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www.waspies.net December 31st 05 08:13 PM

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Dom1234 wrote:
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/


Here's the truth!!!!!!


"Jonathan Morris" wrote in message
oups.com...

elyob wrote:

Do they really believe that striking 31st December is going to get the
respect of the general public?


Of course not, but after many people started saying "It's Christmas, so
where's the tube strike", I guess they had no choice but to move it to
New Year.

I think Mr Crow needs to realise that once a terrorist has chosen to
let off a bomb on a train (or whatever) there's pretty much nothing
anyone is going to do about it, whether you're in a ticket office or
manning barriers. We all know the solution is to stop anyone wanting to
do it, and that's rather beyond the remit of ANY tube workers.

And, as I see it, moving people to the 'front line' does seem like a
good move, if only to give people the perception that they're safer.
Maybe it's the fear that more staff would be at risk from terrorists?

In any case, it's always the same thing. The RMT strike, get what they
want, agree to it, then change their mind in 6-12 months. And as long
as you make statements that mention 'safety' in every other sentence,
you're supposed to be taken seriously. After all, anyone that doesn't
support the strike is obviously asking for another atrocity on the
railway..

Jonathan




DOM1234
I take it you are an RMT member, you must have voted for the deal, it
was presented as a triumph by Bob Crow, Bobby Law et al, it makes very
poor tactical sense to strike on NYE, it alients the public, and makes
all staff look like the biggest bunch of ****s, lets get it on record,
Drivers are not on strike, have not voted on strike action, most will go
into work, (I'm on A/L at the moment), I for one do not support any
strike where I have not had a vote, station staff do not support drivers
strikes so why should I support theirs.

This strike was bound to happen, after the deal was accepted I met a
senior ASLEF official, who said that the RMT hadn't realised the full
implications of the deal, this strike I believe is the result of the
poor negotiations by the RMT, for this wonderful deal done on behalf of
all its members.


Steve Fitzgerald January 1st 06 03:45 AM

Tube strike 31st Dec
 
In message , www.waspies.net
writes

DOM1234
I take it you are an RMT member, you must have voted for the deal, it
was presented as a triumph by Bob Crow, Bobby Law et al, it makes very
poor tactical sense to strike on NYE, it alients the public, and makes
all staff look like the biggest bunch of ****s, lets get it on record,
Drivers are not on strike, have not voted on strike action, most will
go into work, (I'm on A/L at the moment), I for one do not support any
strike where I have not had a vote, station staff do not support
drivers strikes so why should I support theirs.

This strike was bound to happen, after the deal was accepted I met a
senior ASLEF official, who said that the RMT hadn't realised the full
implications of the deal, this strike I believe is the result of the
poor negotiations by the RMT, for this wonderful deal done on behalf of
all its members.


I agree totally with all that.

And for what it's worth, I went in and did a full duty tonight until
0400. I notice that most of the stations were open too so that's not had
much effect.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

Paul Terry January 1st 06 10:23 AM

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In message , Steve Fitzgerald
] writes

And for what it's worth, I went in and did a full duty tonight until
0400. I notice that most of the stations were open too so that's not
had much effect.


Well done - and sincere thanks to you and all the many other workers who
gave up their New Year's Eve to keep London running so successfully.

--
Paul Terry

Neillw001 January 1st 06 10:28 AM

Tube strike 31st Dec
 
As this strike has had so little effect on the operation of LU, then
the policy of moving staff from ticket offices is certainly the right
one. Perhaps, with this evidence of a failure of a strike action to
bring the network to a halt, LU should take it further. Redeploy staff
from ticket offices as planned, followed by issuing redundancy notices
to any others left over. It is quite clear that LU ticket offices are
overstaffed as the union have helpfully pointed out by failing to bring
the system to a standstill. The savings can be passed onto the
travelling public by way of fare reductions.

Neill


Tom Anderson January 1st 06 01:10 PM

Tube strike 31st Dec
 
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:

And for what it's worth, I went in and did a full duty tonight until
0400. I notice that most of the stations were open too so that's not had
much effect.


Thankyou, Steve - we very much appreciated that! All the best for the new
year.

tom

--
Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps we will learn the
truth. -- Friedrich Kekule

Adrian January 1st 06 07:05 PM

Tube strike 31st Dec
 
www.waspies.net ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

Bobby Law


A parody of himself. The man is either a comedy genius or extremely
scary...

[email protected] January 1st 06 09:15 PM

Tube strike 31st Dec
 

Steve Dulieu wrote:

"Mike Bristow" wrote in message
...
In article ,
d wrote:
I think that was his point - it clearly isn't about safety, as ASLEF are
staying put. :)


Aren't ASLEF a driver-only union?


Err, nope, some managers are also in ASLEF...


Aslef?
Aren't you the ones who had a strike for that driver who couldn't
restrain himself from going through red signals? Arnos Grove I think it
was.
Did he get his job back?


d January 3rd 06 12:43 PM

Tube strike 31st Dec
 
"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
...
In message , www.waspies.net
writes

DOM1234
I take it you are an RMT member, you must have voted for the deal, it was
presented as a triumph by Bob Crow, Bobby Law et al, it makes very poor
tactical sense to strike on NYE, it alients the public, and makes all
staff look like the biggest bunch of ****s, lets get it on record, Drivers
are not on strike, have not voted on strike action, most will go into
work, (I'm on A/L at the moment), I for one do not support any strike
where I have not had a vote, station staff do not support drivers strikes
so why should I support theirs.

This strike was bound to happen, after the deal was accepted I met a
senior ASLEF official, who said that the RMT hadn't realised the full
implications of the deal, this strike I believe is the result of the poor
negotiations by the RMT, for this wonderful deal done on behalf of all its
members.


I agree totally with all that.

And for what it's worth, I went in and did a full duty tonight until 0400.
I notice that most of the stations were open too so that's not had much
effect.


You're one of the many, less vocal LUL workers who actually do their job
correctly :) Again, thanks for caring about the public!

--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)




d January 3rd 06 12:44 PM

Tube strike 31st Dec
 
"Neillw001" wrote in message
oups.com...
As this strike has had so little effect on the operation of LU, then
the policy of moving staff from ticket offices is certainly the right
one. Perhaps, with this evidence of a failure of a strike action to
bring the network to a halt, LU should take it further. Redeploy staff
from ticket offices as planned, followed by issuing redundancy notices
to any others left over. It is quite clear that LU ticket offices are
overstaffed as the union have helpfully pointed out by failing to bring
the system to a standstill. The savings can be passed onto the
travelling public by way of fare reductions.

Neill


It's comedy - the RMT strike didn't even take down the underground. That
has to be, as you said, a massive indicator that they are indeed bloated
somewhat in the ticket offices.




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