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Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
Hi all,
There seemed to be about a hundred buses in Notting Hill last Sunday, blocking both sides of (I think) Westbourne Grove. They seemed to be all red, and there were no cars between them, just solid bus. The police had closed off the road. What was all that about? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
Was it Evel Knievels 75th Birthday bash...???
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Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Alek wrote:
Was it Evel Knievels 75th Birthday bash...??? Nah - the bus drivers are having their own version of Critical Mass, innit. tom -- 24-Hour Monkey-Vision! |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
John Rowland wrote:
Bus jam? This recycling thing is going too far. |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li... Nah - the bus drivers are having their own version of Critical Mass, innit. No, they were meeting to discuss the latest snarly expressions they can give to passengers, the newest verbal insults and which are the best manoeuvres to use to fling standing passengers to the floor. Ian |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
It was the 5th annual Cockney Busmens Holiday Cor Blimey Guv I should bleedin CoCo They Convoy en-masse out west before doing a sharp left over Battersea bridge and around the South Circular to Penge Izerntit |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Ian F." wrote in message "Tom Anderson" wrote in message h.li... Nah - the bus drivers are having their own version of Critical Mass, innit. No, they were meeting to discuss the latest snarly expressions they can give to passengers, the newest verbal insults and which are the best manoeuvres to use to fling standing passengers to the floor. Ian Or perhaps they were meeting to discuss how best to deal with passengers who get on and refuse to pay, threatening to punch the drivers' lights out if they dare ask them to. Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
We need more of that in this country |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Moo Moo MhuttsAss" wrote in message oups.com We need more of that in this country More of what..? If you don't quote what you're replying to, how is anyone to know..? Ivor |
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Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
We got the bleedin trams there now innit |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Ivor Jones wrote:
"Moo Moo MhuttsAss" wrote in message oups.com We need more of that in this country More of what..? If you don't quote what you're replying to, how is anyone to know..? DOES NOT MATTER. MORE OF IT DAMMIT!!! tom -- Yulava? Niob Yam! |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Tom Anderson" wrote in message h.li On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Ivor Jones wrote: "Moo Moo MhuttsAss" wrote in message oups.com We need more of that in this country More of what..? If you don't quote what you're replying to, how is anyone to know..? DOES NOT MATTER. MORE OF IT DAMMIT!!! Taxes..? Petrol price rises..? Murders..? Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Vernon" wrote in message
... "John Rowland" wrote in message ... Hi all, There seemed to be ..... And you thought you would get a sensible answer? All the answers had some use, except yours. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
... Or perhaps they were meeting to discuss how best to deal with passengers who get on and refuse to pay, threatening to punch the drivers' lights out if they dare ask them to. I've never done, or even dreamed of doing, any such thing, yet I've been insulted, ignored and scowled at - and slung to the floor by abysmal driving - by countless bus drivers. Ian |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
passengers
who get on and refuse to pay, threatening to punch the drivers' lights out if they dare ask them to. Izerntit |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Ian F." wrote in message "Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... Or perhaps they were meeting to discuss how best to deal with passengers who get on and refuse to pay, threatening to punch the drivers' lights out if they dare ask them to. I've never done, or even dreamed of doing, any such thing, yet I've been insulted, ignored and scowled at - and slung to the floor by abysmal driving - by countless bus drivers. I would never dream of suggesting that you would try and evade payment, but an awful lot of people do. Come and travel on my bus and you will see what I mean. A large proportion (I won't say a majority, since it isn't, although it sometimes seems that way) of passengers in my area (Birmingham) seem to think it is perfectly normal and acceptable behaviour to not pay their bus fare. Requesting assistance over the radio from an inspector or the police is usually met with the reply "let them travel" - it's cheaper to let the passengers travel free than to pay the driver sick pay while he's off work having been assaulted. I ask you, what other business do you know of that actively permits its' customers to avail themselves of the goods or services supplied free of charge..?! The driver gets it in the neck (sometimes literally) if he/she dares to question this, with the appalling results that most drivers don't bother, meaning free travel has become normal and acceptable. By the way, I don't sling passengers to the floor (unless I am forced to do an emergency brake by an idiot car driver, which unfortunately happens on occasion) nor do I insult or scowl at people, unless they do the same to me first, that is, when I reserve the right to give as good as I get. Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
wrote in message oups.com passengers who get on and refuse to pay, threatening to punch the drivers' lights out if they dare ask them to. Izerntit Que..? Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
We want MORE of that ! |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Ivor Jones" wrote in message
... By the way, I don't sling passengers to the floor (unless I am forced to do an emergency brake by an idiot car driver, which unfortunately happens on occasion) nor do I insult or scowl at people, unless they do the same to me first, that is, when I reserve the right to give as good as I get. We need more of the likes of you in London, Ivor. The dour, pig-ignorant, slow-witted bunch of loonies that we have as bus-drivers (and this is the majority, not just a few) could do with your measured, intelligent attitude. Ian (ducks to escape slaps from the three Ivor-esque London bus-drivers on these groups!) |
