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Andrew Yarnwood November 16th 05 10:49 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.

Comments?
Suggestions?
Does a site or newsgroup already exist for this?



Tim Christian November 16th 05 10:57 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 

Andrew Yarnwood wrote in message
...
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.

Comments?
Suggestions?
Does a site or newsgroup already exist for this?


Carry a cassette/cd player loaded with load pub sound effects - music,
drunken voices, glasses clinking - and play it when they say 'I'm on the
train'?



Fred Smith November 16th 05 10:58 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.

Comments?
Suggestions?


I travel in the quiet zone and if someone is on the phone and they give
out their number I call them back later in the day to remind them of
their error and point out that they were careless in giving out such
information in the quiet zone.

I don't wait to listen to their excuses, four letter words or threats -
but then hang-up. CLI never withheld from my disposable PAYG handset!

NotQuiteCornish November 16th 05 11:09 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")


Carry a small, flask-like vessel of cold salty water, and when the
caller has finished the call, ask to borrow their phone...and place it
in said water.

No more calls on that journey!


[email protected] November 16th 05 11:15 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Evil, good but evil.

Now can you come up with a way to deal with screaming brats and larger
louts.


Paul Scott November 16th 05 11:18 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Evil, good but evil.

Now can you come up with a way to deal with screaming brats and larger
louts.


but not smaller louts??

Paul



PhilD November 16th 05 11:20 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 

wrote:
Evil, good but evil.

Now can you come up with a way to deal with screaming brats and larger
louts.



Or even smaller louts.

:-)



PhilD

--



N.I.B. November 16th 05 11:20 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
wrote:
Evil, good but evil.

Now can you come up with a way to deal with screaming brats and larger
louts.


It's the smaller louts that I can't stand.

N.I.B. November 16th 05 11:25 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.

Comments?
Suggestions?
Does a site or newsgroup already exist for this?



I sometimes while away those moments by trying to work out what they
actually *do*. It's easy enough to spot the self-confident banter of a
recruitment consultant, for example.

But there is also a large section of middle management types who are far
harder to decipher. They speak entirely in code, punctuated by the odd
surname or location - all very discreet, all total bull****.

Perhaps they don't know what they do themselves - 'I manage, therefore I
am.'

MIG November 16th 05 11:53 AM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Carry a small, flask-like vessel of cold salty water, and when the
caller has finished the call, ask to borrow their phone...and place it
in said water.

No more calls on that journey



I had a Nokia 3310 which fell in the toilet (still not quite sure how).
For reasons of hygiene, I washed it very thoroughly, and then took it
apart as much as I could, thinking that the components are mostly
sealed in plastic and/or non-corrosive.

I then laid all the little, thoroughly-washed, bits out to dry for two
days.

Then I put it back together again, and it didn't work.

So the water may not need to be salty.


R.C. Payne November 16th 05 12:17 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
MIG wrote:
Carry a small, flask-like vessel of cold salty water, and when the
caller has finished the call, ask to borrow their phone...and place it
in said water.

No more calls on that journey




I had a Nokia 3310 which fell in the toilet (still not quite sure how).
For reasons of hygiene, I washed it very thoroughly, and then took it
apart as much as I could, thinking that the components are mostly
sealed in plastic and/or non-corrosive.

I then laid all the little, thoroughly-washed, bits out to dry for two
days.

Then I put it back together again, and it didn't work.

So the water may not need to be salty.


I had a similar experience with a previous phone (had been at the pub,
and I received a text message whilst relieving myself). After a broadly
similar proceedure, the phone worked again with no signs of ill-effects.

Robin


GazK November 16th 05 12:25 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Not sure about "larger louts" (seems a bit fattist to me) but screaming
brats, or "children" as we call them, have as much right to be on a
train as you do (assuming they are not in the quiet carriage). With the
best will in the world, children sometimes make loud unexpected noises
and even responsible parents cannot - and indeed should not - expect
them to remain mute on a long train journey.


wrote:
Evil, good but evil.

Now can you come up with a way to deal with screaming brats and larger
louts.



NotQuiteCornish November 16th 05 12:28 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 

MIG wrote:
Carry a small, flask-like vessel of cold salty water, and when the
caller has finished the call, ask to borrow their phone...and place it
in said water.

No more calls on that journey



I had a Nokia 3310 which fell in the toilet (still not quite sure how).
For reasons of hygiene, I washed it very thoroughly, and then took it
apart as much as I could, thinking that the components are mostly
sealed in plastic and/or non-corrosive.

I then laid all the little, thoroughly-washed, bits out to dry for two
days.

Then I put it back together again, and it didn't work.

So the water may not need to be salty.



A friend of mine had one of the 'Matrix'-style Nokia phones a few years
ago, and in a sudden shower, a raindrop landed right in the top speaker
hole! His phone didnt work...

