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CJG July 21st 03 05:41 PM

Met Line Strike
 
Heard a rumour/story about Met Line train driver who opened the doors on
the wrong side of the train at a platform. Didn't check to see if anyone
actually did get off the wrong side. Closed the doors. Opened the other
side. Then went off. Station assistant complained. Driver has got
sacked. Met Line drivers are going to go on strike to get him
reinstated.
True or not?
--
CJG

Meldrew of Meldreth July 21st 03 10:01 PM

Met Line Strike
 
In article , CJG NEWSGROUP@ne
wsgroup.no.spam.thanks writes
Heard a rumour/story about Met Line train driver who opened the doors on the
wrong side of the train at a platform. Didn't check to see if anyone actually
did get off the wrong side. Closed the doors. Opened the other side. Then went
off. Station assistant complained. Driver has got sacked. Met Line drivers are
going to go on strike to get him reinstated.
True or not?


It was on the BBC London News last night (accompanied by library footage
of a Central Line train.) So it's definitely, err, maybe a rumour.
--
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window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers
make these two activities converge, because now the thing you type on and the
window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99.

Richard J. July 21st 03 10:09 PM

Met Line Strike
 

"CJG" wrote in message
...
Heard a rumour/story about Met Line train driver who opened the doors on
the wrong side of the train at a platform. Didn't check to see if anyone
actually did get off the wrong side. Closed the doors. Opened the other
side. Then went off. Station assistant complained. Driver has got
sacked. Met Line drivers are going to go on strike to get him
reinstated.
True or not?


ASLEF are holding a ballot on a call for strike action according to the
Evening Standard today.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ing%20Standard

To quote from this report:
London Underground said the driver was dismissed because he had made a
number of "gross safety errors" connected with the incident.

Mr Grant [ASLEF district secretary] said: "We do not condone what the driver
did. But he has been treated differently from other drivers who have
committed similar offences but have not been sacked. There has been no offer
for counselling or retraining for a different post.

"Also, a station assistant involved in the Ruislip incident was only given a
verbal warning." [so what did the SA do wrong?]
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Ade V July 21st 03 11:56 PM

Met Line Strike
 
In article ,
says...
There has been no offer
for counselling or retraining for a different post.


And, quite frankly, effing right too.

Counselling, FFS? The mind boggles.

Let's be honest here. Exactly how difficult is it to operate the doors
on a tube train (forget about the aiming it at stations & watching out
for red lights stuff)?

What's to say the same person, retrained in a different role, won't make
similar careless mistakes putting lives at risk?

Imagine if the wrong doors on rush-hour central line train opened. You'd
have people all over the tunnel!

--
"EDS herding cats? EDS couldn't herd a tortoise in a barrel
without ****ing it up!" - Anon

James Farrar July 22nd 03 05:38 AM

Met Line Strike
 
Richard J. wrote:

Mr Grant [ASLEF district secretary] said: "We do not condone what the driver
did. But he has been treated differently from other drivers who have
committed similar offences but have not been sacked.


They're tightening up on this? Good.


Jon July 22nd 03 08:21 AM

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Unlikely that he will be sacked, but there will be a lengthy investigation
whilst he is suspended and the train concerned will be withdrawn from
service to see if there was any chance of a "Door Irregularity". At the end
of it all, he will most likely be back at work under supervision for a
couple of weeks and then it will all be forgotton about

"CJG" wrote in message
...
Heard a rumour/story about Met Line train driver who opened the doors on
the wrong side of the train at a platform. Didn't check to see if anyone
actually did get off the wrong side. Closed the doors. Opened the other
side. Then went off. Station assistant complained. Driver has got
sacked. Met Line drivers are going to go on strike to get him
reinstated.
True or not?
--
CJG




Ed Crowley July 22nd 03 10:53 AM

Met Line Strike
 

"Steve Naïve" wrote in message
...
CJG wrote in
:

Heard a rumour/story about Met Line train driver who opened the doors on
the wrong side of the train at a platform. Didn't check to see if anyone
actually did get off the wrong side. Closed the doors. Opened the other
side. Then went off. Station assistant complained. Driver has got
sacked. Met Line drivers are going to go on strike to get him
reinstated.
True or not?


Don't know if it's true, but isn't there some kind of interlock to prevent
the wrong doors being opened?


Obviously not! You'd think a highly trained and highly paid human would be
able to work out which button to press ...



Pre-38 July 22nd 03 04:20 PM

Met Line Strike
 

"Ed Crowley" wrote in message
...

Don't know if it's true, but isn't there some kind of interlock to

prevent
the wrong doors being opened?



There is, but is been activated as well.

Obviously not! You'd think a highly trained and highly paid human would

be
able to work out which button to press ...


God man, you are really grievin' badly about the drivers pay scale well its
on your blood pressure not mine
DaveR



Ade V July 23rd 03 06:26 AM

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In article ,
says...

"Ade V" wrote in message
news:MPG.19868e155cb41fd0989de1@slave...
In article ,
says...
Let's be honest here. Exactly how difficult is it to operate the doors
on a tube train (forget about the aiming it at stations & watching out
for red lights stuff)?

What's to say the same person, retrained in a different role, won't make
similar careless mistakes putting lives at risk?


Aha! I see we find someone here who is whiter than white - never makes any
human errors at all! he would have us think.


Erm, did I say that? No. What I can say, with some certainity, is I have
*never* endangered other people's lives when I have cocked up. And,
frankly, unless I'm missing something rather obvious, I'd suggest that
opening the wrong set of doors on a tube train is almost impossible for
a normal person to do - otherwise it'd have happened more often than
once.

Also he uses the word "similar careless mistakes" like as though this person
has done it before.


Do we know? A terminally thick person will remain terminally thick, no
matter how much training you give him.

Mr Ade V, u see that V? well shuv it up yer ass man


Ah, enlightened debate I see. Are you the affected ex-driver, perhaps?

--
"EDS herding cats? EDS couldn't herd a tortoise in a barrel
without ****ing it up!" - Anon

Ed Crowley July 23rd 03 08:55 AM

Met Line Strike
 

"dr_i_wankalot" wrote in message
...
Obviously not! You'd think a highly trained and highly paid human would

be
able to work out which button to press ...


So when you are at work in McDonalds have you never given the wrong Burger
to a Customer?


Ignoring the personal slur, staff at McDonalds giving out the wrong burger
doesn't result in someones death (in McDonalds *all* burgers cause death!)




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