"Robert Woolley" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:44:12 +0100, "Dave Arquati"
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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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OK, try here, http://www.tps.org.uk/

That's excellent, thanks.

Dave, Imperial College runs an excellent MSc in Transport jointly with
UCL!

Yes, I know... unfortunately although there's an extensive list of degrees
you might have to be able to take it (civil engineering, maths, computing,
geography, environmental science etc), I happen to be on what is probably
THE most unrelated course that Imperial does (biochemistry!). I challenge
anyone to find a link between Biochemistry (incidentally I'm already on an
MSc, although I can always change that) and Transport :-)

I'm very tempted to go and pester the transport department to find out more
anyway - but I'm not back in London until September.

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Richard J. wrote:
"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Richard J. wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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This isn't strictly a London matter, but it could be I
suppose!
I'm looking for an online resource where I can learn the
basics of transport science.

What exactly is "transport science"? I can think of all
kinds of different disciplines that are relevant to
transport -- engineering, physics, mathematics, economics,
etc etc, but I am not aware of anything called transport
science. What is it?

A catch all term for the subjects you've just mentioned.

If so, it's not a science.

Some people seem able to make anything into a "science", even common
sense!

Also, it seems very unlikely
that there is one resource where you can learn the basics
of everything from moving-block signalling to rural bus
subsidies.

Very likely true. But I would have thought that the library at Imperial
College would be a good place to start. :-)

And I'll be sure to go as soon as I get back to Imperial :-) For the
meantime it's Luton Central Library...

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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:30:06 +0100, "Dave Arquati"
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I'm very tempted to go and pester the transport department to find out more
anyway - but I'm not back in London until September.
Dave -email me privately, I might be able to help...

Rob.
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rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

From: "Dave Arquati"
Date: 19/07/2003 00:02 GMT Daylight Time

I was thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows
are studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how traffic flows around
cities or pedestrians around stations), an introduction to how they are
modelled, those sort of ideas if you can understand what I'm after (although
with very little knowledge of the area to begin with, it's difficult to
define).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7


Right! Now we seem to be on track after a few false starts with train spotters
assuming transport is all railways and that nothing else matters. There's
probably a later edition than this now but I would suggest as a starting point:

Bruton, M J (1975): "Introduction to Transportation Planning" (2nd Edn),
London: Hutchinson & Co.

Good on mathematical modelling without getting too heavy for beginners to
grapple with. Plenty of equations, but all supported by detailed written
explanations of what they do and where the terms in them come from. Deals with
road traffic, but not passenger movements around large railway stations though
(which, oddly enough, might be the kind of thing you'd find in an architecture
text rather than a transport one; but which particular text I couldn't say as
I'm not an architect).

Acrosticus wrote:
From: "Dave Arquati"
Date: 19/07/2003 00:02 GMT Daylight Time

I was thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows
are studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how
traffic flows around cities or pedestrians around
stations), an introduction to how they are modelled, those
sort of ideas if you can understand what I'm after
(although with very little knowledge of the area to begin
with, it's difficult to define).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7


Right! Now we seem to be on track after a few false starts
with train spotters assuming transport is all railways and
that nothing else matters. There's probably a later edition
than this now but I would suggest as a starting point:

Bruton, M J (1975): "Introduction to Transportation
Planning" (2nd Edn), London: Hutchinson & Co.

Good on mathematical modelling without getting too heavy
for beginners to grapple with. Plenty of equations, but all
supported by detailed written explanations of what they do
and where the terms in them come from. Deals with road
traffic, but not passenger movements around large railway
stations though (which, oddly enough, might be the kind of
thing you'd find in an architecture text rather than a
transport one; but which particular text I couldn't say as
I'm not an architect).

If the most constructive thing you can do is to crticise someone who at
least amkes an attempt to help, and by so doing gets closer to what the
questioner want, then it simply demonstrates what a little person you are.

Good on mathematical modelling without getting too heavy for beginners to
grapple with. Plenty of equations, but all supported by detailed written
explanations of what they do and where the terms in them come from. Deals with
road traffic, but not passenger movements around large railway stations though
(which, oddly enough, might be the kind of thing you'd find in an architecture
text rather than a transport one; but which particular text I couldn't say as
I'm not an architect).


I have a vague idea that UCL's architecture dept has some kind of
commercial spinoff that models how pedestrians *really* behave. It had
quite a good web site that I looked at once upon a time

Also I seem to remember some Scottish firm that does traffic simulations
by taking a plan of the roads of interest, and letting loose a bunch of
software cars in a Monte Carlo simulation. Name "Paramics", or some
such. Again, they had a web site. It only takes two variables to
simulate any car on the road, apparently, but I've forgotten what the
variables were - I think aggressiveness was one.

Jeremy Parker

"Acrosticus" wrote in message
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From: "Dave Arquati"
Date: 19/07/2003 00:02 GMT Daylight Time

I was thinking mainly of the ways that transport flows
are studied and controlled, how they work (e.g. how traffic flows around
cities or pedestrians around stations), an introduction to how they are
modelled, those sort of ideas if you can understand what I'm after
(although
with very little knowledge of the area to begin with, it's difficult to
define).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7


Right! Now we seem to be on track after a few false starts with train
spotters
assuming transport is all railways and that nothing else matters. There's
probably a later edition than this now but I would suggest as a starting
point:

Bruton, M J (1975): "Introduction to Transportation Planning" (2nd Edn),
London: Hutchinson & Co.

Good on mathematical modelling without getting too heavy for beginners to
grapple with. Plenty of equations, but all supported by detailed written
explanations of what they do and where the terms in them come from. Deals
with
road traffic, but not passenger movements around large railway stations
though
(which, oddly enough, might be the kind of thing you'd find in an
architecture
text rather than a transport one; but which particular text I couldn't say
as
I'm not an architect).

Thanks, I'll look it up in the library.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7