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The tube strike is right!
Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ |
The tube strike is right!
Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. |
The tube strike is right!
Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery.
"Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. |
The tube strike is right!
Dom1234 wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery. Did I specify who the troublemakers are? (BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.) |
The tube strike is right!
"Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery. Did I specify who the troublemakers are? (BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.) OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are? |
The tube strike is right!
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery. Did I specify who the troublemakers are? (BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.) OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are? Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out there that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found. Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why on 31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later? Now, who is being bloodly minded? David Bradley |
The tube strike is right!
"David Bradley" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery. Did I specify who the troublemakers are? (BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.) OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are? Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out there that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found. Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why on 31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later? Now, who is being bloodly minded? David Bradley 1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE 2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA pay. 3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra 4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage) 5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs 6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal? |
The tube strike is right!
The RMT voted on it, accepted it, and their staff are now suffering from
their headlong dash towards accepting it, they didn't explain how the 35 hour week would be implemented and are now reaping the results. Sorry to anyone who is affected. (Top Posted to annoy Brimstone) Dom1234 wrote: "David Bradley" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery. Did I specify who the troublemakers are? (BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.) OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are? Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out there that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found. Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why on 31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later? Now, who is being bloodly minded? David Bradley 1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE 2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA pay. 3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra 4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage) 5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs 6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal? |
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"www.waspies.net" wrote in message ... The RMT voted on it, accepted it, and their staff are now suffering from their headlong dash towards accepting it, they didn't explain how the 35 hour week would be implemented and are now reaping the results. Sorry to anyone who is affected. (Top Posted to annoy Brimstone) Dom1234 wrote: "David Bradley" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery. Did I specify who the troublemakers are? (BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.) OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are? Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out there that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found. Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why on 31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later? Now, who is being bloodly minded? David Bradley 1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE 2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA pay. 3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra 4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage) 5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs 6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal? What "www.waspies.net" has said is partly true but this highlights what a load of ****E the LU management are. They promised no staff reductions, 200 ticket jobs lossed and full consultation on rosters. Now they want 500 job losses and imposed rosters. The management have reneged on the original deal. They are trying to shaft the best union on the railways. |
The tube strike is right!
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:05:29 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Which obviously fails to address exactly why Bob Crow and his puppets chose to strike on the one day that is guaranteed to alienate the general public against them. The inescapable conclusion is that Bob & Co. genuinely believed that LUL would cave in in the face of such a threat; in other words, they have cynically used the enjoyment of ordinary Londoners to try to force through something so unreasonable that they know that a threat to strike on any other day of the year would not work. It is notable, of course, that while the RMT claims 4,000 members amongst LU station staff, only 39% of them participated in the strike ballot, with 1,327 - i.e. 33% of the total number of members - voting in favour of it. Of course, we are given to ask exactly who "zoneonelondon.co.uk" are. Despite first-glance appearances, this is not a general newsite, and seems to exist only to regurgitate RMT press releases and other union activist platitudes. It's no surprise that "external links" are restricted to the RMT, teh Socialist Workers Party, and - presumably as a half-hearted attempt to appear balance - the Mayor's Office. The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three years. -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
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Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : this highlights what a load of ****E the LU management are. If they're that bad, why work for them? Why not resign and get a job elsewhere? |
The tube strike is right!
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:24:42 +0000, Nick Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:05:29 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Of course, we are given to ask exactly who "zoneonelondon.co.uk" are. Domain name: zoneonelondon.co.uk Registrant: David Knight http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409 "Dave Knight, tube worker" http://www.globenet.free-online.co.u...oct700repa.htm "Dave Knight, the Chairman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament" |
