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Dom1234 December 30th 05 08:05 PM

The tube strike is right!
 


Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.



Here's the truth!



http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/





Brimstone December 30th 05 08:19 PM

The tube strike is right!
 


Dom1234 wrote:
Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/


Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.



Dom1234 December 30th 05 08:51 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery.

"Brimstone" wrote in message
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Dom1234 wrote:
Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/


Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.




Brimstone December 30th 05 09:13 PM

The tube strike is right!
 


Dom1234 wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:
Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/


Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.

Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a
brewery.


Did I specify who the troublemakers are?

(BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.)



Dom1234 December 30th 05 09:18 PM

The tube strike is right!
 

"Brimstone" wrote in message
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Dom1234 wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
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Dom1234 wrote:
Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/

Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.

Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a
brewery.


Did I specify who the troublemakers are?

(BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.)

OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are?



David Bradley December 30th 05 09:36 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote:


"Brimstone" wrote in message
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Dom1234 wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:
Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/

Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.
Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a
brewery.


Did I specify who the troublemakers are?

(BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.)

OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are?


Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out there
that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found.

Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why on
31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later?

Now, who is being bloodly minded?

David Bradley

Dom1234 December 30th 05 10:06 PM

The tube strike is right!
 

"David Bradley" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:


"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:
Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/

Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.
Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a
brewery.

Did I specify who the troublemakers are?

(BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.)

OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are?


Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out
there
that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found.

Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why
on
31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later?

Now, who is being bloodly minded?

David Bradley


1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE
2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA
pay.
3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra
4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage)
5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs
6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal?



www.waspies.net December 31st 05 09:02 AM

The tube strike is right!
 
The RMT voted on it, accepted it, and their staff are now suffering from
their headlong dash towards accepting it, they didn't explain how the 35
hour week would be implemented and are now reaping the results.

Sorry to anyone who is affected.

(Top Posted to annoy Brimstone)


Dom1234 wrote:
"David Bradley" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:


"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:

Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/

Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.

Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a
brewery.

Did I specify who the troublemakers are?

(BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.)


OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are?


Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out
there
that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found.

Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why
on
31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later?

Now, who is being bloodly minded?

David Bradley



1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE
2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA
pay.
3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra
4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage)
5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs
6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal?



Dom1234 December 31st 05 10:44 AM

The tube strike is right!
 

"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...
The RMT voted on it, accepted it, and their staff are now suffering from
their headlong dash towards accepting it, they didn't explain how the 35
hour week would be implemented and are now reaping the results.

Sorry to anyone who is affected.

(Top Posted to annoy Brimstone)


Dom1234 wrote:
"David Bradley" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:


"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:

Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/

Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.

Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a
brewery.

Did I specify who the troublemakers are?

(BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.)


OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are?


Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out
there
that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found.

Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why
on
31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later?

Now, who is being bloodly minded?

David Bradley



1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE
2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO
EXTRA pay.
3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra
4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage)
5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs
6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal?


What "www.waspies.net" has said is partly true but this highlights what a
load of ****E the LU management are. They promised no staff reductions, 200
ticket jobs lossed and full consultation on rosters.

Now they want 500 job losses and imposed rosters. The management have
reneged on the original deal. They are trying to shaft the best union on the
railways.



Nick Cooper December 31st 05 11:24 AM

The tube strike is right!
 
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:05:29 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:

Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!

http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/


Which obviously fails to address exactly why Bob Crow and his puppets
chose to strike on the one day that is guaranteed to alienate the
general public against them. The inescapable conclusion is that Bob &
Co. genuinely believed that LUL would cave in in the face of such a
threat; in other words, they have cynically used the enjoyment of
ordinary Londoners to try to force through something so unreasonable
that they know that a threat to strike on any other day of the year
would not work.

It is notable, of course, that while the RMT claims 4,000 members
amongst LU station staff, only 39% of them participated in the strike
ballot, with 1,327 - i.e. 33% of the total number of members - voting
in favour of it.

Of course, we are given to ask exactly who "zoneonelondon.co.uk" are.
Despite first-glance appearances, this is not a general newsite, and
seems to exist only to regurgitate RMT press releases and other union
activist platitudes. It's no surprise that "external links" are
restricted to the RMT, teh Socialist Workers Party, and - presumably
as a half-hearted attempt to appear balance - the Mayor's Office.

