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Not content with the awful beeps and robot-voices on most LU rolling
stock, TfL are now extending this intrusion to buses (already blessed
with "DOORS OPENING", "DOORS CLOSING" messages ad infinitum on some
routes).

Any chance if a 'quiet' deck; and when all vehicles are supposed to be
so-fitted, will buses be cut if the equipment fails, as per wheelchair
ramps?

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"Richard J." wrote in message
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This is excellent news.

Agreed. I for one will find it very helpful not having to ask a surly
driver to tell me when we reach a certain stop, only to have him
'accidentally' forget!

Ian

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On 17 Jan 2006 10:14:24 -0800, wrote:

Not content with the awful beeps and robot-voices on most LU rolling
stock, TfL are now extending this intrusion to buses (already blessed
with "DOORS OPENING", "DOORS CLOSING" messages ad infinitum on some
routes).

You mean the "next stop" announcements? Goodness, you're a grouch!

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Laurence Payne wrote:

You mean the "next stop" announcements? Goodness, you're a grouch!

The same announcement every time, not a useful next stop announcement
as should be provided.

Neil

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:50 GMT, "Richard J." wrote:

This is excellent news.

Indeed! I heard the system relies on GPS for navigation. I wonder -- Does it
have its own GPS receiver or does it integrate into the AVL system which all TfL
buses will eventually have? If the latter, then passengers will also benefit
from more evenly spaced buses and more accurate Countdown displays, which would
be nice.

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Marc Brett wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:50 GMT, "Richard J." wrote:

This is excellent news.

Indeed! I heard the system relies on GPS for navigation. I wonder -- Does it
have its own GPS receiver or does it integrate into the AVL system which all TfL
buses will eventually have? If the latter, then passengers will also benefit
from more evenly spaced buses and more accurate Countdown displays, which would
be nice.


The latter.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

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Laurence Payne wrote:
On 17 Jan 2006 10:14:24 -0800, wrote:

Not content with the awful beeps and robot-voices on most LU rolling
stock, TfL are now extending this intrusion to buses (already blessed
with "DOORS OPENING", "DOORS CLOSING" messages ad infinitum on some
routes).

You mean the "next stop" announcements? Goodness, you're a grouch!

Yeah, and all those irritating conductors getting on our nerves saying
things like, "hold very tight, please," or, "mind the stairs."

Robin

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In message , R.C. Payne
writes
Yeah, and all those irritating conductors getting on our nerves saying
things like, "hold very tight, please," or, "mind the stairs."

The conductors on the Heritage Routemaster routes are *noticeably* good
at calling out. This was a practice which had been in decline on RMs
for years and its nice to have it back!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , R.C. Payne
writes
Yeah, and all those irritating conductors getting on our nerves saying
things like, "hold very tight, please," or, "mind the stairs."

The conductors on the Heritage Routemaster routes are *noticeably* good
at calling out. This was a practice which had been in decline on RMs
for years and its nice to have it back!

Do you think part of their training involves listening to a certain song
by Flanders and Swann? As an undergraduate I was played another of
their songs in our thermodynamics lectures, and it certainly was helpful.

Robin

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In message , R.C. Payne
writes
Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , R.C. Payne
writes
Yeah, and all those irritating conductors getting on our nerves
saying things like, "hold very tight, please," or, "mind the stairs."
The conductors on the Heritage Routemaster routes are *noticeably*
good at calling out. This was a practice which had been in decline
RMs for years and its nice to have it back!

Do you think part of their training involves listening to a certain
song by Flanders and Swann?
Do you know I think about "Transport of Delight" every time I ride on
one of the Heritage routes now! :-))
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:38:50 +0000, Marc Brett
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:38:50 GMT, "Richard J." wrote:

This is excellent news.

Indeed! I heard the system relies on GPS for navigation. I wonder -- Does it
have its own GPS receiver or does it integrate into the AVL system which all TfL
buses will eventually have? If the latter, then passengers will also benefit
from more evenly spaced buses and more accurate Countdown displays, which would
be nice.

this is the relevant link from the TfL Buses website

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/ini-ibus.asp

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

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In message , at 11:10:50 on Wed, 18
Jan 2006, R.C. Payne remarked:
Yeah, and all those irritating conductors getting on our nerves saying
things like, "hold very tight, please,"

you left out the "DING DING".

or, "mind the stairs."

and those notices upstairs that always seemed to be altered to say
"Please mind your seat when leaving your head".
--
Roland Perry

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Roland Perry wrote:

and those notices upstairs that always seemed to be altered to say
"Please mind your seat when leaving your head".

"Fleas in your head" was the Merseyrail one... :)

Neil

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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:48:54 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote in :

this is the relevant link from the TfL Buses website

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/ini-ibus.asp

Somebody should have proof-read it!

"The new service control workstations being provided to 90 garages
throughout London will provide comprehensive displays and tables of bus
location and performance than the current system."

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

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wrote:

Not content with the awful beeps and robot-voices on most LU rolling
stock, TfL are now extending this intrusion to buses (already blessed
with "DOORS OPENING", "DOORS CLOSING" messages ad infinitum on some
routes).

Well I'm glad they're now actually saying "DOORS CLOSING" rather than
that infernal BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP that
they previously tried installing. The question now is: how do we get
London Underground and the other TOCs to follow suit?

--
Aidan Stanger
http://www.bettercrossrail.co.uk

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On 22 Jan 2006 06:47:04 -0800, wrote:

then reminding us to take our
belongings with us when leaving the train on the approach to every
station. Do we really need reminding at nearly every single station?

"....please keep all your belongings with you...."

I try. I really do. But the sideboard and sofa are still on Ilford
platform, the doors shut as I was finding a space for the piano...

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In message , Laurence Payne
writes
On 22 Jan 2006 06:47:04 -0800, wrote:

then reminding us to take our
belongings with us when leaving the train on the approach to every
station. Do we really need reminding at nearly every single station?

"....please keep all your belongings with you...."

I try. I really do. But the sideboard and sofa are still on Ilford
platform, the doors shut as I was finding a space for the piano...

The front end of a Ford Escort was left on a District Line train in the
eighties, I was once told on a visit to the Lost Property Office in
Baker Street.......

--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, Ian Jelf wrote:

In message , Laurence Payne
writes
On 22 Jan 2006 06:47:04 -0800, wrote:

then reminding us to take our belongings with us when leaving the
train on the approach to every station. Do we really need reminding at
nearly every single station?

"....please keep all your belongings with you...."

I try. I really do. But the sideboard and sofa are still on Ilford
platform, the doors shut as I was finding a space for the piano...

The front end of a Ford Escort was left on a District Line train in the
eighties, I was once told on a visit to the Lost Property Office in
Baker Street.......

Aah, is *that* where i left it. Do they still have it, do you know?

tom

--
""when i go to sleep, i dream "Wow. What a cool period of ulness."" --
TWIC, ox.clubs.ousfg -- William, ox.clubs.ousfg