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"Dom1234" Use a hotmail or yahoo account for posting to usenet wrote in message ... "www.waspies.net" wrote in message ... The RMT voted on it, accepted it, and their staff are now suffering from their headlong dash towards accepting it, they didn't explain how the 35 hour week would be implemented and are now reaping the results. Sorry to anyone who is affected. (Top Posted to annoy Brimstone) Dom1234 wrote: "David Bradley" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:18:05 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: "Brimstone" wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Bloody troublemakers should be kicked out. Ten who would run the tube the bosses couldn't run a **** up in a brewery. Did I specify who the troublemakers are? (BTW - the convention is this NG is for bottom posting. Ta.) OK Cheers - so who do you think the trouble makers are? Let's bring this issue back on track. OK so there is misinformation out there that needs to be knocked on the head and a solution found. Can't find the solution straight away so a strike is called; fine but why on 31st December? Could you not wait until 1st January or a few days later? Now, who is being bloodly minded? David Bradley 1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE 2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA pay. 3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra 4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage) 5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs 6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal? What "www.waspies.net" has said is partly true but this highlights what a load of ****E the LU management are. They promised no staff reductions, 200 ticket jobs lossed and full consultation on rosters. Now they want 500 job losses and imposed rosters. The management have reneged on the original deal. They are trying to shaft the best union on the railways. RMT "the best union on the railways"??? I'm a frayed knot. I think you'll find that the title of Best union on railways belongs to ASLEF......... |
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Nick Cooper wrote: The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three years. Hmmm... A search on "David Knight RMT tube" on Google brings up a number of relevant hits. The first is an article written by "David Knight - tube worker" for Socialist Worker. http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409 The second is a post on a comments section on the BBC website in support of Aslef & the RMT over the previous Northern line closures due to "safety fears". In his contribution he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and Rep (stations) on the tube" I'm sure his website will be completely impartial :) -- Peter X-Files Fan Please Note: Emailed replies cc'd / bcc'd , containing HTML or attachments auto-binned as spam |
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steve ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying : "Dave Knight, tube worker" "Dave Knight, the Chairman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament" (Elsewhere) he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and Rep (stations) on the tube" He's also "Global Network UN representative" (Whatever the hell that may mean) http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=7434 Makes you wonder where he finds the time from to work on the tube, doesn't it? |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:33:18 +0000, steve
wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:24:42 +0000, Nick Cooper wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:05:29 -0000, "Dom1234" wrote: Loads of lies have been told about the New Years Eve tube strike. Here's the truth! http://www.zoneonelondon.co.uk/ Of course, we are given to ask exactly who "zoneonelondon.co.uk" are. Domain name: zoneonelondon.co.uk Registrant: David Knight http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409 "Dave Knight, tube worker" Presumably the same person. http://www.globenet.free-online.co.u...oct700repa.htm "Dave Knight, the Chairman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament" Can probably give that one the benefit of the doubt. The Google search I did only up a Dave Knight involved with UNISON, as well. -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:45:39 -0000, "Trust No One®"
wrote: Nick Cooper wrote: The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three years. Hmmm... A search on "David Knight RMT tube" on Google brings up a number of relevant hits. The first is an article written by "David Knight - tube worker" for Socialist Worker. http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409 The second is a post on a comments section on the BBC website in support of Aslef & the RMT over the previous Northern line closures due to "safety fears". In his contribution he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and Rep (stations) on the tube" I'm sure his website will be completely impartial :) The very fact that Mr Knight doesn't identify himself on the site, nor his inherent impartiality, speaks volumes. -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
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Dom1234 wrote:
1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE 2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA pay. 3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra 4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage) 5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs 6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal? Your (6) might seem superficially convincing, if only you hadn't already explained that the staff get a 35hr week (partly) as a result of working NYE for no extra. Also, at no time in 1-5 did you explain that the deal involved no job losses. #Paul |
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Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's reputation -
or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much of what has been posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun! Happy Revolutionary New Year "Nick Cooper" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:45:39 -0000, "Trust No One®" wrote: Nick Cooper wrote: The domain is registered to one "David Knight," who has - perhaps understandably - chosen not to make any other details publicly available. He's had the domain since 27/01/02, and yet what is currently there is all he seems to have done with it in almost three years. Hmmm... A search on "David Knight RMT tube" on Google brings up a number of relevant hits. The first is an article written by "David Knight - tube worker" for Socialist Worker. http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...rticle_id=6409 The second is a post on a comments section on the BBC website in support of Aslef & the RMT over the previous Northern line closures due to "safety fears". In his contribution he identifies himself as an "RMT Health and Rep (stations) on the tube" I'm sure his website will be completely impartial :) The very fact that Mr Knight doesn't identify himself on the site, nor his inherent impartiality, speaks volumes. -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
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Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's reputation - or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much of what has been posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun! So, Dave, why don't you correct us? While you're about it, please feel free to explain why you don't just resign and get a different job elsewhere if LU are so **** to work for. |
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Correction regarding the ballot:
Over 50% of ballot papers returned not a third. The strike will succeed and the RMT will be proved right Regarding NYE working: Yes the tube workers have already fulfilled part of the agreement by working last NYE for no extra but they have not yet started working 35 hours. This past year TW have worked a 37.5 hour week. Now the company wants more than agreed. NO JOB LOSSES WAS PROMISED BY MANAGEMENT. Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 07834336987 wrote in message ... Dom1234 wrote: 1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE 2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA pay. 3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra 4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage) 5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs 6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal? Your (6) might seem superficially convincing, if only you hadn't already explained that the staff get a 35hr week (partly) as a result of working NYE for no extra. Also, at no time in 1-5 did you explain that the deal involved no job losses. #Paul |