The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps
understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly
available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is
currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three
years.
--
Nick Cooper

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The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV:
http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/

Adrian December 31st 05 11:39 AM

The tube strike is right!
 
Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

this highlights what a load of ****E the LU management are.


If they're that bad, why work for them?
Why not resign and get a job elsewhere?

Steve December 31st 05 12:33 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:24:42 +0000, Nick Cooper wrote:

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:05:29 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:

Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's
the truth!

http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/



Of course, we are given to ask exactly who "zoneonelondon.co.uk" are.


Domain name:
zoneonelondon.co.uk

Registrant:
David Knight

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409

"Dave Knight, tube worker"

http://www.globenet.free-online.co.u...oct700repa.htm

"Dave Knight, the Chairman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament"

HNY December 31st 05 12:37 PM

The tube strike is right!
 

"Dom1234" Use a hotmail or yahoo account for posting to usenet wrote in
message ...

"www.waspies.net" wrote in message
...
The RMT voted on it, accepted it, and their staff are now suffering from
their headlong dash towards accepting it, they didn't explain how the 35
hour week would be implemented and are now reaping the results.

Sorry to anyone who is affected.

(Top Posted to annoy Brimstone)


Dom1234 wrote:
"David Bradley" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:


"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:

"Brimstone" wrote in message
...


Dom1234 wrote:

Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike.
Here's the truth!
http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/

Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out.

Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a
brewery.

Did I specify who the troublemakers are?

(BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.)


OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are?


Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out
there
that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found.

Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but
why on
31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days
later?

Now, who is being bloodly minded?

David Bradley


1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE
2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO
EXTRA pay.
3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra
4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage)
5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs
6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal?


What "www.waspies.net" has said is partly true but this highlights what a
load of ****E the LU management are. They promised no staff reductions,
200 ticket jobs lossed and full consultation on rosters.

Now they want 500 job losses and imposed rosters. The management have
reneged on the original deal. They are trying to shaft the best union on
the railways.


RMT "the best union on the railways"??? I'm a frayed knot.
I think you'll find that the title of Best union on railways belongs to
ASLEF.........



Trust No One® December 31st 05 12:45 PM

The tube strike is right!
 


Nick Cooper wrote:

The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps
understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly
available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is
currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three
years.


Hmmm... A search on "David Knight RMT tube" on Google brings up a number of
relevant hits. The first is an article written by "David Knight - tube
worker" for Socialist Worker.

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409

The second is a post on a comments section on the BBC website in support of
Aslef & the RMT over the previous Northern line closures due to "safety
fears". In his contribution he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and Rep
(stations) on the tube"

I'm sure his website will be completely impartial :)


--
Peter X-Files Fan
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auto-binned as spam




Adrian December 31st 05 01:15 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
steve ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

"Dave Knight, tube worker"


"Dave Knight, the Chairman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament"


(Elsewhere)
he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and Rep (stations) on the tube"



He's also "Global Network UN representative" (Whatever the hell that may
mean)

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=7434

Makes you wonder where he finds the time from to work on the tube, doesn't
it?

Nick Cooper December 31st 05 01:16 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:33:18 +0000, steve
wrote:

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:24:42 +0000, Nick Cooper wrote:

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:05:29 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:

Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's
the truth!

http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/



Of course, we are given to ask exactly who "zoneonelondon.co.uk" are.


Domain name:
zoneonelondon.co.uk

Registrant:
David Knight

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409

"Dave Knight, tube worker"


Presumably the same person.

http://www.globenet.free-online.co.u...oct700repa.htm

"Dave Knight, the Chairman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament"


Can probably give that one the benefit of the doubt. The Google
search I did only up a Dave Knight involved with UNISON, as well.
--
Nick Cooper

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The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV:
http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/

Nick Cooper December 31st 05 01:18 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:45:39 -0000, "Trust No One®"
wrote:

Nick Cooper wrote:

The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps
understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly
available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is
currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three
years.


