Richard Collier wrote:

and every time you give it to your partner you ad she and breaking the
law and stealing from those of us who think that paying your way is
right and of course also stealing from every council tax-payer in
London.

Please explain how using somebody elses Oyster card, unless it is a
travel card, is stealing. If I lent my prepay to my partner to use then
the prepay is used up just the same as if I had used it.
Surely prepay is just like cash.

Kevin

and every time you give it to your partner you ad she and breaking the
law and stealing from those of us who think that paying your way is
right and of course also stealing from every council tax-payer in
London.

Please explain how using somebody elses Oyster card, unless it is a
travel card, is stealing. If I lent my prepay to my partner to use then
the prepay is used up just the same as if I had used it.
Surely prepay is just like cash.

The previous poster was talking about a bus pass charged to an Oyster
Card which, unlike prepay, is non-transferable.

On 19 Oct 2005 00:33:12 -0700, wrote:

Please explain how using somebody elses Oyster card, unless it is a
travel card, is stealing. If I lent my prepay to my partner to use then
the prepay is used up just the same as if I had used it.
Surely prepay is just like cash.

We're not discussing prepay. Which is, as you say, transferrable.

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:16:56 +0200, "John of Aix"
wrote:

elyob wrote:
Anyway, what's the worries, they've got billions of cameras all over
the place recording your every move.

True but not quite the same. How much easier it would be to trace a
Londoner in his movements on public transport via a ticket machine and
his Oyster card use than have to pick him out from millions of reels of
video.

You don't have to pick him out for millions of reels of video, you
have to pick him out of one, then you can know his oyster ID even if
it's not registered...

Jim.

Jim Ley wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:16:56 +0200, "John of Aix"
wrote:

elyob wrote:
Anyway, what's the worries, they've got billions of cameras all over
the place recording your every move.

True but not quite the same. How much easier it would be to trace a
Londoner in his movements on public transport via a ticket machine
and his Oyster card use than have to pick him out from millions of
reels of video.

You don't have to pick him out for millions of reels of video, you
have to pick him out of one, then you can know his oyster ID even if
it's not registered...

Yes but it isn't a question of getting his card number, we're assuming
the've got that. I am saying that despite the zillions of cameras it
would be far easier to find his general movements through his Oyster
card use than trawling through reels of tapes to find where and when he
appears.

"Jon D" wrote in message
...
I don't much like the idea of the Oystercard people being able to
look up each and every journey I ever make by tube.

I've nothing to hide and I don't seek complete anonymity. But I do
think this is too much of an invasion of my privacy.

Can someone here help me with my questions:

---

(1) Is it possible to buy an Oystercard with a false name/address
and have no problems when I use it on account of the false details?

(2) Presumably refunds get credited direct to the Oystercard (if I
phone customer services) so there is no need for my postal address.

(3) Is there anything of importance which Oyster would ever need to
send to my postal address?

Really depends on what kind of Oyster you have.
If you have a prepay or a weekly travelcard then you don't have to give them
your name and address anyway.
Unresolved journeys or refunds can be re-credited to your Oystercard instead
of a cheque.
And they are transferable as prepay is the same as cash really. And a paper
weekly travelcard became transferable
when they took away the photocard requirement.

For monthly and annual Travelcards then you still have to register and give
details of name and address.
Unresolved journeys and refunds should still be re-credited to your Oyster
but they can also send you a cheque.
You've got to give them your photocard number so they have a nice mug shot
of you somewhere.

As for the Oystercard data and access to it. Then I guess its protected by
the data protection act.
But of course if you do something illegal then i'm sure the authorities can
access the data.
Much like the tracking device (aka mobile phone) you have in your pocket.
Do you have a prepay phone for the same reasons?

A.

Unresolved journeys or refunds can be re-credited to your Oystercard instead
of a cheque.

This is not always the case - for refunds organised via helpdesk you have to be
able to specify a station you will pass through in the next 7 days otherwise its cheque
only.

You've got to give them your photocard number so they have a nice mug shot
of you somewhere.

Photocards are no longer required for full rate Oyster Cards. Those customers that
need a photo (student/under16) the Oyster Card has your picture printed on it.

"TKD" wrote in message
...
Unresolved journeys or refunds can be re-credited to your Oystercard
instead
of a cheque.

This is not always the case - for refunds organised via helpdesk you have
to be
able to specify a station you will pass through in the next 7 days
otherwise its cheque
only.


That's so they can arrange to take your picture as you collect the refund.
And don't forget, they photograph everyone as they buy the oyster card so
they already have your picture (probably)

"Steve and Debs" wrote in message
...

"TKD" wrote in message
...
Unresolved journeys or refunds can be re-credited to your Oystercard
instead
of a cheque.

This is not always the case - for refunds organised via helpdesk you have
to be
able to specify a station you will pass through in the next 7 days
otherwise its cheque
only.


That's so they can arrange to take your picture as you collect the refund.
And don't forget, they photograph everyone as they buy the oyster card so
they already have your picture (probably)

You have to specify the station, so that the local computer at that station
is updated, so that it is able to transfer the credit onto your card.
If each gate had to check with a central computer before allowing u thru,
the system would be too slow, hence the distributed network.

peter

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:11:23 +0100, "londoncityslicker"
wrote:

If you have a prepay or a weekly travelcard then you don't have to give them
your name and address anyway.
Unresolved journeys or refunds can be re-credited to your Oystercard instead
of a cheque.

Only if the journey needing to be corrected is the last one on your
Oystercard (in which case you can get it fixed at a Tube ticket
office). No other refunds are available on unregistered cards.