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Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
wrote in message
... said: We want MORE of that ! More of what..? If you don't quote what you're replying to, how is anyone to know..? I'm getting a sense of deja vue...... |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Leyland_Leopard" wrote in message wrote in message ... said: We want MORE of that ! More of what..? If you don't quote what you're replying to, how is anyone to know..? I'm getting a sense of deja vue...... I've heard that somewhere before...! Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
Jeepers Ivor I did`nt think it would be that quick.....early this mornin the
driver of a No 27 stopped between stops to allow us pair of lost non-locals board his bus and then stopped well short of his stop to facilitate us gettin back to our hotel....One Brush and Tar does`nt always paint a true picture !! |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Alek" wrote in message Jeepers Ivor I did`nt think it would be that quick.....early this mornin the driver of a No 27 stopped between stops to allow us pair of lost non-locals board his bus and then stopped well short of his stop to facilitate us gettin back to our hotel....One Brush and Tar does`nt always paint a true picture !! True, but be wary of getting on and off between stops. If you trip and fall over the incident could be deemed not to be covered by company insurance, meaning you might not get any compensation and the driver would also be in trouble. If the management are anything like ours, that is..! Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... "Alek" wrote in message Jeepers Ivor I did`nt think it would be that quick.....early this mornin the driver of a No 27 stopped between stops to allow us pair of lost non-locals board his bus and then stopped well short of his stop to facilitate us gettin back to our hotel....One Brush and Tar does`nt always paint a true picture !! True, but be wary of getting on and off between stops. If you trip and fall over the incident could be deemed not to be covered by company insurance, meaning you might not get any compensation and the driver would also be in trouble. If the management are anything like ours, that is..! Or in other words "It's more van me jobsworf guv" |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
In message , Steve
and Debs writes Or in other words "It's more van me jobsworf guv" It's not the first and I don't suppose it'll be the last time that this old chestnut comes up. There's no really easy solution. "Imprison" someone in a bus stuck at traffic and they get irritated and it can lead to friction. Let them off and they get hurt and as Ivor says they'll sue (or try to). It's one reason I so prefer Routemasters in London. When the Oxford Street traffic bungs up you can just hop off. I've been very frustrated at being stuck on a 73 unable to do so on more than one occasion. For what it's worth, I think that if you leave between stops it should be at your own rest but then I'm no lawyer! -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Steve and Debs" wrote in message "Ivor Jones" wrote in message ... [snip] True, but be wary of getting on and off between stops. If you trip and fall over the incident could be deemed not to be covered by company insurance, meaning you might not get any compensation and the driver would also be in trouble. If the management are anything like ours, that is..! Or in other words "It's more van me jobsworf guv" Make fun of it if you like, but it is a serious issue. I have seen people seriously injured trying to get on/off away from stops. I don't want the hassle, thanks. Is it really worth it to save walking a few yards..? Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
"Ian Jelf" wrote in message [snip] For what it's worth, I think that if you leave between stops it should be at your own rest but then I'm no lawyer! Fine, I have no problem with that in principle, but I want a letter from the company chief executive exonerating me from all blame in the event of an incident should I let someone on/off away from a stop. Somehow I don't think I would get one if I asked..! Ivor |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
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Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
Colin Rosenstiel wrote in uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Oct 2005
00:51 +0100 (BST) : In article , lid (Ivor Jones) wrote: Make fun of it if you like, but it is a serious issue. I have seen people seriously injured trying to get on/off away from stops. I don't want the hassle, thanks. Is it really worth it to save walking a few yards..? Once upon a time people were responsible for their own safety, before Nanny State intervened. :-( IIRC the previous more relaxed and laissez-faire arrangements for replacement railway bus services were tightened after a private claim was taken out against a bus company (and BR) by a woman who broke her leg on getting off the bus at the end of her road rather than at the station. I'm not quite sure how you can blame the "Nanny State" for her claim. -- hike - a walking tour or outing, esp. of the self-conscious kind Chambers 20th Century Dictionary |
Bus jam in Notting Hill last Sunday
In article ,
] (Dave Hillam) wrote: Colin Rosenstiel wrote in uk.transport.london on Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:51 +0100 (BST) : In article , lid (Ivor Jones) wrote: Make fun of it if you like, but it is a serious issue. I have seen people seriously injured trying to get on/off away from stops. I don't want the hassle, thanks. Is it really worth it to save walking a few yards..? Once upon a time people were responsible for their own safety, before Nanny State intervened. :-( IIRC the previous more relaxed and laissez-faire arrangements for replacement railway bus services were tightened after a private claim was taken out against a bus company (and BR) by a woman who broke her leg on getting off the bus at the end of her road rather than at the station. I'm not quite sure how you can blame the "Nanny State" for her claim. The courts are part of the state. Why they stopped expecting people to take any responsibility for their own safety I don't know. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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