I suggested salty water, as it would also short-circuit the phone, so
even drying it out wouldn't have an effect!


Graeme Wall November 16th 05 12:36 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
In message
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:

I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.


I recall someone on this group[1] commenting that he overheard one of his
firm's competitors talking about a major contract in such detail on the train
that his company were able to trump the loudmouth's tender.

[1] Where are you Ian Batten?

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

Ian Jelf November 16th 05 12:42 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
In message . com, GazK
writes
Not sure about "larger louts" (seems a bit fattist to me) but screaming
brats, or "children" as we call them, have as much right to be on a
train as you do (assuming they are not in the quiet carriage).

I would disagree. Quiet and well behaved children (just like quiet and
well-behaved adults) have as much right as anyone to be there. Once
they start being unreasonably noisy then they become one of those
factors that put some people off public transport.

With the
best will in the world, children sometimes make loud unexpected noises
and even responsible parents cannot - and indeed should not - expect
them to remain mute on a long train journey.

I wouldn't expect them to remain mute either and I suspect no-one but
the grumpiest Grown Up would. But excessive noise (and the running
around) makes an otherwise pleasant journey intolerable.
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

ANDREW ROBERT BREEN November 16th 05 01:21 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
In article ,
Ian Jelf wrote:
I wouldn't expect them to remain mute either and I suspect no-one but
the grumpiest Grown Up would. But excessive noise (and the running
around) makes an otherwise pleasant journey intolerable.


OK. You've provided a convincing reason for controlling the bashers.
Now, what about children on trains?

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)

[email protected] November 16th 05 01:49 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Absolutely. No one in their right minds would complain about pleasant
well behaved children, but travelling for hours next to a table of
screaming, fighting spoiled brats would certainly spoil most
traveller's day.

I suppose I should go anywhere near complaining about crying children
either. But thats annoying too, especially when accompanied by chav
parents who take no notice, chugging down litres of tramp juice for the
entire journey.


TBirdFrank November 16th 05 02:08 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Back to the subject ...........

"Im on a train" comes the reply to the loud and tedious ring tone.

"So are we" shout the other 70+ occupants of the same air space!

As for screaming kids - my youngest - at the age of two - didn't like
to be kept waiting when there was food about. The Pullman car crew
delivered a porage oats so quick it was probably friction cooked on the
way.

She now prefers GNER over Virgin so she's kept up her standards


M. J. Powell November 16th 05 02:22 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
In message . com, GazK
writes
Not sure about "larger louts" (seems a bit fattist to me) but screaming
brats, or "children" as we call them, have as much right to be on a
train as you do (assuming they are not in the quiet carriage). With the
best will in the world, children sometimes make loud unexpected noises
and even responsible parents cannot - and indeed should not - expect
them to remain mute on a long train journey.


Then why are some children perfectly behaved?

Mike

Rich Mackin November 16th 05 04:24 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
"MIG" wrote in message
ups.com...
Carry a small, flask-like vessel of cold salty water, and when the
caller has finished the call, ask to borrow their phone...and place it
in said water.

No more calls on that journey



I had a Nokia 3310 which fell in the toilet (still not quite sure how).
For reasons of hygiene, I washed it very thoroughly, and then took it
apart as much as I could, thinking that the components are mostly
sealed in plastic and/or non-corrosive.

I then laid all the little, thoroughly-washed, bits out to dry for two
days.

Then I put it back together again, and it didn't work.

So the water may not need to be salty.


Having witnessed a Motorola bobbing up and down inside a pint, may I suggest
that lager-flavoured water can stop a phone from working. :)

--
*** http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ ***
Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin-co-uk)
MSN: richmackin-at-hotmail-dot-com



Brimstone November 16th 05 04:25 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
M. J. Powell wrote:
In message . com,
GazK writes
Not sure about "larger louts" (seems a bit fattist to me) but
screaming brats, or "children" as we call them, have as much right
to be on a train as you do (assuming they are not in the quiet
carriage). With the best will in the world, children sometimes make
loud unexpected noises and even responsible parents cannot - and
indeed should not - expect them to remain mute on a long train
journey.


Then why are some children perfectly behaved?


An interesting question.

I once had the experience of sitting in a large DSS waiting are for an hour
or more. There were several families with their children from several
different ethnic groups. It was the children from only one ethnic group that
ran around disturbing others; the one that engages in football hooliganism
and vandalism.



Peter Masson November 16th 05 04:27 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 

"Brimstone" wrote

I once had the experience of sitting in a large DSS waiting are for an

hour
or more. There were several families with their children from several
different ethnic groups. It was the children from only one ethnic group

that
ran around disturbing others; the one that engages in football hooliganism
and vandalism.