Hmmm... A search on "David Knight RMT tube" on Google brings up a number of
relevant hits. The first is an article written by "David Knight - tube
worker" for Socialist Worker.

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409

The second is a post on a comments section on the BBC website in support of
Aslef & the RMT over the previous Northern line closures due to "safety
fears". In his contribution he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and Rep
(stations) on the tube"

I'm sure his website will be completely impartial :)


The very fact that Mr Knight doesn't identify himself on the site, nor
his inherent impartiality, speaks volumes.
--
Nick Cooper

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The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV:
http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/

[email protected] December 31st 05 02:25 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Dom1234 wrote:
1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE
2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA
pay.
3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra
4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage)
5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs
6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal?


Your (6) might seem superficially convincing, if only you
hadn't already explained that the staff get a 35hr week
(partly) as a result of working NYE for no extra. Also,
at no time in 1-5 did you explain that the deal involved
no job losses.

#Paul

Dom1234 December 31st 05 02:32 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's reputation -
or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much of what has been
posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun!



Happy Revolutionary New Year


"Nick Cooper" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:45:39 -0000, "Trust No One®"
wrote:

Nick Cooper wrote:

The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps
understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly
available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is
currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three
years.


Hmmm... A search on "David Knight RMT tube" on Google brings up a number
of
relevant hits. The first is an article written by "David Knight - tube
worker" for Socialist Worker.

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409

The second is a post on a comments section on the BBC website in support
of
Aslef & the RMT over the previous Northern line closures due to "safety
fears". In his contribution he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and
Rep
(stations) on the tube"

I'm sure his website will be completely impartial :)


The very fact that Mr Knight doesn't identify himself on the site, nor
his inherent impartiality, speaks volumes.
--
Nick Cooper

[Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!]

The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV:
http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/




Adrian December 31st 05 02:44 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's
reputation - or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much
of what has been posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun!


So, Dave, why don't you correct us?

While you're about it, please feel free to explain why you don't just
resign and get a different job elsewhere if LU are so **** to work for.

Dom1234 December 31st 05 02:44 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Correction regarding the ballot:
Over 50% of ballot papers returned not a third. The strike will succeed and
the RMT will be proved right

Regarding NYE working:
Yes the tube workers have already fulfilled part of the agreement by working
last NYE for no extra but they have not yet started working 35 hours. This
past year TW have worked a 37.5 hour week. Now the company wants more than
agreed. NO JOB LOSSES WAS PROMISED BY MANAGEMENT.

Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 07834336987


wrote in message
...
Dom1234 wrote:
1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE
2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO
EXTRA
pay.
3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra
4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage)
5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs
6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal?


Your (6) might seem superficially convincing, if only you
hadn't already explained that the staff get a 35hr week
(partly) as a result of working NYE for no extra. Also,
at no time in 1-5 did you explain that the deal involved
no job losses.

#Paul




Adrian December 31st 05 02:47 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 078xxxxxxxx


How about you post YOUR real name and real mobile phone number?


Dom1234 December 31st 05 02:52 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
My name is ***************** and my mobile is ************** and my land
line is ************** and my address *******************
***************************************





"Adrian" wrote in message
. 244.170...
Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 078xxxxxxxx


How about you post YOUR real name and real mobile phone number?




Adrian December 31st 05 02:57 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 078xxxxxxxx


How about you post YOUR real name and real mobile phone number?


My name is ***************** and my mobile is ************** and my land
line is ************** and my address *******************
***************************************


As I thought. A mouthy coward.

Nick Cooper December 31st 05 03:38 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:32:59 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote:

Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's reputation -
or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much of what has been
posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun!


Such as? Are you denying that the zoneonelondon.co.uk domain is
registered to someone by the name of David Knight, or that that name
does in fact appear on the current publicly-available pages on the
site? Are you suggesting g that - by an amazing quirk of fate - this
is not the same David Knight who is apparently intimately connected
with the RMT?

Where you think facts are wrong, it would be better for you to
identify them - and justify your objections - rather than simply
hoping that a catch-all blanket suggestion will somehow add weight to
your morally-barren arguments.
--
Nick Cooper

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The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV:
http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/

Boltar January 1st 06 09:28 AM

The tube strike is right!
 
