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Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the
Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? Thanks -- The presence of this signature shows that this message has been scanned for misplaced apostrophes by the common sense scanner. However, some apostrophes may not be included where required due to boredom, gross negligence, budget cuts, incompetence, stupidity or just plain laziness. http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk |
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![]() Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? Thanks Yesterday (12th) people passing along the platform were invited to take part in trials, there was no problem refusing, and the invites were few and far between- although a 'sniffer ' spaniel sat strategically placed between gaps in BTP, well within sniffing distance. |
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But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide?
"Joe Patrick" wrote in message .uk... Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? Thanks |
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![]() "Steve" wrote in message ... But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide? "Joe Patrick" wrote in message .uk... Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? Thanks Because he has nothing more important in his life to complaining and jump and down about. |
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:14:40 -0000, Steve wrote in
, seen in uk.railway: "Joe Patrick" wrote in message .uk... Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide? I'd object on principle. The principle being that I want to see real security improvements on the railway I work on, rather than highly visible "playing at security" games. [1] The Paddington scanner is an example of Being Seen To Do Something whilst not actually doing anything worth speaking of, and I want nothing to do with that sort of official stupidity. [1] The money being wasted on the Paddington scheme could usefully pay for a number of BT Police officers for Cornwall [2], where ISTR there is only 1 (yes, one) officer allocated full-time. That would be a *real* improvement, IMO. [2] I don't work in Cornwall, so I'm not demanding benefits for "my" part of the railway at the expense of other areas. -- Ross, in Lincoln, being cynical or sarcastic, as ever. Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my name to e-mail me. Demonstration of poor photography at http://ross.photobook.org.uk AD: http://www.merciacharters.co.uk for European charters gripped by me |
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![]() "Ross" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:14:40 -0000, Steve wrote in , seen in uk.railway: "Joe Patrick" wrote in message .uk... Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide? I'd object on principle. The principle being that I want to see real security improvements on the railway I work on, rather than highly visible "playing at security" games. [1] The Paddington scanner is an example of Being Seen To Do Something whilst not actually doing anything worth speaking of, and I want nothing to do with that sort of official stupidity. [1] The money being wasted on the Paddington scheme could usefully pay for a number of BT Police officers for Cornwall [2], where ISTR there is only 1 (yes, one) officer allocated full-time. That would be a *real* improvement, IMO. [2] I don't work in Cornwall, so I'm not demanding benefits for "my" part of the railway at the expense of other areas. -- Ross, in Lincoln, being cynical or sarcastic, as ever. Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my name to e-mail me. Demonstration of poor photography at http://ross.photobook.org.uk AD: http://www.merciacharters.co.uk for European charters gripped by me How typical Ross , typical U.K attitude to pretty much everything......IMHO , from a fellow U.K citizen |
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:13:29 GMT, "Just Wondering" Best place 2 put
it @stinkingfinger.com wrote in , seen in uk.railway: "Ross" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:14:40 -0000, Steve wrote in , seen in uk.railway: "Joe Patrick" wrote in message .uk... Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide? I'd object on principle. The principle being that I want to see real security improvements on the railway I work on, rather than highly visible "playing at security" games. [1] The Paddington scanner is an example of Being Seen To Do Something whilst not actually doing anything worth speaking of, and I want nothing to do with that sort of official stupidity. [1] The money being wasted on the Paddington scheme could usefully pay for a number of BT Police officers for Cornwall [2], where ISTR there is only 1 (yes, one) officer allocated full-time. That would be a *real* improvement, IMO. [2] I don't work in Cornwall, so I'm not demanding benefits for "my" part of the railway at the expense of other areas. [...] How typical Ross , typical U.K attitude to pretty much everything......IMHO , from a fellow U.K citizen So what "typical UK attitude" is that, then? I'm not really sure which bit of my post you're referring to, given that you've quoted all of it rather than simply the bit you're commenting on. -- Ross, in Lincoln, being cynical or sarcastic, as ever. Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my name to e-mail me. Demonstration of poor photography at http://ross.photobook.org.uk AD: http://www.merciacharters.co.uk for European charters gripped by me |
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![]() The Paddington scanner is an example of Being Seen To Do Something whilst not actually doing anything worth speaking of, and I want nothing to do with that sort of official stupidity. Sure is... Access to the same platforms via the bridge area was entirely un-monitored- not even a 'security ' bod showing a presence, but seven BTP +dog standing around near the 'scanner'. The invite to a passing body I witnessed was along the lines of 'would you like to help us', and could have been an invite to sample a glass of wine.. Lets face it , if every entrance had one of those thingies and it became obligatory to pass thru, then if a terrorist really want access , he would catch a train at Acton Mailnline or somewhere- or an underground station....that's without even considering the merits of whether terrorists see this as a potential target. |
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![]() "Ross" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:13:29 GMT, "Just Wondering" Best place 2 put it @stinkingfinger.com wrote in , seen in uk.railway: "Ross" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:14:40 -0000, Steve wrote in , seen in uk.railway: "Joe Patrick" wrote in message .uk... Owing to the fact that Z1-6 travelcard holders will be able to use the Heathrow Express tomorrow, at no extra cost, I have decided to take a trip on this service. I read in the media earlier in the week, that trials of a scanner system, similar to the system used in scairports started this week, with people randomly selected to be scanned. If I happen to be the "unlucky" one, can I request that I am not scanned, or can they deny me the right to travel? But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide? I'd object on principle. The principle being that I want to see real security improvements on the railway I work on, rather than highly visible "playing at security" games. [1] The Paddington scanner is an example of Being Seen To Do Something whilst not actually doing anything worth speaking of, and I want nothing to do with that sort of official stupidity. [1] The money being wasted on the Paddington scheme could usefully pay for a number of BT Police officers for Cornwall [2], where ISTR there is only 1 (yes, one) officer allocated full-time. That would be a *real* improvement, IMO. [2] I don't work in Cornwall, so I'm not demanding benefits for "my" part of the railway at the expense of other areas. [...] How typical Ross , typical U.K attitude to pretty much everything......IMHO , from a fellow U.K citizen So what "typical UK attitude" is that, then? I'm not really sure which bit of my post you're referring to, given that you've quoted all of it rather than simply the bit you're commenting on. -- Ross, in Lincoln, being cynical or sarcastic, as ever. Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my name to e-mail me. Demonstration of poor photography at http://ross.photobook.org.uk AD: http://www.merciacharters.co.uk for European charters gripped by me If they had done nothing , you would complain , know they have done something you complain , how typical. I guesss you'll be the poor fellow the police will be dragging away and scaring members of the public , due to your unwillness to cooperate and help make the station a safer place , Ross the Rebel. Your a real Man., in fact your the sort of man that complains about his tax bills , but would be willing to waster tax payers money by not just doing your bit .Tut Tut. |
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Steve wrote:
But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide? I'm not usually the person to say things about things like this. I'm all for ID cards and the like, but the fact remains that train travel should always remain an "open" thing, not to mention the embarassment of being the one chosen amongst a group of friends. IMO, if this was rolled out full time, surely it would pose a greater safety risk, whereas before, everyone was dispersed around the station and trains, HEx travellers will be more concentrated. -- The presence of this signature shows that this message has been scanned for misplaced apostrophes by the common sense scanner. However, some apostrophes may not be included where required due to boredom, gross negligence, budget cuts, incompetence, stupidity or just plain laziness. http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk |
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