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M. J. Powell wrote:
In message , steve writes On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:31:14 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote: I never understand this. Should conversations also be banned. I assume the motive is they you get frustrated by only being able to eavesdrop on on half of the conversation - otherwise the 'campaign' would be about load conversations not just phone conversations. The point is that phone users speak more loudly than they would for a normal conversation. Mike Some research suggests that people pay more attention when they only hear one-half of the conversation: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040412.html |
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Andrew Yarnwood wrote:
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm on the train ... buy! ... sell!") Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the web or a newsgroup. One particularly obnoxious person managed to get me to react. Only one so far. This person had been conducting some business for some time (they had some very borderline case for something or other, and definately wouldn't take no for an answer, and it sounded vaguely like there was some kind of fraudulent claim or application going on), and the whole carriage was getting rather tired of it. I'd couldn't even get away from it by listening to some music - the person's voice was that piercing. Anyway, some poor old lady decided to ask the woman politely to stop. The woman completely ignored her, and continued her debating via the phone. She didn't even acknowledge that the old lady was trying to communicate with her. It got to the point where the old lady tapped her on the shoulder, just to get some kind of acknowledgement that she was there - at which point, the woman on the phone accused her of assault. The old lady tried valiantly to argue her corner, but when she wasn't physically in contact with the woman, she was ignored, and when she was, she was accused of assault. So eventually she gave up. The rules of this game appear to be: be as annoying as possible to the woman, but without any physical contact. I can work with that :¬) An ordinary walkman in-ear style earpiece, dangled within 1-2cm of the phone mic seemed to work quite well. Small, easy to maneuver, easy to place accurately. No danger of actual contact. She tried to stonewall me too - but this was to my advantage, not hers, as I'm sure the other person had no idea what she was saying. I was quite content to listen to the song. The challenge is to pick something with a strong riff, some memorable changes, and not something that can be easily filtered out - i.e. not just typical clubbers' noise. For added effect, the other earpiece can be dangled next to the free ear, so she can't clearly hear what the other person is saying either. Five minutes, and she was off the phone. Never said a word to me. The old lady did though, she was most thankful :¬) James Moody -- aka: Major Denis Bloodnok | (¯\ ICQ: 7000473 | \ \ /¯) http://www.vsr.org.uk | \ \___/ / No more can they keep us in | |/ _)| ) Listen, damn it, we will win | ( (|_| ) They see it right, they see it well | \ / But they think this saves us from our hell | |====| |
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![]() "Cheeky" wrote in message ... On 16 Nov 2005 10:50:51 -0800, wrote: There are mobile phone jammers available from electrical retailers, but they cost up to £200. Still, it would be worth the money just to watch the misery on the callers face as they try and figure out why their call keeps cutting out. Alternatively just have a ride on one of Branson's trains. You'll get the same without shelling out £200... That assumes you don't need an Open ticket ;-) Peter |
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Gavin Hamilton wrote:
A friend of mine suggested a small device that transmitted the sound of a low flying aircraft on bluetooth frequencies - it would be exceedingly amusing to watch those with bluetootehed mobile phones diving for cover - in the office :-) One day we'll work out how to make one.......... G I'm pretty sure this isn't possible because: 1. The signal received by the earpiece from the "small device" would have to be stronger than the signal received from the phone 2. The "low flying aircraft" data frames would have to be aligned with genuine data frames 3. Any encryption would have to be mimicked 4. The frequency hopping pattern would need to be known 5. The computer misuse act would need to change The best you could hope for is to provide hostile interference which could jam the signals between phone and headset. Problem with this is that bluetooth uses frequency hopping because it is intended for use in a congested frequency spectrum (the unlicensed band) On the topic of mobile phone jammers... The UK government charges mobile phone companies a lot of money to license the frequencies hence I doubt they are going to legalise any form of unrestricted broadcast over them |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:20:32 +0000, "N.I.B."
wrote: wrote: Evil, good but evil. Now can you come up with a way to deal with screaming brats and larger louts. It's the smaller louts that I can't stand. I must say, I'm impressed by the way that three different people made substantively the same comment so close together ![]() -- James Farrar . @gmail.com |
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![]() "steve" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:31:14 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote: "Jon" wrote in message et declared for all the world to hear... Suggestions? Sit in the quiet carriage. But there isn't room for *all* of us in there..! The whole train should be phone-free. As should buses for that matter. I never understand this. Should conversations also be banned. I assume the motive is they you get frustrated by only being able to eavesdrop on on half of the conversation - otherwise the 'campaign' would be about load conversations not just phone conversations. Have you never taken the time to note the difference in people's behaviour when talking on the phone..? If you are sitting next to someone and talking to them, you naturally keep your voice at the minimum level required for them to hear you. On the phone, people tend to shout. Ivor |
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I have the fortunate ability to stop people on their mobile phones quite
easily! Might have something to do with the fact I am a 6' 10" rugby player who works out in the gym 5 times a week ! They take 1 look at me and usually end their call pretty quickly. Cant think why? -- Aaron |
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Meeeee wrote:
Andrew Yarnwood wrote: I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm on the train ... buy! ... sell!") Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the web or a newsgroup. A far worse menace these days are the idiots who play music on their phones via the loud speaker. It's worse than the walkman/Ipod tinny hissing noise as these people really do think everyone else wants to hear their (normally 'urban') music. I should really get together some MP3s of very loud classical music to counteract it, either that or develop a portable antinoise generator And it is NEVER anything good; it's always noisy and obnoxious and completely and utterly senseless. This is why I avoid public transport during school starting/finishing times or during the holidays. Doesn't always work though unfortunately. Worse still is that crazy frog. Working in the music section in a supermarket means I had that rammed down my neck for weeks on the promotional video, followed by the bus trip to/from work from some low intellects who would play it repeatedly for a good half hour and still find it funny after the 50th time. Jamie |
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Nozomi Warrior 2005 wrote:
I have the fortunate ability to stop people on their mobile phones quite easily! Might have something to do with the fact I am a 6' 10" rugby player who works out in the gym 5 times a week ! They take 1 look at me and usually end their call pretty quickly. Cant think why? -- Aaron |
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sad pathetic individual with a massive chip on his shoulder !!
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