The neighbourhood policeman paid a visit to the pre-school. The children
from the travellers' site were very polite and called him 'sir'. The
children of other police officers kicked him.

Peter



Brimstone November 16th 05 05:14 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Rich Mackin wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message
ups.com...
Carry a small, flask-like vessel of cold salty water, and when the
caller has finished the call, ask to borrow their phone...and place
it in said water.

No more calls on that journey



I had a Nokia 3310 which fell in the toilet (still not quite sure
how). For reasons of hygiene, I washed it very thoroughly, and then
took it apart as much as I could, thinking that the components are
mostly sealed in plastic and/or non-corrosive.

I then laid all the little, thoroughly-washed, bits out to dry for
two days.

Then I put it back together again, and it didn't work.

So the water may not need to be salty.


Having witnessed a Motorola bobbing up and down inside a pint, may I
suggest that lager-flavoured water can stop a phone from working. :)


Hopefully the phone gave the water some flavour.



Ivor Jones November 16th 05 05:22 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 


"GazK" wrote in message
ups.com
Not sure about "larger louts" (seems a bit fattist to me)
but screaming brats, or "children" as we call them, have
as much right to be on a train as you do (assuming they
are not in the quiet carriage). With the best will in the
world, children sometimes make loud unexpected noises and
even responsible parents cannot - and indeed should not -
expect them to remain mute on a long train journey.


I do. If you can't control your offspring don't let them out in public.

Ivor



[email protected] November 16th 05 05:50 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:

I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")




I recall someone on this group[1] commenting that he overheard one of his
firm's competitors talking about a major contract in such detail on the train
that his company were able to trump the loudmouth's tender.


There are mobile phone jammers available from electrical retailers, but
they cost up to £200.

Still, it would be worth the money just to watch the misery on the
callers face as they try and figure out why their call keeps cutting
out.

Try http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/yo50.htm


Niall Wallace November 16th 05 06:06 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Absolutely. No one in their right minds would complain about pleasant
well behaved children, but travelling for hours next to a table of
screaming, fighting spoiled brats would certainly spoil most
traveller's day.

I suppose I should go anywhere near complaining about crying children
either. But thats annoying too, especially when accompanied by chav
parents who take no notice, chugging down litres of tramp juice for the
entire journey.



If thats not Drunk in Charge, then it probably should be

:-p

Niall



Jon November 16th 05 06:21 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
declared for all the world to hear...
Suggestions?


Sit in the quiet carriage.
--
Regards
Jon

Ivor Jones November 16th 05 06:31 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 


"Jon" wrote in message
et
declared for all the world to hear...
Suggestions?


Sit in the quiet carriage.


But there isn't room for *all* of us in there..! The whole train should be
phone-free. As should buses for that matter.

Ivor



Cheeky November 16th 05 06:36 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
On 16 Nov 2005 11:49:16 -0000, Andrew Yarnwood wrote:

I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.

Comments?
Suggestions?
Does a site or newsgroup already exist for this?


Just convert all services to Pendolino operation... Mobiles don't seem
to work well, if at all, on them...

Steve November 16th 05 06:55 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:31:14 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote:



"Jon" wrote in message
et
declared for all the world to hear...
Suggestions?


Sit in the quiet carriage.


But there isn't room for *all* of us in there..! The whole train should be
phone-free. As should buses for that matter.


I never understand this. Should conversations also be banned. I assume the
motive is they you get frustrated by only being able to eavesdrop on on
half of the conversation - otherwise the 'campaign' would be about load
conversations not just phone conversations.



Marc November 16th 05 07:35 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.


It's human nature te get frustrated because you can only hear one side
of the conversation. Yet over it, it's no different from people who talk
loudly.


--
Marc
Visit http://www.iMarc.co.uk/ for contact information..

Rich Mackin November 16th 05 08:40 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
"Jon" wrote in message
et...
declared for all the world to hear...
Suggestions?


Sit in the quiet carriage.


Yeah, that really works... 8-)

--
***
http://www.railwayscene.co.uk/ ***
Rich Mackin (rich-at-richmackin-co-uk)
MSN: richmackin-at-hotmail-dot-com



M. J. Powell November 16th 05 08:46 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
In message ,
Brimstone writes
M. J. Powell wrote:
In message . com,
GazK writes
Not sure about "larger louts" (seems a bit fattist to me) but
screaming brats, or "children" as we call them, have as much right
to be on a train as you do (assuming they are not in the quiet
carriage). With the best will in the world, children sometimes make
loud unexpected noises and even responsible parents cannot - and
indeed should not - expect them to remain mute on a long train
journey.


Then why are some children perfectly behaved?


An interesting question.

I once had the experience of sitting in a large DSS waiting are for an hour
or more. There were several families with their children from several
different ethnic groups. It was the children from only one ethnic group that
ran around disturbing others; the one that engages in football hooliganism
and vandalism.


