On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Masson"
wrote:


You can get to Dartford or Swanley using a Travelcard, but you have to
travel by bus. The Cannon Street - Sidcup - Abbey Wood - Cannon Street
roundabout trains stray across the GL boundary between Crayford and Slade
Green, but a Zone 6 Travelcard is valid.

Peter

You can get to Slough (route 81), Dorking (route 465), Redhill (route
405) and Watford Junction (routes 142/258) by Travelcard - but only on
the bus...

Rob.
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
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On Thursday, in article

"Nick" wrote:


Are there any precedents for stations outside the Greater London
boundary
being in the Travelcard area?

Mainly the Met Line past Northwood, but if you were to consider buses
also, then there are dozens, some for considerable distances (e.g.
St Albans).

As explained elsewhere in this thread, the only Met Line station outside
Greater London but within Travelcard Zone 6 is Moor Park. Special fares
apply to stations beyond Moor Park. Quite a bit of the easternm end of the
Central Line is outside Greater London, but it has been brought into Zone 6
right out to Epping. See elsewhere in the thread for NR stations within Zone
6 but outside Greater London.

Peter

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 04:51:47 +0000 (UTC),
(Charles Ellson) wrote:

On Thursday, in article

"Nick" wrote:


Are there any precedents for stations outside the Greater London boundary
being in the Travelcard area?

Mainly the Met Line past Northwood, but if you were to consider buses
also, then there are dozens, some for considerable distances (e.g.
St Albans).

You can't get to St. Albans with a Travelcard. The availability on the
84 finishes at Potters Bar.

Charles Ellson writes
What 'obsession' is this?

The same obsession which runs parallel to claiming to be the "capital
city" and naming the county hall "City Hall" when GL isn't a city.

What else can they call it? It's not a county - and in any event
there's already a place called County Hall.

It has also spread to road signs where various places have been
omitted/deleted and replaced by compass-point London where the road
doesn't even lead to London or to a sensible approach route for the
signed part of London.snip

If you think a sign is misleading or inaccurate, then take it up with
TfL of your local Borough as appropriate.

Of course what you think of as a sensible route and what others think of
as a sensible route may be completely different.

--
Dave

Charles Ellson writes
Are there any precedents for stations outside the Greater London boundary
being in the Travelcard area?

Mainly the Met Line past Northwood,

Only Moor Park. There are many others, examples of which have been
posted here.

but if you were to consider buses also, then there are dozens, some for
considerable distances (e.g. St Albans).

84 isn't a TfL route (and hasn't been a 'London' route for many, many
years), but is a commercial service operated by Metroline. I wouldn't
have thought that Travelcards & Freedom Passes would be valid all the
way to St Albans - Potters Bar is more likely to be the limit of
validity.

Compare with 81 to Slough, which is a TfL route.

--
Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Charles Ellson writes
Are there any precedents for stations outside the Greater London
boundary
being in the Travelcard area?

Mainly the Met Line past Northwood,

Only Moor Park. There are many others, examples of which have been
posted here.

but if you were to consider buses also, then there are dozens, some for
considerable distances (e.g. St Albans).

84 isn't a TfL route (and hasn't been a 'London' route for many, many
years), but is a commercial service operated by Metroline. I wouldn't
have thought that Travelcards & Freedom Passes would be valid all the
way to St Albans - Potters Bar is more likely to be the limit of
validity.

Compare with 81 to Slough, which is a TfL route.

Is that the route that (near enough) follows the A4 from Hounslow?

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:34:32 +0100, "Bondee"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Charles Ellson writes
Are there any precedents for stations outside the Greater London
boundary
being in the Travelcard area?

Mainly the Met Line past Northwood,

Only Moor Park. There are many others, examples of which have been
posted here.

but if you were to consider buses also, then there are dozens, some for
considerable distances (e.g. St Albans).

84 isn't a TfL route (and hasn't been a 'London' route for many, many
years), but is a commercial service operated by Metroline. I wouldn't
have thought that Travelcards & Freedom Passes would be valid all the
way to St Albans - Potters Bar is more likely to be the limit of
validity.

Compare with 81 to Slough, which is a TfL route.

Is that the route that (near enough) follows the A4 from Hounslow?

It follows the _old_ A4 via Colnbrook.

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

"Steve Naïve" wrote in message
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Robert Woolley wrote in
:

You can get to Slough (route 81), Dorking (route 465),
Redhill (route 405) and Watford Junction (routes 142/258)
by Travelcard - but only on the bus...

That's fantastic - all the way to Slough (and back) for £2
from south London, in about 2 hours.

GBP2 buys a Bus Pass, not a Travelcard.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"Robert Woolley" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:34:32 +0100, "Bondee"
wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
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Compare with 81 to Slough, which is a TfL route.

Is that the route that (near enough) follows the A4 from Hounslow?

It follows the _old_ A4 via Colnbrook.

And via Hounslow!

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"D7666" wrote in message
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The problem with this is where will it end.

If zone 6 is extended to include stations which are currently
just outside the existing area, then any stations which then lie
outsdie an enlarged area look as if they can be justified too.

There are few places where a train journey from one part of the zone system
to another can be most quickly performed by going outside the zones.
Dartford and Epsom are the only two obvious ones: perhaps Cheshunt and
Epsom
Downs / Tattenham Corner as well.

St Mary Cray - Knockholt (via Sevenoaks)?

Peter Smyth