Happy Revolutionary New Year

What revolution would this be? Where overpaid dickheads only
have to work 35 hours a week? Live must be sooooo hard for
you all. If you lot were actually employable anywhere else
(and most people know you're not , which is why you never
leave despite constantly moaning about your conditions)
you'd realise what a cushy number you were on with 37.5
hours which most of us can only dream of.

Incidentaly , your actions as you know will have seriously ****ed
off a lot of the travelling public , so don't be surprised if even
more of your members get assaulted from now on. Congratulations.

B2003


Chris! January 1st 06 07:39 PM

The tube strike is right!
 

Dom1234 wrote:
1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE
2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA
pay.
3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra
4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage)
5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs
6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal?


I'm not too familiar about all this. The press are saying that the RMT
are striking over safety but you are saying the strike is over a fear
of job losses?

I think well done to the tube for bringing in Oyster cards so the
ticket offices can be outsourced to India where people want to work...
If only platform staff could be outsourced


Adrian January 1st 06 08:31 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Nick Cooper ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's
reputation - or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much
of what has been posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun!


Such as? Are you denying that the zoneonelondon.co.uk domain is
registered to someone by the name of David Knight, or that that name
does in fact appear on the current publicly-available pages on the
site? Are you suggesting g that - by an amazing quirk of fate - this
is not the same David Knight who is apparently intimately connected
with the RMT?


I s'pose it's possible he is a different David Knight to the CND one - who
isn't, according to CND's website, their current chair anyway.

[email protected] January 1st 06 09:02 PM

The tube strike is right!
 
Everyone's job can be outsourced. Yours, mine, everyone's. But, the
long term goal must be to automate along the lines of New York. It
appears to be coming full-circle. I remember when I was a kid there
were many stations unmanned with one person responsible for a number of
them.


text.news.ntlworld.com January 2nd 06 12:20 AM

The tube strike is right!
 
wrote in message
ups.com...
Everyone's job can be outsourced. Yours, mine, everyone's. But, the
long term goal must be to automate along the lines of New York. It
appears to be coming full-circle. I remember when I was a kid there
were many stations unmanned with one person responsible for a number of
them.


I feel a certain amount of 'safety' at a Tube station, knowing it is staffed
and monitored, particularly at night. Not about terrorism or any of that
guff, but about day-to-day unpleasant thuggery and so on.



[email protected] January 2nd 06 12:54 AM

The tube strike is right!
 

text.news.ntlworld.com wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Everyone's job can be outsourced. Yours, mine, everyone's. But, the
long term goal must be to automate along the lines of New York. It
appears to be coming full-circle. I remember when I was a kid there
were many stations unmanned with one person responsible for a number of
them.


I feel a certain amount of 'safety' at a Tube station, knowing it is staffed
and monitored, particularly at night. Not about terrorism or any of that
guff, but about day-to-day unpleasant thuggery and so on.


I'm in two minds about that. I don't see what most station staff do
now, or can do. If you've got kids spraying graffiti they can ask them
to stop and call the police but not much else. They can't actually
touch them. Same with thuggs, what supervisor is going to intervene? At
my local station kids ride up and down on their cycles, skateboards on
the platform and the supervisors look the other way and watch tv
instead. Not cctv but tv. People jump over the barriers, run across
tracks. I've even see people **** against the side of a train as it was
coming into the station!! What if it's one of those little supervisors,
male or female, that look like they need more protection than you do?
All they'll do is watch from the safety of their office. No, much
cheaper just to get a little office with cctv for multiple stations and
if they see anything wrong, call the police.

But, if it's rape or sexual assault i can see how they might have to do
something. Bit difficult if they're miles away in a control room!


Dave Hillam January 2nd 06 07:35 AM

The tube strike is right!
 
Barry Salter wrote in uk.transport.london on Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:03:35
+0000 :

I think the TSSA might disagree too...But then they're the only one of
the three not to have had a *National* walkout since the late 40s or
so... ;)


1926 General Strike, actually (though there have been RCA/TSSA ballots
in favour of industrial action since then).

Dave



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