Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspap...867957,00.html

The Times reports proposals to rationalise the number of bus routes
running along Oxford Street down to two as part of plans to turn the
area into a boulevard. Would it be a feasible alternative to remove
buses completely and to build a tramway, offering more capacity than a
bendibus because multiple unit operation, from an interchange node at
Tottenham Court Road to one at Marble Arch, possibly as an extension of
the Cross London Tram proposals? (On a frivilous note one could
envisage illuminated trams to go with the Christmas Lights - although
they would no doubt be a pale shadow of those found in a place renowned
for its frolic and fun)

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

On 11 Nov 2005 01:44:51 -0800, "Bob"
wrote:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspap...867957,00.html

The Times reports proposals to rationalise the number of bus routes
running along Oxford Street down to two as part of plans to turn the
area into a boulevard. Would it be a feasible alternative to remove
buses completely and to build a tramway, offering more capacity than a
bendibus because multiple unit operation, from an interchange node at
Tottenham Court Road to one at Marble Arch, possibly as an extension of
the Cross London Tram proposals? (On a frivilous note one could
envisage illuminated trams to go with the Christmas Lights - although
they would no doubt be a pale shadow of those found in a place renowned
for its frolic and fun)

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.
--
Terry Harper
Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

"Bob" wrote in message
oups.com...

they would no doubt be a pale shadow of those found in a place renowned
for its frolic and fun)

pedant That'll be *fresh air* and fun! /pedant

;-)

Ian

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

Terry Harper wrote:
On 11 Nov 2005 01:44:51 -0800, "Bob"
wrote:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspap...867957,00.html

The Times reports proposals to rationalise the number of bus routes
running along Oxford Street down to two as part of plans to turn the
area into a boulevard. Would it be a feasible alternative to remove
buses completely and to build a tramway, offering more capacity than a
bendibus because multiple unit operation, from an interchange node at
Tottenham Court Road to one at Marble Arch, possibly as an extension of
the Cross London Tram proposals? (On a frivilous note one could
envisage illuminated trams to go with the Christmas Lights - although
they would no doubt be a pale shadow of those found in a place renowned
for its frolic and fun)

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So that everyone who shops there has to change bus at least once to get
home?

--
Larry Lard
Replies to group please

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So that everyone who shops there has to change bus at least once to get
home?

Or they can do what anyone else with more than half an ounce of common
sense does, and avoid shopping in Oxford Street (especially at this
time of year!)

:)

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So that everyone who shops there has to change bus at least once to get
home?

Or they can do what anyone else with more than half an ounce of common
sense does, and avoid shopping in Oxford Street (especially at this
time of year!)

:)

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So that everyone who shops there has to change bus at least once to get
home?

Or they can do what anyone else with more than half an ounce of common
sense does, and avoid shopping in Oxford Street (especially at this
time of year!)

:)

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So that everyone who shops there has to change bus at least once to get
home?

Or they can do what anyone else with more than half an ounce of common
sense does, and avoid shopping in Oxford Street (especially at this
time of year!)

:)

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So that everyone who shops there has to change bus at least once to get
home?

Or they can do what anyone else with more than half an ounce of common
sense does, and avoid shopping in Oxford Street (especially at this
time of year!)

:)

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

In message .com, M J
Forbes writes

Or they can do what anyone else with more than half an ounce of common
sense does, and avoid shopping in Oxford Street (especially at this
time of year!)

And so say all of us, five times over. :)

--
Paul Terry

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

M J Forbes wrote:
I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So that everyone who shops there has to change bus at least once to
get home?

Or they can do what anyone else with more than half an ounce of common
sense does, and avoid shopping in Oxford Street (especially at this
time of year!)

What about people who are simply on a bus going from somewhere that isn't
Oxford Street to somewhere else that isn't Oxford Street, say Bloomsbury to
Paddington?

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

"Terry Harper" wrote in message
...
On 11 Nov 2005 01:44:51 -0800, "Bob"
wrote:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspap...867957,00.html

The Times reports proposals to rationalise the number of bus routes
running along Oxford Street down to two as part of plans to turn the
area into a boulevard. Would it be a feasible alternative to remove
buses completely and to build a tramway, offering more capacity than a
bendibus because multiple unit operation, from an interchange node at
Tottenham Court Road to one at Marble Arch, possibly as an extension of
the Cross London Tram proposals? (On a frivilous note one could
envisage illuminated trams to go with the Christmas Lights - although
they would no doubt be a pale shadow of those found in a place renowned
for its frolic and fun)

I've always thought that they should take all the bus routes out of
Oxford Street and instead run a free service with the preserved
Routemasters (or RTs, for that matter) between Marble Arch and
Tottenham Court Road.

So people travelling to Victoria from North London have to change busses
twice on one street? :) Marvellous idea ;)

--
Terry Harper
Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:10:06 GMT, "d" wrote:

So people travelling to Victoria from North London have to change busses
twice on one street? :) Marvellous idea ;)

Of course not. You route the buses along parallel roads, with a lot
less congestion. You just don't send them nose to tail along Oxford
Street, taking far longer than walking to traverse the street.
--
Terry Harper
Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org

Oxford Street - Buses or Trams?
 

Terry Harper wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:10:06 GMT, "d" wrote:

So people travelling to Victoria from North London have to change busses
twice on one street? :) Marvellous idea ;)

Of course not. You route the buses along parallel roads, with a lot
less congestion. You just don't send them nose to tail along Oxford
Street, taking far longer than walking to traverse the street.

True - although they have to be routed onto several parallel streets for
that to work (i.e. not just shifting the bus jam onto another street).
Parallel roads are available for the western part of Oxford St (Wigmore
St, Brook St) but are a bit more difficult for the eastern part. Buses
that currently serve St Giles Circus will either go round a circuitous
route, miss St Giles entirely, or miss other key stops like Oxford
Circus. Then again, it depends whether they remove buses from all of
Oxford St or just the western part.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London