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Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 078xxxxxxxx How about you post YOUR real name and real mobile phone number? |
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My name is ***************** and my mobile is ************** and my land
line is ************** and my address ******************* *************************************** "Adrian" wrote in message . 244.170... Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 078xxxxxxxx How about you post YOUR real name and real mobile phone number? |
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Dom1234 ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : Ask a manager Gerry Duffy 078xxxxxxxx How about you post YOUR real name and real mobile phone number? My name is ***************** and my mobile is ************** and my land line is ************** and my address ******************* *************************************** As I thought. A mouthy coward. |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:32:59 -0000, "Dom1234"
wrote: Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's reputation - or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much of what has been posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun! Such as? Are you denying that the zoneonelondon.co.uk domain is registered to someone by the name of David Knight, or that that name does in fact appear on the current publicly-available pages on the site? Are you suggesting g that - by an amazing quirk of fate - this is not the same David Knight who is apparently intimately connected with the RMT? Where you think facts are wrong, it would be better for you to identify them - and justify your objections - rather than simply hoping that a catch-all blanket suggestion will somehow add weight to your morally-barren arguments. -- Nick Cooper [Carefully remove the detonators from my e-mail address to reply!] The London Underground at War, and in Films & TV: http://www.nickcooper.org.uk/ |
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Happy Revolutionary New Year
What revolution would this be? Where overpaid dickheads only have to work 35 hours a week? Live must be sooooo hard for you all. If you lot were actually employable anywhere else (and most people know you're not , which is why you never leave despite constantly moaning about your conditions) you'd realise what a cushy number you were on with 37.5 hours which most of us can only dream of. Incidentaly , your actions as you know will have seriously ****ed off a lot of the travelling public , so don't be surprised if even more of your members get assaulted from now on. Congratulations. B2003 |
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Dom1234 wrote: 1. The Mayor wants the tube to run all night on NYE 2. Part of the 35 hour week deal was that staff would work NYE for NO EXTRA pay. 3. Last NYE as part the deal they did work for no extra 4. Staff also agreed to 200 ticket office jobs going (natural wastage) 5. Now the Mayor, LU bosses and the Government want to axe 500 jobs 6. Would you still work NYE for NO EXtra if your boss reneged on a deal? I'm not too familiar about all this. The press are saying that the RMT are striking over safety but you are saying the strike is over a fear of job losses? I think well done to the tube for bringing in Oyster cards so the ticket offices can be outsourced to India where people want to work... If only platform staff could be outsourced |
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Nick Cooper ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying : Typical. When you can't win the argument annihilate a person's reputation - or try! You have to get your facts right first. And much of what has been posted is sooooooo wrong. Have Fun! Such as? Are you denying that the zoneonelondon.co.uk domain is registered to someone by the name of David Knight, or that that name does in fact appear on the current publicly-available pages on the site? Are you suggesting g that - by an amazing quirk of fate - this is not the same David Knight who is apparently intimately connected with the RMT? I s'pose it's possible he is a different David Knight to the CND one - who isn't, according to CND's website, their current chair anyway. |
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Everyone's job can be outsourced. Yours, mine, everyone's. But, the
long term goal must be to automate along the lines of New York. It appears to be coming full-circle. I remember when I was a kid there were many stations unmanned with one person responsible for a number of them. |
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wrote in message
ups.com... Everyone's job can be outsourced. Yours, mine, everyone's. But, the long term goal must be to automate along the lines of New York. It appears to be coming full-circle. I remember when I was a kid there were many stations unmanned with one person responsible for a number of them. I feel a certain amount of 'safety' at a Tube station, knowing it is staffed and monitored, particularly at night. Not about terrorism or any of that guff, but about day-to-day unpleasant thuggery and so on. |
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text.news.ntlworld.com wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Everyone's job can be outsourced. Yours, mine, everyone's. But, the long term goal must be to automate along the lines of New York. It appears to be coming full-circle. I remember when I was a kid there were many stations unmanned with one person responsible for a number of them. I feel a certain amount of 'safety' at a Tube station, knowing it is staffed and monitored, particularly at night. Not about terrorism or any of that guff, but about day-to-day unpleasant thuggery and so on. I'm in two minds about that. I don't see what most station staff do now, or can do. If you've got kids spraying graffiti they can ask them to stop and call the police but not much else. They can't actually touch them. Same with thuggs, what supervisor is going to intervene? At my local station kids ride up and down on their cycles, skateboards on the platform and the supervisors look the other way and watch tv instead. Not cctv but tv. People jump over the barriers, run across tracks. I've even see people **** against the side of a train as it was coming into the station!! What if it's one of those little supervisors, male or female, that look like they need more protection than you do? All they'll do is watch from the safety of their office. No, much cheaper just to get a little office with cctv for multiple stations and if they see anything wrong, call the police. But, if it's rape or sexual assault i can see how they might have to do something. Bit difficult if they're miles away in a control room! |
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Barry Salter wrote in uk.transport.london on Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:03:35
+0000 : I think the TSSA might disagree too...But then they're the only one of the three not to have had a *National* walkout since the late 40s or so... ;) 1926 General Strike, actually (though there have been RCA/TSSA ballots in favour of industrial action since then). Dave |
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