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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:00:48 +0100, Paul paulroberthill wrote: I agree. There's nothing worse than being on a bus going to somewhere you're not familiar with. Yes there is. Try sitting through "Woman In White" :-) Ah, but it's not so bad. By buying Woman In White tickets you (probably) helped pay my salary! -- Paul |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:13:04 +0100, Paul
wrote: Yes there is. Try sitting through "Woman In White" :-) Ah, but it's not so bad. By buying Woman In White tickets you (probably) helped pay my salary! I was the guest of a cast member. Though doubtless HE paid, unless His Lordship was feeling peculiarly generous :-) |
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In message , Ian Jelf
writes Trying to persuade some of my LU colleagues to use a bus when it is more convenient than the Tube can prove somewhat challenging! "But it's a bus?!" I turned up to a training course north of Wolverhampton by 'bus once. No-one else on it could believe that I'd done so. It was as thought I'd just announced a breakthrough in nuclear fusion. No one wanted me to go back by bus though; everyone felt obliged to offer me a lift! I get that too when I appear at places. Even though I'm happy to use the bus/train and get free travel too, people still feel sorry for me and want to give me a lift. They often get quite offended too when I say I'm happy to get home on the bus/train too - even though I would be taking them out of their way to do it. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:54:42 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote: "Paul Corfield" wrote in message .. . Much of this was also covered in a superb Berlin Atlas that shows all the transport routes overlaid on a very clear street atlas complete with schematic diagrams and frequency guides for every bus, tram and U Bahn line. First and last times are included together with times between every stop and what routes you can interchange to at each stop. Their stop specific information is also a model of clarity. Please can we have this for London !!!!!! Have you considered how large it would be? Berlin is a tiny city by comparison with London, and yet the Berlin atlas is too large already. fair point John but I feel that we need much better quality and detailed information in London. The dumbed down approach of TfL is something I strongly dislike. If push came to shove you could produce a more than adequate Berlin Atlas style book that matched the current quadrant London bus maps. The current local guides with their lack of maps and provision of spider diagrams that can still completely miss whole routes within an area [1] are not very good at all. [1] the Walthamstow guide does not show the 123 - a main trunk route - because none of the spider maps are located at a place served by the route. This is lunacy given that it is the main way, with a change of bus, to get from Walthamstow to places like Gants Hill and Ilford. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Paul wrote [...] I agree. There's nothing worse than being on a bus going to somewhere you're not familiar with. You have to hope there is a shop sign or road name that will give a clue to the location. But there has been a recent improvement in London's bus stops (and some elsewhere) with location information added to the bus stop sign. Indeed all over Britain road signs at junctions now tell you, eg, "Crooked Billet Roundabout" (which matches the traffic reports anyway) -- Mike D |
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In article , Paul Corfield
writes me - "Oh South London, I just went to see what it was like and how to get there on a bus." friend - "on a bus? you must be mad" Some years ago I had a two-night stay somewhere in New Joisey. On both evenings I took a train (PATH, more precisely) into Manhattan to meet up with friends. On the second evening the other person (a banker) asked me what I had done the previous evening. Me: I met up with a friend and we rode around the subway. He: You rode the *subway*? For **fun**?!? -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes In article , Paul Corfield writes me - "Oh South London, I just went to see what it was like and how to get there on a bus." friend - "on a bus? you must be mad" Some years ago I had a two-night stay somewhere in New Joisey. On both evenings I took a train (PATH, more precisely) into Manhattan to meet up with friends. On the second evening the other person (a banker) asked me what I had done the previous evening. Me: I met up with a friend and we rode around the subway. He: You rode the *subway*? For **fun**?!? Well he *was* a banker....... Actually, talk of New Jersey has just reminded me of a story I may have recounted here before. In about 1993 I went with a group of Tramway Museum Society members on my first trip to the US. While staying in New York, three or four of us went early one morning over to Newark to ride on the then PCC cars running there. We were standing on an overbridge above Heller Parkway when a local (?) lady came along and said, in a rather puzzled way, "Why are you photographing the trolleys?". One of us began his reply with "Well, we're from England and......." and she said simply "Oh *right*" and walked off, as though possession of English nationality immediately explained any kind of eccentric behaviour. It is a national trait of which I for one am very proud! :-) -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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