multi stage tickets issued are all on the module downloaded at the end of each shift. -- Clive |
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