I'm not surprised. The low luminance families can teach the high
luminance families a lot about family values.

Mike

M. J. Powell November 16th 05 08:48 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
In message ,
steve writes
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:31:14 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote:



"Jon" wrote in message
et
declared for all the world to hear...
Suggestions?

Sit in the quiet carriage.


But there isn't room for *all* of us in there..! The whole train should be
phone-free. As should buses for that matter.


I never understand this. Should conversations also be banned. I assume the
motive is they you get frustrated by only being able to eavesdrop on on
half of the conversation - otherwise the 'campaign' would be about load
conversations not just phone conversations.


The point is that phone users speak more loudly than they would for a
normal conversation.

Mike

Meeeee November 16th 05 09:11 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:
I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")

Record the calls or make some note, especially if there's anything
that sounds confidential, and publish transcripts or summaries on the
web or a newsgroup.



A far worse menace these days are the idiots who play music on their
phones via the loud speaker. It's worse than the walkman/Ipod tinny
hissing noise as these people really do think everyone else wants to
hear their (normally 'urban') music.

I should really get together some MP3s of very loud classical music to
counteract it, either that or develop a portable antinoise generator


David Howdon November 16th 05 09:30 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote:

In message
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:


I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")



I recall someone on this group[1] commenting that he overheard one of his
firm's competitors talking about a major contract in such detail on the train
that his company were able to trump the loudmouth's tender.



There are mobile phone jammers available from electrical retailers, but
they cost up to £200.

Still, it would be worth the money just to watch the misery on the
callers face as they try and figure out why their call keeps cutting
out.

Try
http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/yo50.htm

They are also illegal in the UK. For instance (from the same site)
"Note for UK customers: Cell phone jamming equipment is illegal to use
in the UK as it violates sections 1 & 13 of the 1949 telegraphy act, we
are therefore unable to supply cell phone jammers to any UK customer."

--
To contact me take a davidhowdon and add a @yahoo.co.uk to the end.

Gavin Hamilton November 16th 05 09:35 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
On 16 Nov 2005 10:50:51 -0800, wrote:


Graeme Wall wrote:
In message
Andrew Yarnwood wrote:

I have a proposal for dealing with (punishing) people who make loud
business phone calls on trains (or any other public transport). ("I'm
on the train ... buy! ... sell!")




I recall someone on this group[1] commenting that he overheard one of his
firm's competitors talking about a major contract in such detail on the train
that his company were able to trump the loudmouth's tender.


There are mobile phone jammers available from electrical retailers, but
they cost up to £200.

Still, it would be worth the money just to watch the misery on the
callers face as they try and figure out why their call keeps cutting
out.

Try
http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/yo50.htm

A friend of mine suggested a small device that transmitted the sound
of a low flying aircraft on bluetooth frequencies - it would be
exceedingly amusing to watch those with bluetootehed mobile phones
diving for cover - in the office :-)

One day we'll work out how to make one..........

G

Martin Underwood November 16th 05 09:37 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
Gavin Hamilton wrote in
:

A friend of mine suggested a small device that transmitted the sound
of a low flying aircraft on bluetooth frequencies - it would be
exceedingly amusing to watch those with bluetootehed mobile phones
diving for cover - in the office :-)


Just make it the sound of a fly buzzing around and watch everyone looking
around to try and find it so they can swat it :-)



Gavin Hamilton November 16th 05 09:39 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:55:48 +0000, steve
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:31:14 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote:



"Jon" wrote in message
et
declared for all the world to hear...
Suggestions?

Sit in the quiet carriage.


But there isn't room for *all* of us in there..! The whole train should be
phone-free. As should buses for that matter.


I never understand this. Should conversations also be banned. I assume the
motive is they you get frustrated by only being able to eavesdrop on on
half of the conversation - otherwise the 'campaign' would be about load
conversations not just phone conversations.


I think it's got something to do with the large percentage of mobile
phone users who shout when of their phones. Having read the
contribution about outbidding a competitor after an overheard mobile
phone call I have to mention office smoking rooms - I've heard about
governments not paying multyi million pound bills, peoples intimate
private details, staff reviews - you name it I've heard it. Sit
quietly in the corner and listen is my motto. If my phone rings
(quietly and not a stupid tune) I leave the room.

G

Cheeky November 16th 05 09:48 PM

Plan for dealing with obnoxious phone calls on trains?
 
On 16 Nov 2005 10:50:51 -0800, wrote:


There are mobile phone jammers available from electrical retailers, but
they cost up to £200.

Still, it would be worth the money just to watch the misery on the
callers face as they try and figure out why their call keeps cutting
out.


Alternatively just have a ride on one of Branson's trains. You'll get
the same without shelling out £200...


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