"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
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In message .com, Andrea
writes
Are there ever any ticket inspections on the London Underground? Yes,
there are barriers at all stations but I would have thought that LUL
would also have roving patrols of inspectors randomly checking tickets
on board tube trains to catch any fare dodgers?


Now you mention it I seem to constantly get stopped by inspectors on WAGN,
but it must be 5 years or more since I was stopped by an inspector on the
tube.

I've never seen an on train check.

OK, so it's 10 years since I was a regular user,
but for the 20 years before that I was.

tim

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

John Band wrote:
"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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And why does a ticket (e.g. a Saver Return) to Putney (SWT)
cost so much more than one to Underground Zones 1 and 2?

That annoys me too! I think to Putney we pay three bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer
3. London - Putney

Wheras to East Putney we pay two bits:
1. - London
2. Cross London tube transfer

It's an irritating pricing structure because there are many
journeys from the Putney area to Central London which are much
quicker and much less congested as Train + Tube rather than Tube
+ Tube + Tube. But the quicker and less congested one costs
about twice as much

Indeed. So when is Ken going to sort this out?

When(/if) he gets given any kind of power over the NR fare
structure. Obviously TfL would prefer all rail travel within the
zones to be ticketed in the same way as Tube/DLR, but the London
TOCs aren't keen on this...

Meanwhile, the quicker, less congested, and mostly air-conditioned
service costs more. Is that so unfair?

Aircon to Putney? Don't make me laugh!

I'm not being funny. The 4tph service between Waterloo and the Hounslow
Loop which stops at Putney has been air-conditioned (Desiro class 450)
since December 2004. AFAIK the Windsor trains that provide a 2tph
service at Putney are also Desiro-worked. That leaves the 4tph Kingston
loop service which I believe is still worked with Class 455. So that's
6 out of 10 tph off-peak which are air-conditioned. I think it's
similar in the peaks.
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Richard J.
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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

Aircon to Putney? Don't make me laugh!

I'm not being funny. The 4tph service between Waterloo and the
Hounslow Loop which stops at Putney has been air-conditioned (Desiro
class 450) since December 2004. AFAIK the Windsor trains that provide a
2tph service at Putney are also Desiro-worked. That leaves the 4tph
Kingston loop service which I believe is still worked with Class 455.
So
that's 6 out of 10 tph off-peak which are air-conditioned. I think it's
similar in the peaks.

OIC. If the fares were more sensible I might have noticed better, then.
Mind you we always called it the Kingston roundabout service.

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Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:16 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

So it doesn't even know where the NR bit is, e.g. whether it
logically comes before or after the LU journey? Or where the LU &
ticket destinations are? How strange.

Not strange at all given that gates were not something entertained by
British Rail when LU decided to implement UTS. Why should a gate on
the LUL system need to know about Glasgow or Barnes or Leeds? - all NR
destinations that can appear on a ticket that might be shoved through
a LU gate. All it needs to check are the bits related to the LUL journey
and that is typically just in Zone 1. It would make the ticketing
system unnecessarily complex if it had to recognise NR destinations
because it would also need to recognise routing and the NR system can
barely cope with its own routing guide never mind foisting it on LU.

I wasn't saying that. It was just that a gate might recognise what a
ticket's destination was.

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Colin Rosenstiel