Meeeee wrote:
Yeah and they've taken the arm-rests off..... what more do you want, the
moon on a stick?

I find the Victoria and Bakerloo lines by far the most comfortable of the
deep-level lines.

Raoul

Presumably he means ones like on the Northern, which tell you what the
next stop is etc, rather than like on the Picc (which just tell you
where the train terminates).

What's wrong with the Auto announcements?
--
Joe Patrick
Railways Online - for GB railway news, information & photos
http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk

Joe Patrick wrote:
Presumably he means ones like on the Northern, which tell you what
the next stop is etc, rather than like on the Picc (which just
tell you where the train terminates).

What's wrong with the Auto announcements?

The ones on the Piccadilly have the unfortunate side effect of switching
off the in-car destination displays, unless the driver resets them after
every announcement, which they often don't.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Meeeee wrote:
www.waspies.net wrote:

Metromess have already upgraded the Bakingloo by adding extra squeaks,
rattles and general heat and noise to the line,

Yeah and they've taken the arm-rests off..... what more do you want, the
moon on a stick?

Why did they do this, by the way? I now have to rub right up against
the fatty next to me, who spills into my seat. Should they not have to
pay 1 and a half fares to cover themselves?

D.

Why did they do this, by the way?

This was discussed here back in November 2002 (yes, I thought they were
taken off more recently as well) - http://tinyurl.com/8t3l4
The answer given was "in recognition of the fact that not every one is
the same width, and to stop the little s***s who snap the old ones off
and start fighting with them from having a rather nasty weapon."
--
Joe Patrick
Railways Online - for GB railway news, information & photos
http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk

Yes it is a very long wait for new stock, you would have thought they
would have ordered new stock the same time as the Victoria line or at
least the same time as the Piccadilly line stock. The reason that new
stock is not been ordered sooner is that the Bakerloo is seen somewhat
as a 'cinderella line' with it's passenger numbers a fraction of the
other tube lines. With all the problems that exist on some of the new
stock from the Central and Northern lines you do wonder whether when it
does have it's stock renewed it will end up being cascaded stock from
either Jubilee or Northern (Central stock apparently cannot be cascaded
without modification), I would not be surprised by then if some of the
nineties stock was being replaced due to reliability problems,
apparently a few years Tfl had severe worries about the long term
future of the Central line stock and replacement was even been
discussed and that is twenty years newer!!

If replacement is scheduled for 2019 also add a few years ie 2022/2023
as deadlines tend to come and go regarding new trains

Yes it has a very long wait for new stock, you would have thought they
would have ordered new stock the same time as the Victoria line or at
least the same time as the Piccadilly line stock. The reason that new
stock is not been ordered sooner is that the Bakerloo is seen somewhat
as a 'cinderella line' with it's passenger numbers a fraction of the
other tube lines. With all the problems that exist on some of the new
stock from the Central and Northern lines you do wonder whether when it
does have it's stock renewed it will end up being cascaded stock from
either Jubilee or Northern (Central stock apparently cannot be cascaded
without modification), I would not be surprised by then if some of the
nineties stock was being replaced due to reliability problems,
apparently a few years Tfl had severe worries about the long term
future of the Central line stock and replacement was even been
discussed and that is twenty years newer!!

If replacement is scheduled for 2019 also add a few years ie 2022/2023
as deadlines tend to come and go regarding new trains