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Ian Jelf November 14th 05 10:36 AM

Basic Bus Information
 
I'm trying to find some basic bus information, along the lines of "What
is London Buses' longest/shortest bus route?" How many buses are in
London Buses service, that sort of thing. I thought there'd be a page
somewhere on the TfL site but a trawl of it (and Google) hasn't turned
up anything very reliable-looking.

Can anyone here point me in the right direction?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Paul November 14th 05 12:32 PM

Basic Bus Information
 

"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to find some basic bus information, along the lines of "What is
London Buses' longest/shortest bus route?" How many buses are in London
Buses service, that sort of thing. I thought there'd be a page somewhere
on the TfL site but a trawl of it (and Google) hasn't turned up anything
very reliable-looking.

Can anyone here point me in the right direction?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk


Ian

Can't find anything re the longest route but I believe the 140 is currently
claiming it, it does seem to change a lot!!!

What information re buses in service are you after, may be able to provide
from various LOTS publications

Paul



Vernon November 14th 05 12:46 PM

Basic Bus Information
 
"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
...

"What is London Buses' longest/shortest bus route?"


A variation could be "what route covers the greatest number of miles for the
shortest distance as the crow flies?" I would nominate the 466 as a
starter.



asdf November 14th 05 12:55 PM

Basic Bus Information
 
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:46:57 -0000, "Vernon"
wrote:

A variation could be "what route covers the greatest number of miles for the
shortest distance as the crow flies?" I would nominate the 466 as a
starter.


The H10?

Vernon November 14th 05 01:52 PM

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"asdf" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:46:57 -0000, "Vernon"
wrote:

A variation could be "what route covers the greatest number of miles for

the
shortest distance as the crow flies?" I would nominate the 466 as a
starter.


The H10?


:-)

Not quite what I was getting at, but I take your point!

:-)



Paul Corfield November 14th 05 03:52 PM

Basic Bus Information
 
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:36:32 +0000, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I'm trying to find some basic bus information, along the lines of "What
is London Buses' longest/shortest bus route?" How many buses are in
London Buses service, that sort of thing. I thought there'd be a page
somewhere on the TfL site but a trawl of it (and Google) hasn't turned
up anything very reliable-looking.

Can anyone here point me in the right direction?


http://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm

has the PVR for weekdays plus length in miles and kms.

The shortest routes look like the 389. 399 or the 507. Longest (in
recent history - i.e. the 1990s) used to be the 107 when it ran from
Brimsdown to Queensbury. There are debates still raging about the
longest ever LT Central area route on other newsgroups!

Longest routes are often cross boundary commercial services but they
aren't TfL routes. 465 or the X26 look like reasonable candidates for
the current crown.

Highest route PVRs are now 42 buses on the 25, 38 and 73.

Total numbers of buses as at June 05 in service per weekday (courtesy of
LOTS) is

M- F 6886
Sun 4128
Sat nights 677 (24 hour / night buses only obviously)

These numbers will have changed a bit given that some RM routes have
been converted and other route changes have occurred.

HTH
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Robert Woolley November 14th 05 09:34 PM

Basic Bus Information
 
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:52:18 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:36:32 +0000, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I'm trying to find some basic bus information, along the lines of "What
is London Buses' longest/shortest bus route?" How many buses are in
London Buses service, that sort of thing. I thought there'd be a page
somewhere on the TfL site but a trawl of it (and Google) hasn't turned
up anything very reliable-looking.

Can anyone here point me in the right direction?


http://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm

has the PVR for weekdays plus length in miles and kms.

The shortest routes look like the 389. 399 or the 507. Longest (in
recent history - i.e. the 1990s) used to be the 107 when it ran from
Brimsdown to Queensbury. There are debates still raging about the
longest ever LT Central area route on other newsgroups!



I'm pretty sure that the 398 is the shortest route and that the 465 is
the longest route.

Rob.
--
rob at robertwoolley dot co dot uk

Chris Read November 14th 05 10:10 PM

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"Robert Woolley" wrote:

I'm pretty sure that the 398 is the shortest route and that the 465 is
the longest route.


The 346 must be among the shortest.

Chris



Ian Jelf November 16th 05 12:38 PM

Basic Bus Information
 
In message , Paul Corfield
writes
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:36:32 +0000, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I'm trying to find some basic bus information, along the lines of "What
is London Buses' longest/shortest bus route?" How many buses are in
London Buses service, that sort of thing. I thought there'd be a page
somewhere on the TfL site but a trawl of it (and Google) hasn't turned
up anything very reliable-looking.

Can anyone here point me in the right direction?


http://www.londonbusroutes.net/details.htm


Thanks to everyone that replied to this.

The information has turned out to be much harder to come by than I'd
imagines. Somewhere I have a series of information sheets sent to me
by London Transport in response to a letter I sent them in about 1980
full of that sort of stuff. Somehow, I expected there to be a
modern-day equivalent on line somewhere (which appears not to be the
case).

However, the pointers you've all sent me have been very helpful and
thanks again.

Longest routes are often cross boundary commercial services but they
aren't TfL routes. 465 or the X26 look like reasonable candidates for
the current crown.

I've also had suggested (off group) the N20 from Oxford Circus to Harold
Hill as a contender.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Thomas Covenant November 16th 05 09:42 PM

Basic Bus Information
 
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:38:54 +0000, Ian Jelf
wrote:

I've also had suggested (off group) the N20 from Oxford Circus to Harold
Hill as a contender.


Ian,
that used to be the N25, but the route was withdrawn when the 25 went
bendy last year, being replaced by a 24 hour service on 25, and a new
N86 from Stratford to Harold Hill.

--
Thomas Covenant
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